Chasing a dream

Wait, let's back up. Overflow system or degas? Have you tested the cap?

Yes? Lol. I think it's a Degas. It's a closed loop system, no radiator cap. I won't pretend that I understand exactly how it works.
I’d say I would donate my extra IR gun to the cause but some dipshit left it in the engine bay and went for a test drive :dumbass:

No worries, I ordered one along with thew thermostats!
 
I do have another issue. When my lights are on, I don't have any drivers side turn signals when the camper is hooked up. When the camper is unplugged the turn signals work, when the running lights are off, they all work even with the camper plugged in. If I turn the headlights on, the left signal does not work on the truck or camper. Unplug the camper and it's fine, or if I turn the lights off.

Any advice on where to begin to trouble shoot this?
 
Sounds like the camper plug is wired wrong. Probably wires swapped for left signal and taillights.
 
Sounds like the camper plug is wired wrong. Probably wires swapped for left signal and taillights.
Or a ground issue. Just got done spending all damn day chasing an erratic blinker/driving light issue on my trailer. The problem is it’s all aluminum but it all came down to one little stupid ground wire.
 
It's a closed loop system, no radiator cap. I won't pretend that I understand exactly how it works.
Have you changed the coolant? Have you tried a new cap? Is the computer capable of doing a cylinder contribution test? If the temp gun confirms it's actually getting hot, all the injectors are working equally well, and you've got fresh, properly mixed coolant and a working cap that holds pressure, then look at the water pump.
 
Have you changed the coolant? Have you tried a new cap? Is the computer capable of doing a cylinder contribution test? If the temp gun confirms it's actually getting hot, all the injectors are working equally well, and you've got fresh, properly mixed coolant and a working cap that holds pressure, then look at the water pump.

In the Duramax world, you can look at balance rates. It tells you what they're doing at idle. To do this it needs to be at 170+ degrees coolant temp AND you have to know the fuel rate. Stock "should" be 8mm³. Sometimes, when tuned and especially with larger injectors, they're around 9mm³. Whatever balance rates displayed are a difference from the fuel rate. The tolerances are +/- 4 in park or neutral and +/- 6 in gear.

If a cylinder's balance rate is high (+) then it's flowing less. A low balance rate (-) shows that it is dialing back fuel which may indicate too much fuel and would be indicative of a leaking nozzle. There's also the issue of ball and seat wear on the return side of things leading to low rail pressure and/or possible hard starting. Especially warm starts.

Aside from that, you can kill individual cylinders with a scanner to see if it changes anything. Really, unless there are hard starting issues, white smoke at idle, or fuel in the oil (and low oil pressure, even at higher RPM) an LB7 is usually good to go.

I keep actual rail pressure, desired rail pressure, and coolant temp on the main screen of my CTS2 monitor. Along with separate boost and EGT gauges, they keep me in the know if anything is going wrong.


@77GreenMachine How fast were you headed up the mountain when it was getting hot? Sometimes slowing down or downshifting is the answer, as much as it sucks. Higher RPM will lower EGTs and usually coolant temps, but will raise oil temps. Lower RPM, high boost/engine load, and "lugging it" will raise EGT. It's basically the same at as your old 6.0 and the 8.1...let it eat! Spinning it up won't hurt it :D

Oh! Is the fill point the highest point in the coolant system? I know on my truck's highest point in the coolant system is actually the upper coolant hose to the turbo. When I drain the cooling system, I fill it up, bleed it at the thermostat housing, and then pull the upper turbo coolant hose off to get the last bit of air out of it.

TBH, it sounds like a water pump definitely wouldn't hurt. Although, they're a cast iron impeller and don't usually present any flow issues. 🤔

@shawn I'd call it a degas, if it's setup like the pickups. No cap on the radiator, but a separate bottle where you fill it that acts as a reservoir and overflow with a cap that's rated to somewhere around 15 PSI.
 
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Good post. I'm trying to think of other things that might be causing it to overheat... but suspicious that it's not actually getting that hot. Coolant fill/pressure/bleed is the most likely problem IMHO. I doubt the water pump is the issue. Sort of a long shot there.
 
Something from when I worked on the Duramax years ago, on top of the thermostat housing is a hex head bolt, this bleeds air from the housing while filling system, it is over looked often and can cause an air pocket in tstat housing and other weirdness.
 
Is it turned up?

It does have EFI Live, just a 40HP tow tune, done by Pure Diesel. This was an issue before then however. It doesn’t smoke at all, and my EGTs stay below 1150°.

Here’s why I suspect one of the thermostats aren’t operating. It is just like the pickup trucks as @Croatan_Kid described. The tank line runs to the thermostats, which is where the outlet for the heater core goes. Back when I did add coolant to it that one time, I put green antifreeze in it cause I was about to leave and didn’t realize that I shouldn’t have mixed it. It was only about a half a gallon. That was literally last year, and then when I was in GA around the first of March I put that fan clutch on that Jake sent me, when I did that I broke the quick disconnect on the heater core hose causing a leak. When I had it off to fix it, I noticed green coolant running out, as if it never really made it into the system and mixed?

Either way, I have new thermostats and Dex-Cool being shipped to SMORR and hope to address that there.

Also, it could be the simple fact that I’m carrying more weight than this truck can haul? I see many others with these trucks claiming they tow just as much and more though.
 
All of today's antifreeze variants should mix. Once I drained mine the first time, I filled it with green stuff though.

It certainly can't hurt to put some thermostats in it. These things are kinda picky about them for some reason. The only ones I've ever had work reliably and last are the somewhat pricey AC Delco ones or MotoRad. They'll usually hang open when they fail and not let it warm up, but who knows? The cooling systems on these things follows an interesting path anyway. Might as well throw a new cap on the fill bottle if you haven't.

I'd assume the heater core isn't plugged up or your wife would have probably made you fix that already. I like heat also 😅 I guess you're also supposed to keep children warm or whatever...

I also wouldn't think there would be any issues with coolant flow through the oil cooler. They usually don't give any issues unless they fail completely or leak externally.
 
Yep...I'd figure that'll do it!

At least, maybe and hopefully, that'll solve it.
 
I just don’t understand why it’s not low on coolant.
 
Why's the sky blue? Why are boobs good? How's the posi-trac in the rear end of a Plymouth work?!

It just does!
 
Mmmmm boobs.

On another note. Radiator. T-stat, and a system flush looks in order. A vacuum assisted refill would be awesome.
Heck given time I'd throw a water pump at it if your is high mileage.


I'm with the other dude, slow leaky no mean high temps unless you just don't have fluid. To loose the pressure your worried about would require a visible squirt.....and besides pressure changes the boiling point not the temperature.
 
Well for now it’s going to get topped off with water and push on. Idk when or where I’ll be able to put a radiator in it. I suppose I should hit that bleeder thing on the Stat housing and make sure it’s 100% full.
 
Well for now it’s going to get topped off with water and push on. Idk when or where I’ll be able to put a radiator in it. I suppose I should hit that bleeder thing on the Stat housing and make sure it’s 100% full.

There is a guy around Lincolnton that can repair it and pretty inexpensive
 
Well for now it’s going to get topped off with water and push on. Idk when or where I’ll be able to put a radiator in it. I suppose I should hit that bleeder thing on the Stat housing and make sure it’s 100% full.

If it's like my truck, the top coolant hose to the turbo is higher than the bleeder screw and always traps air. I do the bleeder first and get the last little burp of air out by unhooking that hose.
 
Made it to Clayton, OK. Most of the way with the heat on and windows down :(

It was a super stressful drive. The campground owner said I could change a radiator here but I can’t get one here without expediting it and it costing my a small fortune but I may go that route.

My laser thermometer thing confirmed the coolant temp is accurate. I have 185-190° on the thermostat housing. Radiator hoses say 175°, edge says 188°.

It only leaks when I first start it up and it’s warming up. I arrived at the campground today, and at my fuel stop earlier and didn’t see any signs of a coolant leak in the corner.

However cruising today at 60-65mph, EGTs between 875°-1050° it would creep above 210°. Hit a light grade and it would get to 225° and I’d have to turn the heat on. The truck isn’t working that hard, but I am driving into a head wind and that sucks.
Coast down a hill and it will go back to 195° and stay there for a while until I get back to even the slightest grade.

I have the low temp thermostats with me and debated changing them out but I’m not sure that’s going to help.
 
What’s your transmission temps? How’s that fluid? Is your trans cooler integrated into the radiator? On my pusher, the trans was getting warm and causing inefficiency in cooling the engine and with long grade climbs, the temps were getting to a point where I had to pull over a couple times to let it cool down.
 
What’s your transmission temps? How’s that fluid? Is your trans cooler integrated into the radiator? On my pusher, the trans was getting warm and causing inefficiency in cooling the engine and with long grade climbs, the temps were getting to a point where I had to pull over a couple times to let it cool down.

Trans got to 174° for just a bit. It usually hanks out around 155°-165°. I’m not against removing it from the radiator but also not convinced it’s an issue. I’m to the point of just throwing a radiator, water pump, thermostats and new cap at it. Just gotta get the parts, place and time.
 
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