Let's See YOUR DODGE!

toyota231 said:
Quadzilla's customer service sucks and have numerous problems with tunes and the monitors. I've got the quad adrenaline with pulse and I don't like the problems I've had. Now the power is awesome. Granted I have an 01 but the problems have nothing to do with the year. Edge has a good product and customer service and its nice to have the guages on 1 monitor. Smarty is good but again need guages so that's an extra $400 unless you have them already. Oh and don't stack chips unless you have the mods to hold it (built tranny or good clutch, fuel system, guages, watch the rail pressure, ect). I've rode in a truck with all of them and the smarty is awesome and the bully dog with the crazy larry tune is right there with it. The edge and quad are nice cause you don't have to buy guages, they are with it.
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I've had nothing but excellent customer service with Quad. Every time they upgraded the Xzillaraider they replaced mine with the newest version for free. The adrenaline has had some problems. And you can't go comparing a 2nd gen and a 3rd gen when it comes to programmers or chips. Edge works great on a 2nd gen but has lots of problems on a 3rd gen. Smarty doesn't do much for a 2nd gen but is just plain nasty on a 3rd gen. Bully dog will cause you lots of problems with the ecm. Smarty is by far the most reliable there is. Like you said, no gauges, but I to me it is worth having to spend the extra money on separate gauges knowing that the chip/programmer isn't going to cook my ecm or cause other problems.

With a stock auto your limit is going to be about 100 hp and still be reliable, unless you're running a Smarty, then only 60 hp is recommended. There is that much difference in the power it makes.
 
I'm just trying to help the guy out. He asked about a chip and gets "my stacked chips worked great". That's not a great answer. Again customer service has nothing to do with the year model and when I speak of the programmers I'm speaking of 3rd gen. Quad sucks and I wouldn't recomend them to anyone. I've had to send my box back 2 times and it came back messed up both times. Also after less than 1 hour on my truck the pulse has 2 lines missing. Even quad admits some of their products are inferior. I'm just trying to give the man advice other than "this is what's on my truck" and try to help him understand that there is more to putting a programmer on than just #10 and hammer it. Don't want another typic douchbag with a chip thinking I've got chip my truck is the fastest around but I wander why my tranny came out type of situation. Best advice is get on cummins forum and competition diesel and research till you can't anymore.
 
Adam greene i was just saw where your selling your diablo if your looking for a good cheap programmer you have a great one already!When i first bought my truck it already had the diablo predator and for the money you cant beat it just make sure you even have gauges with it because on extremem mode it can get high egts but at the same time that programmer gave me the best mpgs I have gotten on my truck yet!When i was driving back from asheville from buying my truck i got almost 24 mpgs with it!

I have had the edge/w attitude and the #6 hot unlock and couldnt tell much difference between this and the diablo as far as power and sad thing is i got way worse gas mileage AND not near the smoke haha!

I have the smarty POD now and the power is crazy!I still get about 21 with it also as long as I stya out of it!

IMO I think you should always get gauges because my egde read out wierd sometimes and was hard to really pay attention to all the readings all at once.

For our model trucks if your looking to spend some money and have upgraded some things already go with the smarty w/ TNT if you havent and need a good programmer until you can save up keep your diablo and maybe get a power puck for it.IMO dont waste your time on anything else (as for our 3rd gen models) until you get some upgrades and then get a smarty.

I have also heard good things recently about the PPE's but hve heard of ecm problems along with those....
 
toyota231 said:
I'm just trying to help the guy out. He asked about a chip and gets "my stacked chips worked great". That's not a great answer. Again customer service has nothing to do with the year model and when I speak of the programmers I'm speaking of 3rd gen. Quad sucks and I wouldn't recomend them to anyone. I've had to send my box back 2 times and it came back messed up both times. Also after less than 1 hour on my truck the pulse has 2 lines missing. Even quad admits some of their products are inferior. I'm just trying to give the man advice other than "this is what's on my truck" and try to help him understand that there is more to putting a programmer on than just #10 and hammer it. Don't want another typic douchbag with a chip thinking I've got chip my truck is the fastest around but I wander why my tranny came out type of situation. Best advice is get on cummins forum and competition diesel and research till you can't anymore.
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Does this say anything about stacked chips?

"Neither. Either Smarty or Diablosport. Quadzilla makes a good chip if you want something to shift on the fly."

And it looks to me like your truck is a 2nd gen from your sig and you're speaking of your Quad box on your 2nd gen. The adrenaline is junk but I never said a word about an adrenaline.

I just so happen to own a diesel performance business and I have ran pretty much every chip and programmer on a 3rd gen Dodge that is made. I do know what works and what doesn't work. I can tell you pros and cons of every one out there, and what parameters they change. I've done performance mods to 100 or more 3rd gen Dodge's. Do you even own one? And not once did you say anything about their being more to a chip than turning it up all the way and hammering it. You say you've rode in a truck with all of them so that makes you the expert? I listed the programmers that I have had the least problems with. I have NEVER had any kind of issue with a Smarty or a Diablosport other than software needing to be updated because Dodge came out with a reflash. I have had to send one Quad Xzillaraider back and that was in 2005. I have had to send countless Edge boxes back for repair, and I won't even sell Bully Dog unless it's requested because of the computer issues it cause.
 
Bigben75ford said:
Adam greene i was just saw where your selling your diablo if your looking for a good cheap programmer you have a great one already!When i first bought my truck it already had the diablo predator and for the money you cant beat it just make sure you even have gauges with it because on extremem mode it can get high egts but at the same time that programmer gave me the best mpgs I have gotten on my truck yet!When i was driving back from asheville from buying my truck i got almost 24 mpgs with it!
I have had the edge/w attitude and the #6 hot unlock and couldnt tell much difference between this and the diablo as far as power and sad thing is i got way worse gas mileage AND not near the smoke haha!
I have the smarty POD now and the power is crazy!I still get about 21 with it also as long as I stya out of it!
IMO I think you should always get gauges because my egde read out wierd sometimes and was hard to really pay attention to all the readings all at once.
For our model trucks if your looking to spend some money and have upgraded some things already go with the smarty w/ TNT if you havent and need a good programmer until you can save up keep your diablo and maybe get a power puck for it.IMO dont waste your time on anything else (as for our 3rd gen models) until you get some upgrades and then get a smarty.
I have also heard good things recently about the PPE's but hve heard of ecm problems along with those....
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The Smarty has become the most versatile programmer on the market. It allows you to adjust timing, rail pressure, torque management, speed limiter, tire size, and now with the POD it is shift on the fly. Since it is now doing rail pressure there is really no need to stack a programmer with a chip. Most programmers only do timing and duration which is why you stack a box with them that does rail pressure only (i.e. TS MP-8, Quadzilla X2 with stack tune, or a Diablo Extreme Power Puck). PPE does make big power but it comes with less reliability. You are going to need at least a torque converter and valve body if you go with any more power than the Predator. I think your best option would be to invest the money you're going to spend on buying another chip or programmer on a set of gauges, then go for some tranny upgrades and a fuel system.
 
Just to throw it out there. When I bought my dually, I got an Edge Juice with Attitude for it (this is on a 3rd gen). I wanted it because of the power it gave me on my 02 vp44 truck. The day I installed it is the day I took it off. I hated the Edge Juice with Attitude on a CP3 truck. Yes, the gauges are nice, but the box doesn't give anything really. I went back to the Predator for a while until I saved up the money for a Smarty. If you have a 03 and newer Cummins, I would vouch for the Smarty over anything else. The Cummins Forum is going show you what works for some and what doesn't and has great opinions from different members.

Adam knows his shit...being the reason he does all the work on mine.
 
Took my headlights apart and painted the inside. Huge improvement. Next is painted bumpers.

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NCcummins said:
Just to throw it out there. When I bought my dually, I got an Edge Juice with Attitude for it (this is on a 3rd gen). I wanted it because of the power it gave me on my 02 vp44 truck. The day I installed it is the day I took it off. I hated the Edge Juice with Attitude on a CP3 truck. Yes, the gauges are nice, but the box doesn't give anything really. I went back to the Predator for a while until I saved up the money for a Smarty. If you have a 03 and newer Cummins, I would vouch for the Smarty over anything else. The Cummins Forum is going show you what works for some and what doesn't and has great opinions from different members.

Adam knows his shit...being the reason he does all the work on mine.
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Yep exactly thats why I was glad i got my edge for an awesome price I didnt have much invested so I wasnt too mad but it was cool to have the 0-60 times and 1/4 mile lol:driver:

SolarYellow05 said:
Took my headlights apart and painted the inside. Huge improvement. Next is painted bumpers.
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Looks great man i want to do this to my headlights IF i EVER get my truck back!
 
Bigben75ford said:
Looks great man i want to do this to my headlights IF i EVER get my truck back!
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Thanks. Let me know when you get ready to do it. I can give you some pointers. Its not very hard to do. Just have to be patient. It takes some time. I have prob 8-10 hours in mine. I have an almost new set of headlights for yours if you ever need them.
 
Looks awesome Adam...I'll drop mine off tomorrow and pick them up when I get back from Florida Wednesday haha!

Mike (93toy) detailed mine inside and out about a week ago. He did an AWESOME job. The truck looked brand new. No one could ever tell it was an 2003 truck with 320,000 miles on it. It was spotless. Here are some pics:

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I met you(whitey) last year riding through uwharrie I was like wow I cant believe hes taking that nice power wagon through here but hey you got balls!lol!I guess u could say.....

How is it wheeling something that weighs so much though?Im use to my little ol yota doing things like kodak i couldnt imagine putting my dodge up kodak!
 
Awspence's new ride! 03 Laramie auto

best decision he's made in a while!

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This one's a bolt-on betty!!
-AFE stg II intake with dry-flo
-4" MBRP single, with mufflah
- Smarty S06!!


soon to be molested by yours truly ---
 
anyone need a factory khaki bumper with chrome on the bumper,or factory steering rods?
 
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