Lots of interesting news today

Apparently a coffee shop in Dunn has a real problem with people using their alley patio as a public urinal, so they have created a website to showcase their visitors.

We See You Dribbling

If you're gonna spray, you better pray. Live surveillance of public urinators.
urinedunn.com
 
benXJ said:
none of this makes any sense, I gotta get on this activist grift train.

www.wral.com

Former inmate buys Wayne County Correctional Center, plans reentry and workforce campus

Kerwin Pittman, a social justice activist and former inmate, has made history by purchasing the former Wayne County Correctional Center in Goldsboro.
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I think that's great. Looks like dude turned his life around and helped others. $275k for a sizeable commercial property is a great deal, maybe its shady, maybe its floody, but seems like a wise purchase.
 
no, this

'After his release, he founded and became the executive director of the Recidivism Reduction Educational Program Services Inc, (RREPS).'

how many of my tax dollars have been siphoned off to now purchase a for sure moldy and flood prone old prison, no doubt hundreds of thousands more will be needed through a 'grant' to push this project along, maybe to one day do....something?
 
jeepinmatt said:
I can’t imagine the suspect would still be breathing if he tried that shit on most of the people on this board. Having your family there certainly changes the approach, and It’s also easy to sit here and say that from the comfort of my recliner. But dude can’t even drive a manual…
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If someone with a gun approaches me and my family like that, I am giving them the keys and walking away. I will go home and wait on the check from the insurance company and go buy another car. I'm old and don't see the point in risking fooling with a crazy man with a gun.
 
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drkelly said:
If someone with a gun approaches me and my family like that, I am giving them the keys and walking away. I will go home and wait on the check from the insurance company and go buy another car. I'm old and don't see the point in risking fooling with a crazy man with a gun.
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Yeah, I imagine I’d do the same, it just pisses me off to watch someone do that. They deserve to be shot.
 
drkelly said:
If someone with a gun approaches me and my family like that, I am giving them the keys and walking away. I will go home and wait on the check from the insurance company and go buy another car. I'm old and don't see the point in risking fooling with a crazy man with a gun.
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Flip side to that, im not taking the chance that they'll be satisfied with just taking the car. If the wires are crossed, no telling what they're thinking. And I'll be danged if we get shot for playing along with a nutcase.
 
RatLabGuy said:
I'm failing to see the problem here.
Are you jealous the dude has enough money to do this?
Why the assumption there is a grift?
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where did that money come from? (his gov't grant funded program)
so my taxes
and the 'best' use of my money is to buy an old moldy defuct prison in a flood plain that will no doubt need more of my tax dollars to fix it up and pay the sky high insurance? millions probably.
tired of all these obvious money laundering feel good suicidal empathy programs that are dragging us all down
the assumption is there because A: WRAL likes it, so its shady and B: the best they can do to explain this guy's abilty to do this is that he is a 'social justice activist'?
give me a break
 
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benXJ said:
where did that money come from? (his gov't grant funded program)
so my taxes
and the 'best' use of my money is to buy an old moldy defuct prison in a flood plain that will no doubt need more of my tax dollars to fix it up and pay the sky high insurance? millions probably.
tired of all these obvious money laundering feel good suicidal empathy programs that are dragging us all down
the assumption is there because A: WRAL likes it, so its shady and B: the best they can do to explain this guy's abilty to do this is that he is a 'social justice activist'?
give me a break
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There are a lot of these programs where I agree with you, I just don’t understand how/why this is one you’re so riled up against. From here it appears to be a private citizen using private money to purchase a dilapidated government burden and take it off the taxpayers. Show me otherwise and I’ll be happy to change my view.
 
Its not just this one....its just that this is the current one. Another grift will come tomorrow.
I smell another Learing Center
Dude says 'we' alot.
Uses a lot of buzzwords like 'resume building' and 'engineering'
He admits its gonna take millions to rehab it
No doubt RREPS gets funds from the hundreds of millions of tax dollars devoted to: Federal workforce reentry grants, NCworks, division of workforce solutions, workforce development boards, Governors council on workforce, Fedreal bonding and work opportnity tax credits,...on and on....can you imagine the payroll to fund and run all these tax payer funded programs? Of course there are many peoole 'taking advantage' and feeding at that trough.

There are already thousands of 'recidivism reduction programs' out there already that are well funded by you and me. How's that recidivism rate looking?

BUT! You know we have to keep sending people to jail.....prisions are big business too! And those prisons owners lobby hard! Police and 'crime fighting' employs millions.

'We' are fighitng against ourselves with our tax dollars! How so many are OK with it is mind baffling.

So yea, is buying a worn out, moldy, defunct, flood prone prison the best way to get dudes back in the workforce today? There aren't more modern buildngs available in Goldsboro that could be put to use today and start making a difference today?

But leaning on 'the first' to do something gets the front page stories and the donations and the public funds.

Let's check back in a few years to see if this guy is still rehabing this prison with other people's money. Or if Stein keeps the tap open for him.
 
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benXJ said:
none of this makes any sense, I gotta get on this activist grift train.

www.wral.com

Former inmate buys Wayne County Correctional Center, plans reentry and workforce campus

Kerwin Pittman, a social justice activist and former inmate, has made history by purchasing the former Wayne County Correctional Center in Goldsboro.
www.wral.com www.wral.com
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I can get behind this. The point of prison should be reformation and rehabilitation for re-introduction to society as productive and honest citizens. If they can't be reformed and their crimes are heinous enough that they warrant no chance of parole, then there's no reason for them to continue existing.


Programs like this help people who made bad choices get back on track. Personally I think its asinine to put such a stigma around felons, then bitch that they're not reintegrating themselves into society that ostracized them.
 
but the point is that they put a 'the first of its kind' label on it and its somehow needed? no talk of 'the best' 'the brightest' 'the most qualified' 'the most actual thing that will make a difference'

there are already thousands of gov't and 'non profit' programs out there today that already do what this guy is talking about doing. Why spend the money on this new program that already exists in hundreds of other forms already? Why aren't those other programs working? What is the special sauce here? is the answer 'more tax dollars'? That seems to be the answer so often.

there are hundreds of empty buildings in ENC that could be rehabbed for much less money and get to work (whatever it is they do) tomorrow....not years from now after spending millions, of yes, tax dollars

RREPS just got some tax payer grant money and blew it immediately. awesome.

shoveling tax dollars at programs designed to keep people from going to prison while at the same time shoveling more and more tax dollars at bigger and bigger prisons just doesn't add up

this 'community activist' is just the front man for this leech organization
 
JSJJ388 said:
I can get behind this. The point of prison should be reformation and rehabilitation for re-introduction to society as productive and honest citizens. If they can't be reformed and their crimes are heinous enough that they warrant no chance of parole, then there's no reason for them to continue existing.


Programs like this help people who made bad choices get back on track. Personally I think its asinine to put such a stigma around felons, then bitch that they're not reintegrating themselves into society that ostracized them.
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I didn't and never have 'ostracized' anyone.
If the dude working beside me has a record, I don't care as long as he doesn't bother me, works hard, and is not a leech.
The issue is that there are way too many people that won't help themselves....no amount of tax dollars will fix that...so yea, they should be removed forever.
 
JSJJ388 said:
I can get behind this. The point of prison should be reformation and rehabilitation for re-introduction to society as productive and honest citizens. If they can't be reformed and their crimes are heinous enough that they warrant no chance of parole, then there's no reason for them to continue existing.


Programs like this help people who made bad choices get back on track. Personally I think its asinine to put such a stigma around felons, then bitch that they're not reintegrating themselves into society that ostracized them.
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This! A guy I worked with at my previous employer is a felon. A bar fight got out of control and he stabbed someone. He was “young and stupid”…. His words. 7 yrs in prison. But he is a helluva a worker who got his shit together, owns his own house, has a family, and is a damn good friend of mine. Some here have met him cause he has come out to the vet ride the last couple years.
A guy I work with now is a felon and was messed up bad in the drug scene in early life. Spent a lot of collective time in and out of the system. Same as above though he got on the right side of life and is doing great. Problem with both of those scenarios is the system did nothing to get them where they are. They had to do it on their own and they are still labeled as felons for the rest of their lives and therefore limited in their options in life. I’m not saying they need their hand held but they deserve to be given an opportunity to show they can do better and then helped to a degree to get their life back on track.


Also, I’m a felon. I was a minor so it’s sealed. The Army gave me a way out. I took it. Even being sealed it affected my ability to easily gain a security clearance compared to my fellow soldiers in the early days of my career. I overcame it but still could have caused an issue.
 
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skyhighZJ said:
This! A guy I worked with at my previous employer is a felon. A bar fight got out of control and he stabbed someone. He was “young and stupid”…. His words. 7 yrs in prison. But he is a helluva a worker who got his shit together, owns his own house, has a family, and is a damn good friend of mine. Some here have met him cause he has come out to the vet ride the last couple years.
A guy I work with now is a felon and was messed up bad in the drug scene in early life. Spent a lot of collective time in and out of the system. Same as above though he got on the right side of life and is doing great. Problem with both of those scenarios is the system did nothing to get them where they are. They had to do it on their own and they are still labeled as felons for the rest of their lives and therefore limited in their options in life. I’m not saying they need their hand held but they deserve to be given an opportunity to show they can do better and then helped to a degree to get their life back on track.


Also, I’m a felon. I was a minor so it’s sealed. The Army gave me a way out. I took it. Even being sealed it affected my ability to easily gain a security compared to my fellow soldiers in the early days of my career. I overcame it but still could have caused an issue.
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Somehow I was able to never be arrested or incarcerated in my youth. Never did anything really bad but escaped being entered in the system… somehow. Thanks be to The Lord!

I agree with you on the person making the difference. The system is flawed, but on the other hand better than it could be.
 
benXJ said:
but the point is that they put a 'the first of its kind' label on it and its somehow needed? no talk of 'the best' 'the brightest' 'the most qualified' 'the most actual thing that will make a difference'

there are already thousands of gov't and 'non profit' programs out there today that already do what this guy is talking about doing. Why spend the money on this new program that already exists in hundreds of other forms already? Why aren't those other programs working? What is the special sauce here? is the answer 'more tax dollars'? That seems to be the answer so often.

there are hundreds of empty buildings in ENC that could be rehabbed for much less money and get to work (whatever it is they do) tomorrow....not years from now after spending millions, of yes, tax dollars

RREPS just got some tax payer grant money and blew it immediately. awesome.

shoveling tax dollars at programs designed to keep people from going to prison while at the same time shoveling more and more tax dollars at bigger and bigger prisons just doesn't add up

this 'community activist' is just the front man for this leech organization
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As far as I can find, this is the first of its kind program. You know of anyone else thats bought a prison and turned it into something actually useful? Where is the shoveling of tax dollars? What is read didnt mention anything of the sort. But, id rather see a program that helps turn people around than a program that turns people into .gov dependents.

benXJ said:
I didn't and never have 'ostracized' anyone.
If the dude working beside me has a record, I don't care as long as he doesn't bother me, works hard, and is not a leech.
The issue is that there are way too many people that won't help themselves....no amount of tax dollars will fix that...so yea, they should be removed forever.
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I didnt say you personally did. But society as a whole looks down on felons, regardless of what the crime was. Once someone has been released, they should be reformed. Programs like this pick up where the government fails (shocker!).

skyhighZJ said:
This! A guy I worked with at my previous employer is a felon. A bar fight got out of control and he stabbed someone. He was “young and stupid”…. His words. 7 yrs in prison. But he is a helluva a worker who got his shit together, owns his own house, has a family, and is a damn good friend of mine. Some here have met him cause he has come out to the vet ride the last couple years.
A guy I work with now is a felon and was messed up bad in the drug scene in early life. Spent a lot of collective time in and out of the system. Same as above though he got on the right side of life and is doing great. Problem with both of those scenarios is the system did nothing to get them where they are. They had to do it on their own and they are still labeled as felons for the rest of their lives and therefore limited in their options in life. I’m not saying they need their hand held but they deserve to be given an opportunity to show they can do better and then helped to a degree to get their life back on track.


Also, I’m a felon. I was a minor so it’s sealed. The Army gave me a way out. I took it. Even being sealed it affected my ability to easily gain a security compared to my fellow soldiers in the early days of my career. I overcame it but still could have caused an issue.
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I know several folks that were young and dumb, and then got smart. Good friend of mine got wrapped up in drugs and did some time in the pen. Got out, got right, and got clean no thanks to the "correctional system".

frankenyoter said:
Somehow I was able to never be arrested or incarcerated in my youth. Never did anything really bad but escaped being entered in the system… somehow. Thanks be to The Lord!

I agree with you on the person making the difference. The system is flawed, but on the other hand better than it could be.
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I never did anything terribly immoral or violent, but I've certainly done a right many things that could have gotten me in a world of trouble. Its only by God's grace and a some small town luck that I don't have a record. Hell, my first and only speeding ticket I was doing 110 mph, and got it down to improper equipment.
 
its not the first of its kind. it 'helps felons learn skills and get jobs'

thousands of these programs exist already. why aren't they working? why are they not enough? why not buy/rent a building that does not need millions in retrofits just to teach someone how to write a resume?

what kind of building its in does not matter
 
benXJ said:
its not the first of its kind. it 'helps felons learn skills and get jobs'

thousands of these programs exist already. why aren't they working? why are they not enough? why not buy/rent a building that does not need millions in retrofits just to teach someone how to write a resume?

what kind of building its in does not matter
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Dave’s bread got no federal funding/ same type of program great results
 
JSJJ388 said:
You know of anyone else thats bought a prison and turned it into something actually useful?
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how about an old prison that’s now a distillery?
In Mt Pleasant NC.

Home | Whiskey Prison

Southern Grace Distilleries at Whiskey Prison is the first distillery in the world to be located in a former prison.
www.southerngracedistilleries.com www.southerngracedistilleries.com
 
Other than one speeding violation later in life…

I got reckless endangerment of life and property for blowing through a school zone at 7:45 doing 90 mph on my dual sport, passing on double yellow and blowing through two stop signs. And underage consumption of malt beverage.

Underage ticket was $25 mail in. But if the land owner had pushed it if had been on the hook for thousands.

Reckless ticket I got dropped by a lawyer for $700 but still got a few points on insurance.

The rest of my youth… for which I was never apprehended shall remain anonymous.

I should have got in way more trouble than I did. By Gods Grace, I made it out alive and without charges.
 
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