Metal roofing - installation?

Blaze

Blaze

The Jeeper Reaper
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Wake Forest, NC
So the roof in my shop has started leaking pretty badly. It was dripping on my back all night while I was struggling to hook up the clutch hydraulics in my car last night. Left a nice puddle all over the floor when I checked it out this morning.

It is a shingle roof that is 25 years old. I want to replace it with metal roofing. I did a metal roof on the lean-to behind my shop, but I am not sure how the hell to do it here. The roof pitch is stupid steep, 10/12 pitch. I can get all the sheets I need for the shop for like $1300 but I am terrified to install it.

How do you do this or should I just pay someone to install it? I'd rather pay someone but I am also cheap as hell. :lol:
 
How long has it been leaking/how shitty is the sheathing underneath and are there less than two layers of shingles? It is perfectly acceptable to screw the tin straight over the old roofing materials without removing, especially on an outbuilding. That is a steep ass roof though, you might find some hispanics that know what they're doing, give them $500 and call it a day
 
braxton357 said:
How long has it been leaking/how shitty is the sheathing underneath and are there less than two layers of shingles? It is perfectly acceptable to screw the tin straight over the old roofing materials without removing, especially on an outbuilding. That is a steep ass roof though, you might find some hispanics that know what they're doing, give them $500 and call it a day
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Don't think it has been leaking very long. Sheathing looks ok, I can see it from underneath. Only one layer of shingles so I was going to just screw it down over it. But the pitch, good Lord.
 
Steepest metal roof I've worked on was 8/12. I wouldn't want to be on a 10 without some staging. Definitely a time and place for a harness.

Shoes made the biggest difference on the 8/12 on whether you could walk safely or not...I ended up mostly wearing some old canvas boat shoes with the squiggly siped sole. My work boots (probably red wings at the time) wouldn't stick at all.

As to whether to DIY or pay it done....figure up the labor cost against an ER trip and a couple weeks off work.
 
Just stay on the shingles putting the tin up. You can get the last sheet from a ladder. Safety harness or just a rope around you to do the cap. Just throw it over the ridge and have someone tend someone tend your rope on the ground. Won't be too hard. Use a harness or tie a bowline you can fit in at the end of the rope. I've even used a long electric cord in place of rope. Don't tell osha.
 
kaiser715 said:
As to whether to DIY or pay it done....figure up the labor cost against an ER trip and a couple weeks off work.
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Well, I'm not against the few weeks off of work, but the ER trip is another story.

I also hate this shop. It is plenty big but who the hell builds a 1100sqft shop that has an 8' tall ceiling and an 11'6" tall roof?
 
Make your money your way, hire others to do the same.....my new mantra. Stuff gets done twice as fast and the world goes round.
 
This is a perfect time to raise the whole garage up 2-3 feet like you talked about doing a while back :lol:.

Seriously though, weren't you talking about redoing the trusses to allow for more height in the middle or something?

I remember the pictures you posted. That garage is crazy tall with that steep pitch roof.
 
drkelly said:
This is a perfect time to raise the whole garage up 2-3 feet like you talked about doing a while back :lol:.

Seriously though, weren't you talking about redoing the trusses to allow for more height in the middle or something?

I remember the pictures you posted. That garage is crazy tall with that steep pitch roof.
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So because you are mostly all Jeep guys and understand how to fix Jeeps, here is my common sense solution to the leaking roof problem in terms of Jeep logic..
  1. Remove leaky roofing
  2. Remove roof deck
  3. Remove trusses
  4. Raise wall height
  5. Install new trusses with lower pitch
  6. Install new roof deck
  7. Install metal roofing
  8. Optional fix: Replace garage door
Roof will not leak anymore. Should be able to get it knocked out on a Sunday afternoon.
 
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drkelly said:
This is a perfect time to raise the whole garage up 2-3 feet like you talked about doing a while back :lol:.

Seriously though, weren't you talking about redoing the trusses to allow for more height in the middle or something?

I remember the pictures you posted. That garage is crazy tall with that steep pitch roof.
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I talked about it, but we never could find a way to make it work comfortably structurally. Fuller might disagree.

But yeah, I have totally thought maybe doing that. Raising the roof and doing new trusses. The shop is ridiculous as it is. :lol:
 
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For reference, before I built the lean-to and moved all the crap behind it. Also before I added the garage door right there behind the TB.
 
I did my house, and many buildings. Going over the shingles, I was 8nstructed by the manufacture that in order to maintain the warranty I had to use an underlayment.
 
Fabrik8 said:
So because you are mostly all Jeep guys and understand how to fix Jeeps, here is my common sense solution to the leaking roof problem in terms of Jeep logic..
  1. Remove leaky roofing
  2. Remove roof deck
  3. Remove trusses
  4. Raise wall height
  5. Install new trusses with lower pitch
  6. Install new roof deck
  7. Install metal roofing
  8. Optional fix: Replace garage door
Roof will not leak anymore. Should be able to get it knocked out on a Sunday afternoon.
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No, Jeep guys stop after #3. Just ask @jeepinmatt

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Fabrik8 said:
So because you are mostly all Jeep guys and understand how to fix Jeeps, here is my common sense solution to the leaking roof problem in terms of Jeep logic..
  1. Remove leaky roofing
  2. Remove roof deck
  3. Remove trusses
  4. Raise wall height
  5. Install new trusses with lower pitch
  6. Install new roof deck
  7. Install metal roofing
  8. Optional fix: Replace garage door
Roof will not leak anymore. Should be able to get it knocked out on a Sunday afternoon.
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You forgot install hideously large and useless gutters.
Paint random wall panels to color coordinate with roof.
Hang giant metal panels from weak trim nail and calling it storm armor.
Putting stickers all over it.
Performing weird hand gestures at other garage owners you dont know and proclaiming them as friends
 
Step 1:

Call and pay somebody to do it. Not worth it.

Step 2:
While you're waiting, take that portable carport or an EZ Up and set it up inside to keep the drips off your back :flipoff2:
 
RatLabGuy said:
Step 1:

Call and pay somebody to do it. Not worth it.

Step 2:
While you're waiting, take that portable carport or an EZ Up and set it up inside to keep the drips off your back :flipoff2:
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...could also put a tarp over the roof like peeps do after hurricanes to keep it dry until the roof gets fixed.


Blaze said:
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For reference, before I built the lean-to and moved all the crap behind it. Also before I added the garage door right there behind the TB.
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What about a metal, shed roof? rip off the roof and rafters, build the front wall 10' or more higher and dump all the rain/leaves/pine needles behind the garage. You'd have plenty of room for a taller garage door on the front and a higher ceiling.

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too bad your so far away, I'd come do it. easiest way to do it though is get a 40ft extension ladder extend it out to sit on the ground and lay it up on the roof...start with one sheet at a time with ladder next to that 3ft piece with someone holding at the bottom and top man puts in screws to hold it.you can lay them all out like that and then same way you go through and screw them off. it's pretty easy doing it that way if you're not afraid of being on a long ladder
 
mommucked said:
...could also put a tarp over the roof like peeps do after hurricanes to keep it dry until the roof gets fixed.
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My method doesn't require getting on that ridiculous roof :D
 
marty79 said:
too bad your so far away, I'd come do it. easiest way to do it though is get a 40ft extension ladder extend it out to sit on the ground and lay it up on the roof...start with one sheet at a time with ladder next to that 3ft piece with someone holding at the bottom and top man puts in screws to hold it.you can lay them all out like that and then same way you go through and screw them off. it's pretty easy doing it that way if you're not afraid of being on a long ladder
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Well, that would work for the front, but I have a 15ft lean-to off the back of the shop so wouldn't be able to put a ladder up the back like that.
 
In the past we've used a ladder stand off on the top of the upper half of the ladder hooked on to the ridge.. No need to go to the ground. You could also just run a couple screws through the ladder into the roof deck. Think chicken ladder.
 
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