Creating a title

92yotaman

92yotaman

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Ok so I am planning on buying a Willys Cj, I want something less than $500 or so. The problem I am running into is that most of the ones I have found don't have a title. This is going to be a trail rig but I would like to be able to drive on the road. Any one had a title created before? What about a kit-car title? any ideas? everyone I have talked to says its not worth the hassle
 
im trying to find out the same thing. i bought a truck with no title and would like to get one. from what I understand so far you have to apply for one with the dmv and assuming that there are no leins and it has not been reported stolen and does not for a certain amount of time then you get one. but im not sure really
 
I am in the same boat and my understanding is that you have to trace it back because until you get a title the vehicle is "technically" not yours....I have spoken to the DMV office in Raleigh and of course the undereducated idiot had no idea how to answer my questions or who to direct me too...She told me to track down the previous owner, which luckily is a friend of mine, but it has not been convenient for him to get the title when we have talked......
 
Would a notarized Bill of Sale from the titled owner not work? There are some other forms that would need to be filled out to go along with the BOS but I think that would be the route to take. Of course, this is assuming that the current owners are the title holders.
 
yota4me said:
. from what I understand so far you have to apply for one with the dmv and assuming that there are no leins and it has not been reported stolen and does not for a certain amount of time then you get one. but im not sure really
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this is also what I have heard, but you have to put down some money as a Bond on it. they then hold the money for a period of time and if no one claims the vehicle as theres then they will give you a title..

that is what I have heard.. but I have no proof of this.
 
Yes, there is a process. I researched it ~10 years ago. It can be found on the dmv website. The bond is an indemnity bond. You'll need a serial number on the frame and they must inspect the serial number before re-assembly (if I remember correctly).

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I have a good friend that is trying to go about all of this currently, and will post up his dealings when he has done it...

and he had a title for his, but apparently in NC's attempt to get rid of 35+ yr old vehicles, anything brought into NC that is titled elsewhere will be inspected for the serial numbers on the body and frame... his 36 chevy didnt have them easily available, so the DMV shreaded his GA title, and told him that he needed to get a bonded title for it...
 
I know I'm probably going to get creamed for telling this but it's a truth. As for older vehicles, it's easier to just find a parts vehicle that's similar and use the title. Although that can be tuff to find as well if you don't know how to look. But unless you're doing something stupid, there's no reason for a official to crawl under a vehicle to trace the vin from the frame. And that's a pretty tuff task in itself even if you know where to look. Most older vehicles have 1/2" of grease to scrape and then it's still close to impossible to fully desipher. They are usually like finding needles in a haystack since they are usually out of eyes reach.
I restore pre-72 Ford trucks and the vin was rivoted on the inside of the door on a engraved strip of metal. This ain't counting the sticker on the door jam for they are usually faded beyond recognition and even peel off in the heat (aka heat gun:flipoff2:). If you swap doors, you have a different vin basically unless you have the old metal identification strip. So it's easy to just say you swapped doors if ever asked. My best trucks were given to me to just get out of a yard for someone and didn't come with a title. And it's always been out of the way for someone who's giving me a vehicle to go to DMV to trace a title. I always ask but...
Since I have gotten my name out locally for many years with other guys that restore the same, I found connections for empty titles. And I've now sold 3 trucks in the 67-72 range with different titles and never been asked a question. It's been a couple years since my last sell.
But what I'm saying is that if you have your mind set on a certain vehicle, I guarantee you if you get involved with clubs/groups of the same, you'll run across titles if you inquire. And the responses will come from crazy directions usually by private message due to liabilities of selling just a title. Ebay forbids selling just a title? And I really don't know the legalities of selling just titles even though I feel a firm response is about to be gotten!:flipoff2: But I know not just anyone is going to give/sell a title to someone they don't know so it's good to be an active member and participate with events and such to get to know folk. It's probably considered a black market item...

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Im looking to do the same thing with a motorcycle that I am building, I was told that the motorcycle had to be together and running BEFORE you can issue a bond against it and take it to have it inspected by the DMV to make sure the #s match.
 
Ok so it sounds like it really would be a HUGE hassle to have one created, I realize there are certain loop holes to get around the issue but honestly I have really bad luck with law enforcement figures so I don't really want to take any risks. It just sucks because it's really hard to find a title on a truck this old. Any more advise is greatly appreciated!
 
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