Metaphorical Question

Jody Treadway

Jody Treadway

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Simple question...
When there is a leak in the house, do you shut off the water at the main (so as to completely stop the flow) or do you crimp/shut it off somewhere else in the house?
Do you then, after you know the flow can be safely restored, just open it up wide-ass open or slowly open it in an effort to not overwhelm the infrastructure?

Just curious?
 
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Shut it off at the main unless you can pin point where the leak is and see if the source has its own cut off. If you're testing for a leak shut off all the faucets in the house and go look at the meter and see if it's still moving, if so you've got a leak. When turning the meter back on I just crank it open, never had an issue.
 
Diarrhea is a motherfucker

Edit: This reminds me of a joke.

There once was a manager looking to hire a position in his company. He finally had narrowed it down to four people. The manager decided to ask each of them one question and whoever answered it the best would get the job. He got them all into one room and started the final interview. The question was, "what is the fastest thing in the world?"

The first interviewee thought for a moment and said, "A thought". "Everyday I'm doing stuff and ideas just pop into my head."

The manager thought that was a pretty good answer. So he moved to the next person.

The next guy thought about it and after a moment he said, "A blink. We do it hundreds of times and day and it happens so fast we don't even know we're doing it."

The manager thought that was a pretty good answer too. The next guy took a minute and said, "Back on the farm we have a barn out in the middle of a field. It's got an outside light that we turn on when we go out there to feed the cows. I'll walk into the kitchen and flip the switch and before I can look up the light is on. So I think light is pretty fast."

The manager agreed and thought his answer was good too. It was finally the last interviewee's turn. With great confidence he said, "Diarrhea". The manager looked confused. He said, "You see the other day I was sitting on the couch watching TV and it hit me. I jumped up and ran as fast as I could to the bathroom but before I could think, blink or turn on the lights I shit myself."
 
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Where will you be when Diarrhea strikes

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.....PS I hope you don't have that bug goin round :eek: lot's of peeps I know have gotten it lately and 2-3 days seems to be the norm.
 
I usually use the main shutoff in our crawlspace if I know the problem is inside the house. There's no problem with cranking it wide open afterwards, because there won't be any flow if nothing is consuming water.
 
Cut it off at the main unless you know where the issue is 100%

Then when you think it's fixed, open it up a little at a time to see how it goes. All OK? If so, open 100% and back to normal. If not, shut off and start over.
 
I'm guessing this is about Trump stating we should stop letting Muslims in the country immediately.
 
Carter shut off flow to Iranians in 79 during the hostage situation....but that was JUST Iranians, not all Muslims.

What Trump is suggesting runs parallel with what another leader did in the late 30's/ early 40 to another religious group
 
CasterTroy said:
Carter shut off flow to Iranians in 79 during the hostage situation....but that was JUST Iranians, not all Muslims.

What Trump is suggesting runs parallel with what another leader did in the late 30's/ early 40 to another religious group
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Not exactly parallel - more like perpendicular, but still in the same horizontal plane.... and still detestable, un-Constitutional and against every fiber of the Founding Fathers' being. Closing off the border to one certain religious group is not the same as rounding up a religious group and wisking them off to concentration camps to their death in gas chambers but it still follows the same insane paranoid Modus Operandi. The problem here is we are not fighting an "enemy" per se as we are fighting an idealism. You can't legislate away an idealism. ISIS fighters don't don a uniform and carry a flag onto a conventional field of battle. They hide behind the innocent so that we can't just carpet bomb a territory and be done with it. They are using the U.S. and U.N.'s own rules of engagement against us so that every time we do strike, someone wails about how many innocent lives were lost in the process as collateral damage because we didn't get the intel 100% right. The idea of "winning their hearts and minds" sounds good on paper, but at some point, the hearts and minds we win eventually revert back and here we go again.

I don't have the answer. I studied History like it was going out of style as a kid (it apparently did go out of style), but the current state of affairs leaves me baffled. In the days of FDR, it took less than one day after an attack on US soil (with a nearly unanimous vote in Congress) to enter the US into an all out war which defined a generation and brought about the pinnacle of U.S. patriotism and heroism. While 9/11 brought back a surge of patriotism and heroism, collectively, it seems that we have lost touch with the greater good that the WWII generation saw. Now, we are all too worried about our individual "freedoms" being trampled by an off-handed comment or someone offending you by cutting you off in traffic waving the solo-digit-salute. If the fight against ISIS (or whatever) spilled into a true WWIII scenario with the US fully committed to victory by any means necessary, how many of us would commit ourselves to live in the way that they did in 1941-1945 - living on food, gas, tire rations, turning in metals to be recycled for the war effort? I don't know that I could myself. This was a way of life back then.
 
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If you don't ever want to have a risk of a leak, rip out all the pipes. But you'll be shitting outside again in the cold. My luck though, I would catch my bare ass on a rusty shit house seat nail in the process of wiping and inadvertently end up with MRSA and die from that. No real point other than every decision here has a potential risk and consequences and in some cases we can't even make the decision we want to make (some HOA's might not like the idea of me shitting in the back yard I am guessing).
 
ManglerYJ said:
it still follows the same insane paranoid Modus Operandi.
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I'm glad you saw the intent despite our differences on the geometry :rockon:

Very well said. I happen to agree with everything you stated above. We've become a nation terrified of offending. Trumps ideals were refreshing and appeal to a very wide audience of folks fed up with the PC BS. However, his ideals (at the root) are no better than Obama's and his threat to use executive action if he doesn't get what he wants. In the back of my mind I still believe Trump isn't actually serious about the presidency. He's simply using this as one big ego stroke, and attempting to get thrown out of the RNC. I think he's just on the train right now because his numbers show him on top and "his show" (this trainwreck) is getting him higher ratings than the Apprentice, and it's feeding his ego with an IV. This last verbal diarrhea may have done it though. Sometimes I honestly think he wants out just so he can then say "I told you so" and "I've been saying this all along" down the road.
Regardless of WHEN he pulls the plug, he'll ride this out on the lecture circuit till past the election.
 
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CasterTroy said:
I'm glad you saw the intent despite our differences on the geometry :rockon:

Very well said. I happen to agree with everything you stated above. We've become a nation terrified of offending. Trumps ideals were refreshing and appeal to a very wide audience of folks fed up with the PC BS. However, his ideals (at the root) are no better than Obama's and his threat to use executive action if he doesn't get what he wants. In the back of my mind I still believe Trump isn't actually serious about the presidency. He's simply using this as one big ego stroke, and attempting to get thrown out of the RNC. I think he's just on the train right now because his numbers show him on top and "his show" (this trainwreck) is getting him higher ratings than the Apprentice, and it's feeding his ego with an IV. This last verbal diarrhea may have done it though. Sometimes I honestly think he wants out just so he can then say "I told you so" and "I've been saying this all along" down the road.
Regardless of WHEN he pulls the plug, he'll ride this out on the lecture circuit till past the election.
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I think you are absolutely right about him not being serious about the presidency and this being a big ego circle-jerk. Unfortunately, in the meantime, it splinters the existing Republican party into "Trump-sided and not Trump-sided". I like the idea of someone who can come in and shake up the status quo, because the current status is not so quo. I just don't want them wiping their a$$ with the Constitution in the process, even if it was all in fun. These are serious issues we are dealing with, not sound-bite fodder for the uninformed masses.

Who is to blame? Partly the media. Yes. Those who were tasked to report the news now feel the need to create the news in a 24/7 cycle of all flash and no substance. In my eyes, the media is the biggest terrorist organization known to man. Yes, I said it. All a terrorist needs to accomplish is to place fear in the mind that wasn't there with a few simple words... "What if..."

What if the events of San Bernadino happened in YOUR office? What if it was YOUR family member that was shot? What if it was YOUR neighbor that did the shooting? What if, what if, what if..... As a result, some people are afraid to act, afraid to live, afraid to be.

The flip side of the coin is that the media reports the other "what ifs". What if someone was falsely accused of terrorism? What if the soldier on the battle line shoots the wrong person? What if the police officer waits just a few seconds too long to make SURE his target wasn't armed instead of taking him out based upon the perceived threat and he is able to attack fully? Now, the fear of the potential outcome weighs so heavily as a result of the "what if" that it makes the actions or inactions that much worse. This is terrorism. Police afraid to do their jobs for fear of potential lawsuits, or other legal action. Soldiers hamstrung because they had to wait for a command to fire that never came because they were too busy waiting on politicians to get out of the bathroom. The news is full of terrorism, it's just disguised.
 
ManglerYJ said:
I just don't want them wiping their a$$ with the Constitution in the process
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Exactly.

The other scare is sheeple casting a vote for Trump just to cancel someone else's vote for Hillary. George Washington was right, this 2 party business is absolute shit.
 
I was seriously about to answer the question as a actual plumbing problem.

Glad I read some of the responses before I got that far.


Our water bill was creeping up for the last few months during the summer. So one month it shot way way up and it was time to do some serious investigating. Was going to to the main to cut off the water and found my leak. The leak was pretty serious. But, thankfully it was outside and not affecting any wood or insulation. So, the water had to be cut off at the road (400m) to complete the fix.

I turn it back on wide ass open. Let the games begin.

So that begs the question is what is the problem is before the valve? Just shutting off the valve isn't enough to combat the problem sometimes. It some cases you have to go to further upstream to take care of the problem. So what if the valve at the road was bad? I would have had to shut the water off at the next closest main.
 
BigBody79 said:
So that begs the question is what is the problem is before the valve? Just shutting off the valve isn't enough to combat the problem sometimes. It some cases you have to go to further upstream to take care of the problem. So what if the valve at the road was bad? I would have had to shut the water off at the next closest main.
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If the valve at the road is bad, it's someone else's problem (i.e. the utility). You own it from the meter to the house.
 
Sure Trump made an extreme statement but at the end of the day it's no more extreme than the WH plan of gun control and being polite to Muslims. Some where in between those 2 extremes is a possible solution. The Liberal idea of not doing a damn thing and hoping for more gun laws after the next attack is not really effective.
 
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