free roll cage material

if this front 44 don't make it up at least couple reds before breaking...screw it and buying a 60
 
marty79 said:
sir you sure talk a lot of trash about stuff you don't know. you obviously can't hack a 110v welder (i can weld 1/2"steel with it and HOLD...
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martyjohn,

I made this offer to you before. Take your 110 welder, and 2 pieces of 1/4, 1/2, whatever scrap you got. Bevel it or not, clean it or not, and weld them up (butt). Mail them to me -- or probably some others will volunteer too -- we'll do a bend test. PM me for my mailing address.

Put up or shut up time.

DP
 
trailhugger said:
Speak for yourself, but I hope to God Almighty that any of your past or future "customers" know that your attitude is "close enough for now." My emphasis added to the above.
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i get you and can't stress enough guys that the way I work on customers vehicles is probably not even close to how i work on mine. that's as simple as i can put it. As hard as it might be for you to believe, I care very very much about people's safety and well being and safety is #1 when it comes to their vehicles so all bashing/jokes aside, I take my work on customers vehicles very seriously and make sure it's done 110% safe.
My jeep.....nah, i just do what i know will work and call it a day...
 
kaiser715 said:
martyjohn,

I made this offer to you before. Take your 110 welder, and 2 pieces of 1/4, 1/2, whatever scrap you got. Bevel it or not, clean it or not, and weld them up (butt). Mail them to me -- or probably some others will volunteer too -- we'll do a bend test. PM me for my mailing address.

Put up or shut up time.

DP
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its already been posted and when i get that bigger wire, i will be happy to...still won't prove that i can't weld everyday normal use DD vehicle applications for normal wear and tear but like i told the other guy, you can have your field day with it I'm sure
 
Have you ever thought that your vehicle is an image of your work? If I showed up to.have any kind of work done on something and the shop had a personal vehicle sitting there and I looked at it and they said it has a change and ehhhh its good enough I would probably turn around and walk away. People that don't know you will judge you for what they see, just like people on here. Would you go to the dentist to get work done on your teeth if the dentist was missing half his teeth and the others were rotting away?
 
Loganwayne said:
Have you ever thought that your vehicle is an image of your work? If I showed up to.have any kind of work done on something and the shop had a personal vehicle sitting there and I looked at it and they said it has a change and ehhhh its good enough I would probably turn around and walk away. People that don't know you will judge you for what they see, just like people on here. Would you go to the dentist to get work done on your teeth if the dentist was missing half his teeth and the others were rotting away?
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bout time someone brought this up: you won't believe me but I'll say it anyways
EVERYONE that has seen my jeep New and Old Customers has commented on how awesome and cool and beastly of a jeep it is. Sure we both laugh at a few things but honest to God, everyone loves the jeep WHY? cause the fact that i have a bad ass toy to play with, to trailer to a park and beat it all i want, roll it, pound it, brake it and not care. Not one person has ever told me my jeep is ghetto, not one.
Only you and people on here say this stuff because ????i guess you're naturally comparing my jeep/build to yours and others' that you have seen done more professional looking so you automatically have a comparison to go by but normal people who either have a DD Jeep or just normal people that come by with other vehicles think it's pretty awesome. again honest as i can be, all the comments on my control arms (my current ones in the pics on earlier pages) have been all good comments and how beefy and strong they look.
Lastly, I guess I'm not like you and others on here. If I went to a shop, and their personal/shop vehicle(s) looked anything like mine, my first thought would be a project, a beater, a toy, a buggy, a fun toy/fun car/truck whatever....i wouldn't judge their work until i saw what was going on inside the shop: cleanliness of the shop, organization of the shop, language in the shop, attitude of owner/operator and employees, music type and posters in the shop...these are the top of the list of what i would look for in a business to "judge" them on....not some stupid toy/project that might be sitting in their yard collecting dust.
Loganwayne said:
if the dentist was missing half his teeth and the others were rotting away?
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nope...i would've felt bad for the guy thinking he didn't take care of his teeth growing up due to either neglect or finances or both and he chose that career path to maybe bless others with that affordable service trying to make a difference. But that's just me, I try to see the best in people which usually hurts me in the end but it's what I do my best to do.
 
marty79 said:
its already been posted and when i get that bigger wire, i will be happy to...still won't prove that i can't weld everyday normal use DD vehicle applications for normal wear and tear but like i told the other guy, you can have your field day with it I'm sure
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If you can do it with .35, you surely can do it with .30
I call your bullshit.
 
Jeff B said:
If you can do it with .35, you surely can do it with .30
I call your bullshit.
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i honestly didn't think it was that big a difference until i started with the .30 and "for me" i can tell more of a difference than expected...especially for the thicker stuff. On highest heat setting, .30 does not burn the 1/4 like i was used to with the other wire. i love it for thinner stuff but the thicker, i had to actually fiddle a little with settings
 
marty79 said:
fine but you gotta wait till i burn up this big role of .30 i just put in week ago cause i ain't cutting it to waste that wire but when i run out i will buy one small roll of .35 and be happy to weld your little 1/2"plates. I'm not sure what kind of testing you do (i think i remember you have machinery that does it) but I'm sure you will find a way to make a fool out of me but I can only speak for myself and several customers who have been very happy and successful with my work..including welding. Having this said, remember too welding a 1/2"plate for trailer hitch doesn't say much since trailer hitch doesn't have nothing of load on it compared to say a roll over down some crazy trail so i never claimed to weld thick steel for roll over crazy stuff but i merely stating that it's very doable with single pass too to hold up for your average DD, trailer hitch, some bracketry for normal use. any other uses than this and no, i take my stuff to a shop with 220 for peace of mind.
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I don't care what you weld it it with. I'm sending you pre beveled 3/8 plate with 1/4 backing.

Heck, I'll send two so you can do one flat and one vertical.

Regular run of the mill aws pre-qualification test.

I'll even tack them all up, so all u have to is read the instructions, weld them, let them cool and ship them back.

I'm serious, still waiting on pm.

I've got the plates and the flat rate box ready to ride.

I don't care if you take them to someone else, and use their fancy welder. Use whatever you have to make the best weld you can, that you would typically do for yourself or a customer on a regular basis.
 
Falko said:
It's been a while since I've been broke, but I don't think I've ever been "Can't waste eight feet of flux core wire" broke
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welcome to my world...not broke world but my world of I'm very very frugal and very very conservative...if you can't tell from my roll cage LMFAO
 
marty79 said:
bout time someone brought this up: you won't believe me but I'll say it anyways
EVERYONE that has seen my jeep New and Old Customers has commented on how awesome and cool and beastly of a jeep it is. Sure we both laugh at a few things but honest to God, everyone loves the jeep WHY? cause the fact that i have a bad ass toy to play with, to trailer to a park and beat it all i want, roll it, pound it, brake it and not care. Not one person has ever told me my jeep is ghetto, not one.
Only you and people on here say this stuff because ????i guess you're naturally comparing my jeep/build to yours and others' that you have seen done more professional looking so you automatically have a comparison to go by but normal people who either have a DD Jeep or just normal people that come by with other vehicles think it's pretty awesome. again honest as i can be, all the comments on my control arms (my current ones in the pics on earlier pages) have been all good comments and how beefy and strong they look.
Lastly, I guess I'm not like you and others on here. If I went to a shop, and their personal/shop vehicle(s) looked anything like mine, my first thought would be a project, a beater, a toy, a buggy, a fun toy/fun car/truck whatever....i wouldn't judge their work until i saw what was going on inside the shop: cleanliness of the shop, organization of the shop, language in the shop, attitude of owner/operator and employees, music type and posters in the shop...these are the top of the list of what i would look for in a business to "judge" them on....not some stupid toy/project that might be sitting in their yard collecting dust.

nope...i would've felt bad for the guy thinking he didn't take care of his teeth growing up due to either neglect or finances or both and he chose that career path to maybe bless others with that affordable service trying to make a difference. But that's just me, I try to see the best in people which usually hurts me in the end but it's what I do my best to do.
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First off Jack ass ive never called your jeep ghetto. I have tryed to find weak spots in your "cage" never said I wouldn't build it or your stupid for doing so. Hell I came and helped you get your tire back on the bead at the flats. Second off my jeep hasn't even been in anyone's shop to have any work done, besides my axles going threw. Every part on my jeep beside bumpers were bought used. I lay in my driveway to work on it. It's taken me 5 years to get my jeep to where it is but it's all been done my myself. You talk alot of shit about people you don't know just like everyone else on here, excpet when someone calls you on your bull shit you blow up and cuss everyone.
 
Loganwayne said:
excpet when someone calls you on your bull shit you blow up and cuss everyone.
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don't have a cow dude...and I DIDN'T CUSS anyone. If you took that paragraph personally, don't cause that was me speaking in general to how i felt to your statement but was not directed to you only but merely to anyone/everyone....and you and everyone quit saying i "CUSS" yall out...what the hell
 
marty79 said:
i honestly didn't think it was that big a difference until i started with the .30 and "for me" i can tell more of a difference than expected...especially for the thicker stuff. On highest heat setting, .30 does not burn the 1/4 like i was used to with the other wire. i love it for thinner stuff but the thicker, i had to actually fiddle a little with settings
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I think you lie. I believe I am not the only one who thinks this.
 
Loganwayne seriously dude don't get so offensive bro...I actually remember you and from what i remember you're an alright dude but I think you forget some of the remarks you make/have made to follow others' funny bashing have not been all that nice/great/positive so if you're gonna "side with them" than stick with them....but if you are trying to say my jeep ain't half as bad as "they" make it out to be (as your last comment rant seems you are) than stick with that...no middle ground bro
 
Falko said:
It's been a while since I've been broke, but I don't think I've ever been "Can't waste eight feet of flux core wire" broke
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dunno bout you guys, but when I need to change wire diameter, I just clip the melt tip off the end, unscrew/flip the tensioner and wind that baby back up on the reel. load another roll. done. the only waste that Ive ever had is whats left that can't be 'pushed'.
but I live in the collective 'real world', so maybe thats the root issue.
 
Let me put it this way...
There are 2 maybe 3 people on this forum that commit often that are fab shops that focus on 4x4 stuff. Maybe a dozen or two that do fab work on the side or in other fields. Couple dozen enginners, 4-5 dozen machinist, couple dozen professional welders, couple hundred mechanics, and a couple architects that like to shake shit up. Plus all the other people that have all different kinds of jobs.
I'd say 95% or more of the people on here do most to all the work on their rigs on there own.
Your just the village idiot that thinks he's got it figured out way better than some odd thousand people that are members here.
 
marty79 said:
bout time someone brought this up: you won't believe me but I'll say it anyways
EVERYONE that has seen my jeep New and Old Customers has commented on how awesome and cool and beastly of a jeep it is. Sure we both laugh at a few things but honest to God, everyone loves the jeep WHY? cause the fact that i have a bad ass toy to play with, to trailer to a park and beat it all i want, roll it, pound it, brake it and not care. Not one person has ever told me my jeep is ghetto, not one.
Only you and people on here say this stuff because ????i guess you're naturally comparing my jeep/build to yours and others' that you have seen done more professional looking so you automatically have a comparison to go by but normal people who either have a DD Jeep or just normal people that come by with other vehicles think it's pretty awesome. again honest as i can be, all the comments on my control arms (my current ones in the pics on earlier pages) have been all good comments and how beefy and strong they look.
Lastly, I guess I'm not like you and others on here. If I went to a shop, and their personal/shop vehicle(s) looked anything like mine, my first thought would be a project, a beater, a toy, a buggy, a fun toy/fun car/truck whatever....i wouldn't judge their work until i saw what was going on inside the shop: cleanliness of the shop, organization of the shop, language in the shop, attitude of owner/operator and employees, music type and posters in the shop...these are the top of the list of what i would look for in a business to "judge" them on....not some stupid toy/project that might be sitting in their yard collecting dust.
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@Loganwayne show me where I cussed you out man cause that something I'm sick of people lying about me saying I'm always telling people to FU and FO and cussing them out one minute then christianizing the next....that does piss me off more than anything cause that's a huge pile of BS.
YES I ADMIT i have sinned and cussed people out before in heated arguments when i was put on that spot/put in that situation and it wasn't right that I did but for those making it out to seem like that's my normal vocabulary and persona...please stop. You can make fun and bash but making me out to be some cursing bully or rude hateful person who just quickly cusses anyone and everyone is far from truth and who I am. Thank You
 
Chuckman said:
dunno bout you guys, but when I need to change wire diameter, I just clip the melt tip off the end, unscrew/flip the tensioner and wind that baby back up on the reel. load another roll. done. the only waste that Ive ever had is whats left that can't be 'pushed'.
but I live in the collective 'real world', so maybe thats the root issue.
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don't know why i never thought of this....thank you very much, seriously.
 
Loganwayne said:
Your just the village idiot that thinks he's got it figured out way better than some odd thousand people that are members here.
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village idiot??? ok maybe so.
but the "i'm better than everyone else"???? this is where problems start. I never said that and WOULD NEVER SAY THAT, cause I'm no better than anyone as a matter of fact I don't give myself enough credit since being bashed around so much but i work on it and try to be as positive as i can. where you and others get this thought from is beyond me but i can tell you I HAVE NEVER THOUGHT TO BE BETTER THAN ANYONE ELSE
 
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Chuckman said:
dunno bout you guys, but when I need to change wire diameter, I just clip the melt tip off the end, unscrew/flip the tensioner and wind that baby back up on the reel. load another roll. done. the only waste that Ive ever had is whats left that can't be 'pushed'.
but I live in the collective 'real world', so maybe thats the root issue.
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While I realize that this is possible, I don't do it because I don't have to.

I just ordered a beer that cost 419 feet of .030 flux core

*Rick Ross voice* Baaaaallllliiiiiinnnnn

Side note: feet of flux core is my new preferred standard currency
 
StretchASU said:
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HOLY CRAP
 
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