For folks that like dumpster fires

jeepinmatt said:
Linky no worky, but they did post this:
"Sinister diesel apologizes to any customers or diesel enthusiast that we may have offended. To clarify, anyone can use the color blue anywhere on their personal truck, gas or diesel. However a company cannot manufacture aftermarket diesel parts and sell them with a blue finish, unless they have reached an agreement with Sinister Diesel. We have already granted a few companies permission to continue to use blue on their products.
We have been working on our trademark for over a year and during the process it was up for public opposition for 30 days. As of November 20 we received the official approval from the federal trademark office to trademark the use of blue in commerce in the diesel Industry.

This trademark was meant to slow or stop the influx of Chinese copies and knock offs that have been affecting our brand, so much so, that people continually associate our products with those made in China. While we do purchase some pieces (less than 15% and decreasing regularly) with the exception of some of our exhaust kits, we have zero completed parts or any part finished in blue, imported from China.

We are proudly an American manufacturing company and will continue that tradition for years to come. Sinister employees over 50 people in our California facility and are looking for more people to join our team.

We appreciate your time and understanding over this sensitive issue. We look forward to working with you in the future.

Signed
Sinister Management"
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Saw this posted from the Instagram page too. I have seen the paperwork, and I know where they’re coming from. However, I still don’t see blanket coverage of blue standing...their specific blue, sure, but not claiming the rights to entire spectrum of blue.
 
Saw @UTfball68 posted in a dumpster fire thread and assumed it was about Vol Football. I’m @dissapoint.
 
I found this troll job humorous...

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1-tonmudder said:
I gotta question the legitimacy of all this.
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Well it’s an April Fool’s joke...soooo. I’m sure he has someone on his payroll that runs it for him...if you’re questioning if the man himself posted it, but that is the legit Gale Banks profile. Jon Kaase rarely posts his own content too...as do most ‘celebrities’.
 
UTfball68 said:
Well it’s a joke...soooo.
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And I took it as such.Esp given the date it was posted but Im sure somebody somewhere is passing it off as the truth.
 
1-tonmudder said:
And I took it as such.Esp given the date it was posted but Im sure somebody somewhere is passing it off as the truth.
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You have to question reality these days...she started off that way too

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Richard Petty is the owner of “Petty Blue” and only his shop can legally spray this color without permission. I was given this info first hand while at their shop. I would love to be a fly on the wall for Sinister Diesel to show up and say that they could no longer spray Petty Blue.
 
Buffy said:
Richard Petty is the owner of “Petty Blue” and only his shop can legally spray this color without permission. I was given this info first hand while at their shop. I would love to be a fly on the wall for Sinister Diesel to show up and say that they could no longer spray Petty Blue.
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Nope, what they have would be, at best, a trademark, not a copyright or patent or anything that broad and tight. Which means that, at most, it is limited to their exact industry. All Sinister has to do is point out that Petty doesn't specialize in aftermarket diesel performance parts.
 
mommucked said:
.........I did not not know you could patent/trademark a color, and cannot believe it is legal to do that.
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Actually, you can - but it has to be VERY specific. You can't just say "blue". It has to be a specific Pantone color affiliated with your brand, etc. John Deere green, Kubota orange, Ford blue - for example. If you start a tractor company and start painting them John Deere green, even without a logo on them, you will be staring at a cease and desist order from JD's lawyers. Pick any other shade of green and you will probably be fine, but that particular shade and it's on. As part of their trademark application, the specific Pantone Color Match code must be entered into the system to ensure that nobody infringes on it.
 
ManglerYJ said:
Actually, you can - but it has to be VERY specific. You can't just say "blue". It has to be a specific Pantone color affiliated with your brand, etc. John Deere green, Kubota orange, Ford blue - for example. If you start a tractor company and start painting them John Deere green, even without a logo on them, you will be staring at a cease and desist order from JD's lawyers. Pick any other shade of green and you will probably be fine, but that particular shade and it's on. As part of their trademark application, the specific Pantone Color Match code must be entered into the system to ensure that nobody infringes on it.
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And, again, it is very specific to the industry. You could paint John Deer Green on an offroad vehicle all day long, or even heavy equipment like a dozer, before JD will have a legitimate case against you. It would have to specifically be a tractor and small scale farm implements before they would be able to claim any infringement on trademarks.
This becomes kind of difficult when a company slowly broadens their scope to take in more and wider industries, sometimes they brush up against another brand that is already in their "new" space, and they would now be the infringer. Then the solution is to spin off a new sub-brand wit ha different logo or primary color etc.
Otherwise, coca cola and Target would have had it out long ago, and we'd now live in a very bland colored world b/c all of the colors would be owned by somebody and nothing new could be anything but shades of grey...

Also, you can not patent a color, only it's use within or attached to a specific device. Patents and trademarks are very different.
A patent is there to protect your intellectual property and keep others from benefiting from the same design, capitalizing on your idea.
A trademark is intended to protect the image of the brand, and avoid confusion from buyers - "I bought this Chinese POS tractor that was green and yellow because I thought it was a Deere"
 
RatLabGuy said:
And, again, it is very specific to the industry. You could paint John Deer Green on an offroad vehicle all day long, or even heavy equipment like a dozer, before JD will have a legitimate case against you. It would have to specifically be a tractor and small scale farm implements before they would be able to claim any infringement on trademarks.
This becomes kind of difficult when a company slowly broadens their scope to take in more and wider industries, sometimes they brush up against another brand that is already in their "new" space, and they would now be the infringer. Then the solution is to spin off a new sub-brand wit ha different logo or primary color etc.
Otherwise, coca cola and Target would have had it out long ago, and we'd now live in a very bland colored world b/c all of the colors would be owned by somebody and nothing new could be anything but shades of grey...

Also, you can not patent a color, only it's use within or attached to a specific device. Patents and trademarks are very different.
A patent is there to protect your intellectual property and keep others from benefiting from the same design, capitalizing on your idea.
A trademark is intended to protect the image of the brand, and avoid confusion from buyers - "I bought this Chinese POS tractor that was green and yellow because I thought it was a Deere"
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Funny that you would bring up Coca Cola, since they actually do have a color registered with the US Patent and Trademark office. It is Pantone 484 - "Coke Red". When I worked for Budco Creative Services in Detroit, we used to print stuff for the Big Three, auto suppliers and Hiram Walker Brands. We had to get special authorization from Coca Cola to use the Coca Cola logo, and PMS color in a recipe card for one of their products that they were mixing with Coke. Big pain in the ass for something that never even came about.

But you are right, it's a trademark, not a patent.
 
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