Lawn and Landscape

justjeepin86 said:
Chamber bitter, interesting. I have a flower bed that has a bunch of it growing and it's moving into the yard. I notice it has tons of little seeds all over the leaves. What a pain. Thanks for the info.

I seeded about 3 weeks ago, Would it be ok to spray now, or will it hurt the young grass?
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You should mow 2-3 times before spraying, but the temps will get it by then most likely. Just be ready for next year in July
 
Man, the grass is waking up nicely!

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I hate yard work!!!
One reason is this in me now .... after the long haul Covid and lung damage ...

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R Q said:
I've started treating the Poa Annua and Poa Triv this year. I can't stand the questioning from clients and displeasure with myself for not attacking the issue. I am now attacking this mess. We will see how it goes...
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Can you tell me what you are doing? My yard is ate up with it. Its starting to go dormant and dirt will be showing soon. What i read quick was only pre emergent or kill everything were the options.
 
R Q said:
I've started treating the Poa Annua and Poa Triv this year. I can't stand the questioning from clients and displeasure with myself for not attacking the issue. I am now attacking this mess. We will see how it goes...
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Yeh, that stuff has been multiplying over the past few years. What can I do about it?
 
Velocity PM came out a couple of years ago to combat the Poa Trivialis. Plain Velocity has been available for years but was mainly for warm season turfgrasses. The new formulation makes it easier on cool season turf/fescue. It also helps to push out the Poa Annua which has the white seed heads on it now. It wasn't as well known that the Velocity PM also helped to knock out the Annua like it does.
I'm doing two full strength apps of Velocity PM now and it is yellowing the Triv well and in some cases is also yellowing the Annua. The goal is to reduce the infestation, not totally eliminate it, which isn't realistic.
This fall before seeding I will apply Poa Constrictor at seeding time because it acts as a pre emergent to Poa Annua but not fescue. I will spray at seeding time and then two-three more apps through the winter.
None of this is guaranteed but my jobs are eat up with it and I've got to do something. The clients are on board and know that we are just trying to reduce the population.
I have applied Prodiamine preemergent granular every 6-8 weeks over the winter in the past and it did reduce Poa Annua population but we are looking at 4 apps from August to January.
AND both Annua and Triv are becoming resistant to these herbicides and are also evolving into perinneals. Triv is surviving the heat if it has some shade and Annua is just a common asshole of a weed.
The Velocity PM is expensive, $550 for 16 oz. But it does cover up to 6 acres.
AND beware of killing with Round up and reseeding, Poa Annua seeds are stronger than Fescue and will be happy to germinate and take back their spot. Like I said, asshole of a weed.
 
From the sucks arse thread.

JSJJ388 said:
Chinese Privett sucks absolute arse. The very back/bottom of our property has a creek that cuts through, and that 100'x100' block had become overrun with privett. In setting up for our pasture, im clearing all of it out. Im sure I'll be dealing with it for years to come, but hopefully the pigs help root it out.

Didn't get a true "before" shot, but this is a good visual.

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Vs an area I've already cleared.

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The war will continue, but the battle has been won. Ive cut down all the privet thats big enough to be cut and pulled up what I can. The rest will get knocked back with the brush blade. Was able to open the area up a lot without taking down many natives. A couple arm sized tulips and 12" maple were the only casualties. Ive also been knocking out privet and multiflora rose in some other smaller patches. Now we just need some rain so I can burn the 4 brush piles.

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This was the biggest privet stump. Its 3'ish tall and at least 12" diameter.

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JSJJ388 said:
From the sucks arse thread.




The war will continue, but the battle has been won. Ive cut down all the privet thats big enough to be cut and pulled up what I can. The rest will get knocked back with the brush blade. Was able to open the area up a lot without taking down many natives. A couple arm sized tulips and 12" maple were the only casualties. Ive also been knocking out privet and multiflora rose in some other smaller patches. Now we just need some rain so I can burn the 4 brush piles.

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This was the biggest privet stump. Its 3'ish tall and at least 12" diameter.

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Are you round-uping the stumps? Otherwise it will just sprout back out from what ive read
 
awheelterd said:
Are you round-uping the stumps? Otherwise it will just sprout back out from what ive read
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I guess I am now lol. Ive head they are not fire tolerant, so im going to do a control burn when I can. Unfortunately, neighbor lady (rather her grandsons) have no interest in controlling it. So I'll probably be fighting it indefinitely.
 
JSJJ388 said:
I guess I am now lol. Ive head they are not fire tolerant, so im going to do a control burn when I can. Unfortunately, neighbor lady (rather her grandsons) have no interest in controlling it. So I'll probably be fighting it indefinitely.
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If you are referring to the privily they are highly resilient. I've seen a cut off branch re sprout. Digging the stumps out has been my best method. They will also sprout from the roots.
 
ghost said:
If you are referring to the privily they are highly resilient. I've seen a cut off branch re sprout. Digging the stumps out has been my best method. They will also sprout from the roots.
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I wish digging them up was an option. If I can, im gonna kill off everything except the trees and start over.
 
JSJJ388 said:
I wish digging them up was an option. If I can, im gonna kill off everything except the trees and start over.
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Bore a hole in the stump and pour round up in them. That worked on the smaller ones that weren't in clusters yet. The clusters I have found just sprouted from the roots. Once you get the roots small enough you can just pull them up by hand as the sprout.
 
Is it too late to fertilize my fescue? I bought some a few weeks ago and haven't had time to put it out. It also hasn't rained so not sure it would matter.
 
ghost said:
Bore a hole in the stump and pour round up in them. That worked on the smaller ones that weren't in clusters yet. The clusters I have found just sprouted from the roots. Once you get the roots small enough you can just pull them up by hand as the sprout.
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Here's how you Round Up a stump. Once you cut it, apply full concentrate R-up directly on the stump asap. Not later, not tomorrow, not after you get everything cut and hauled away. Do it within a few minutes of cutting it while it still looks wet from the sap. Use a cheap paint brush and brush it on the stump liberally. Wear rubber gloves and glasses, never splash it in your eyes or it can temp blind you. No need to drill holes, it absorbs best along where the bark meets the wood, but put over the whole exposed stump.
 
rabb11d said:
Is it too late to fertilize my fescue? I bought some a few weeks ago and haven't had time to put it out. It also hasn't rained so not sure it would matter.
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It's not too late but if you aren't going to water it, it may not help much. Don't over do it, so you don't burn it. What is the analysis of it (10-10-10 numbers)
 
rabb11d said:
18-24-12, 600lbs for 2 acres.
Would I better off to just save it for fall?
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That is a better fall fert. Double check the application rate. In that analysis that amount should cover 10-12K square feet per bag so you potentially have enough for 120K sq ft 3-3.5 acres. My second app that I'm doing shortly will be 11-0-7 FTR. Also in the future, I would go to a lesser P/phosphorous (middle number) so you don't get a build up that takes forever to come back down. There is an 18-12-12 available as a fall/seeding fert.
 
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