Jesus would'nt approve

1-tonmudder

1-tonmudder

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We went to Zaxby's for lunch today,place was packed,had to wait about 25 mins for our food.They called our # and while I was up there they refunded my money for the wait. OK cool. Sat back down and started to eat when this lil Messican kid starts running around.They had a wooden truck nailed to the wall that got his atten and he proceded to throw a screamin fit wantin it.Went on for at least 10 mins,blood curdling screams,jumping up and down and all.Momma would walk over and motion for him to come back and sit down which just made it worse.The kid was about two tables away from us and about three feet from the end of a table full of people.Super awkward situation.People were getting up and takin their food w em.After about 10 mins of screams and cryin and not bein able to carry on conversation w Tonya I had had enuf and said something,VERY LOUDLY, to the woman about the kid.You could have heard a pin drop in the place,even the people working in the back were looking.

So momma gathers up the kid and they leave,I got up to refill my drink and when I come back some dude is rakin the guy behind me over the coals cause he thought he was the one who said something.I told dude that it was me and not the other guy and he started tellin me I handled it wrong and that Jesus would not approve of the way I handled it.Dude was young and clearly didn't have any kids,I just couldn't believe he was usin the Jesus card on me.I guess he never heard "spare the rod spoil the child".So at what point do u say something or do you just sit there and bite your tougue??
 
Idk that's a hard situation. I never know how to handle someone else's kids. Even close friends. People freak out of someone else calls their kid down. Props for you for doing what everyone else was thinking!
As for Jesus, as one who studies His life and teachings and tries my best to follow them, I'd say he would have firmly told the woman to correct her kid and have him act like a respectful human being. The bible in multiple places is very clear about child correction.


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To be clear I never spoke to the kid,just the mom.The kid cant help the parent didn't/haven't/ or wont discipline hm.Its human nature to keep pushing your limit.
 
So what was actually said?

For arguments sake, cause I'm sure someone will bring it up. It is possible that the kid had a behavioral problem. While that may have been the case, it is still the parents job to control the kid. After a couple minutes, she should have taken him outside so he could work out his issue and she calm him down.

And by calm down I mean beat the snot out of....


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I told her she needed to do something about him,take him outside,or somewhere to let him calm down and that he had ruined my and everybody else's lunch with his screamin fit.Her excuse was "hes just a baby".He was probably 5/6 years old,old enuf to be disciplined.I told dude that was his opinion and he was entitled to it but I didn't care.
 
I don't think you were out of line by any means.


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Jesus doesn't like nosey little bitches but here you are... or something worse would have come out of my mouth implying his future ability to discuss the topic with Jesus getting sooner than later if he didn't mind his own business.

I'm a fucking dick though and wouldn't have waited 10 minutes to say something. My father would have wore me out backwards as a kid for that kind of behavior. We live in the day of pussified parents wanting to be friends. That dumb bitch probably apologized for the "mean man" in the restaurant.

Hate people like that and got no problem hurting feelings.

Had an incident a while back where some kid, 12-13 probably kept throwing snowballs at the girl I was with. No parents in sight, we are on a patio at a bar/restaurant at 10 pm around a firepit. After the 2nd Snowball I grabbed the little prick by his jacket, walked in the building and asked where the little assholes parents were... Man come over and kinda apologized, said its his wifes kid and she doesn't discipline him so he just runs wild. She didn't have the balls to come collect her rotten as son. Little fucker just wanted attention, mom was clearly a drunk and step father a nancy. He should have been home in bed not outside a damn bar at 10 pm.

I've had people tell me I was out of line for doing it, but I've gotten a lot more praise from other patrons out and about.

I understand a baby crying, even a real little kid. In most situations I do expect the parents to get up and go outside etc... to deal with it. If I am at chucky cheese or a kids place I expect it. I avoid places like that intentionally. If I'm at a nice restaurant paying $4-6 for my beer and $15-20 for my dinner I expect an adult atmosphere.
 
Kinda funny this came up, I don't have kids yet but I do take my little cousin out to dinner and basically show her how her dad should treat her. She just turned 4 we took her out to dinner and she's no problem. We were sitting beside a group of people with a little girl about the same age and she was screaming kicking trying to spill their pitcher of beer when the waitress came over she grabbed her check book and then her hair and her mom just kept saying that wasnt nice. Braley kept acting why she was doing that. It's bad when other little kids know better than to act like that

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Agreed..... first off let me say I'm a father of a very loud 4 year old. He yells and screams and runs around like a wild child..... when appropriate! When we are in a sit down restaurant he does exactly that. He sits down! I cannot stand when people think their little brats can run around and ruin everyone else's time. Hell I've said something to people in the grocery store.
 
I would like to hear from a restaurant owner or manager the best way to handle this type of situation. The parents should have removed their child but if they don't I would leave and have done that. Think about the example you are presenting to your children. What if your child goes over to a parent and complains about a child's behavior ? I did get a round of applause from everyone at a Verizon store for loudly chewing out an associate for lieing and wasting my time.
 
RobMcBee said:
Agreed..... first off let me say I'm a father of a very loud 4 year old. He yells and screams and runs around like a wild child..... when appropriate! When we are in a sit down restaurant he does exactly that. He sits down! I cannot stand when people think their little brats can run around and ruin everyone else's time. Hell I've said something to people in the grocery store.
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I will say we were outside eating their was another couple with two little girls that were about 4-6 and when they got done eating they were dancing right beside the table while waiting for their parents to finish eating. They were out of the way and quite so I dont see a problem with that they were just being kids

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went to dinner with a family one time and their kids were totally out of freaking control. yep, they were the run around screaming kids. i said something to the father and his response was "when i'm paying for a meal i run the place." had my meal changed to carry out and left.
 
Loganwayne said:
I will say we were outside eating their was another couple with two little girls that were about 4-6 and when they got done eating they were dancing right beside the table while waiting for their parents to finish eating. They were out of the way and quite so I dont see a problem with that they were just being kids

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I can agree with that too.... but you know if your kid is getting on someone's nerves. It's having some common decency and respect for others. Something that doesn't seem to be taught much anymore. I love letting my boy run scream and be a kid. I laugh like crazy at some of the stuff he does.
 
I worked in a small diner through high school and our policy was if you cannot control your child you can pay for your food and leave. I had to escort a few guests out in the 3 years I worked there. And one after I had left for college, I was in for the weekend and stopped by for a bite, was asked to help escort a family out.
 
I think you handled it well. Discussing other people's parenting strategy usually isn't my thing, but when it starts impeding on what I'm doing...the time to be polite is over.
 
Jus Jim said:
went to dinner with a family one time and their kids were totally out of freaking control. yep, they were the run around screaming kids. i said something to the father and his response was "when i'm paying for a meal i run the place." had my meal changed to carry out and left.
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Sounds like a genuine piece of shit who's wife probably wears the pants at home so he lives for little victories. Loser who will raise loser fucking kids.
 
I remember when my kids were young, (probably like 8 and 5 ish) one night we went out to a low end sit down place. Maybe sagebrush or similar...anyway right behind us is a family with 2 young boys, roughly about the same age as my kids. They are being ridiculous. Have toy guns "shooting each other" screaming about being shot. Climbing up and across the table. At least 1 drink and a cup of pudding gets spilled....

I'm biting my lip. I don't do "say something politely " well. l can say nothing and I can be a grade a asshole...not much in between.

As we are finishing up our meal the waiter takes a moment to rather loudly thank us for having two well mannered and respectful kids. Snooty mom behind us pipes up "what about my two angels?" Before the waiter can figure out what to say Lane at 8 replies..."them are devils. If I acted that way my dad would beat my butt right here in the restaurant in front of everyone." ...he got ano honest to goodness ovation from no less than a half dozen tables.

As I paid my check and left, wiley and her hell ions had stormed to the car and hubby was requesting a manager.
 
RobMcBee said:
.... but you know if your kid is getting on someone's nerves. It's having some common decency and respect for others.
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UTfball68 said:
Discussing other people's parenting strategy usually isn't my thing, but when it starts impeding on what I'm doing...the time to be polite is over.
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This stuff here ^. Just yesterday, we went to lunch after church. My kid is 19 months now, and apparently that means he can't sit in a high chair at a restaurant without trying to scream his head off. His dumbass daddy is in a cast, but I still choose to pick him up one handed and walk around outside with him in my good arm while momma eats, instead of just letting him ruin everyone elses lunch.
 
Don't feel bad at all. Fuck em. I've been given a FU look before by parents when a host/hostess has tried to seat us in an area around a bunch of screaming kids and I ask to sit somewhere else in the restaurant. I am another that doesn't do subtle well. They knew what I asked. Anyone that fires back about them being "just kids" is a dumbass. I would have had my ass whipped and had to go sit in the car if I acted like that as a kid.

It would have happened again yesterday on the way back from my race except for the fact that I noticed someone at the table signing the tab so we wouldn't have to deal with it for long.
 
I think you did the right thing, but honestly it is more than I probably would have. I most likely would have taken my food and left. I tend to avoid confrontation with strangers in most situations for fear of some hot head carrying a gun and ending my life. It isn't worth it. I just go on with my day and forget about it. Idiots like that are not going to change.
 
I don't think you were out of line at all. My 5 and 8 year old do pretty well in a restaurant. I hate when my kids are bothering other people, because I don't like to be bothered when I go out to eat without them. We have a set of friends that I almost can't go out to eat with because their kids are maniacs. I'm pissed off the whole time i'm there. Well, I guess I don't like to be around their kids anywhere, for that matter.
 
My father in law is a preacher... *insert Dusty Springfield song here*

He would have had the same reaction you did.

I have 2 children, 7 years and 6 months. We take them out with us to eat and just about anywhere else. If you don't take them, they will never learn how to act in public. Sometimes there is a meltdown. It happens. Especially with the 6 month old. But, as soon as I see it coming, no matter which kid it may be, they are quickly removed either by myself or the hubs. They may act like jerks, but they will not disrupt everyone else. I had kids. I made that decision. I knew what I was getting into when I did so. No one else in the restaurant made that decision for me and they should not suffer because of it. If I have to stand outside or in the car with the kid until they calm down, then fine. If meltdown mode goes longer than planned, the hubs finished eating and we switch off until I'm done and we leave. Or we take our food home.

As for Jesus freak, he should have known the following -
Hebrews 12:9-11 - He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness.
Proverbs 13:24 - He who withholds his rod hates his son, But he who loves him disciplines him diligently.
Proverbs 22:15 - Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; The rod of discipline will remove it far from him.
Proverbs 23:13-14 - Do not hold back discipline from the child, Although you strike him with the rod, he will not die. You shall strike him with the rod And rescue his soul from Sheol.

Among a million others...

Your simple retort could have been, "I was simply trying to show the parents how to lead the child onto a heavenly path, it was obvious that they were not bringing him up in the way of the Word. I am surprised at you brother, that you are not as concerned with the child's eternal soul as I am.. "

:D yeah.. I'm a sarcastic ass..
 
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