MOTD (Meme of the Day)

skyhighZJ said:
why the ban of gas stoves when electric stoves use WAY more fossil fuel to generate the electric Vs. Naturals gas or propane which has better BTU exchange
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STFU and buy an electric car already!!!!

Stop killing us with your DIESEL fumes
 
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drkelly said:
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There use to be an old guy who worked on tractors in the next county that had a sign like that in his shop.Said it never failed folks would wait till spring corn planting time or hay mowing time to get something big done on a piece of equip.
 
skyhighZJ said:
And because I’m not invested enough to do my own research, why the ban of gas stoves when electric stoves use WAY more fossil fuel to generate the electric Vs. Naturals gas or propane which has better BTU exchange compared to electric??!!
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Its not about that. Its not about anything really.
Somebody asked whether should should be a review to consider the safety concerns associated with them. People then lost their shit thinking that meant a ban was coming. White house has said flat out they have zero interest in that.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Its not about that. Its not about anything really.
Somebody asked whether should should be a review to consider the safety concerns associated with them. People then lost their shit thinking that meant a ban was coming. White house has said flat out they have zero interest in that.
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news.yahoo.com

N.Y. governor proposes 1st-ever statewide ban on gas hookups in new buildings

As the centerpiece of a multipronged initiative to combat climate change, New York Gov. Kathy Hochul proposed on Wednesday a first-of-its-kind, state-wide ban on natural gas hookups in all new buildings.
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RatLabGuy said:
thats retarded.
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It’s also hypocritical as fawk.
See backup generators largely are powered by either diesel or natural gas.

In the last 5 years NYCHA has been forced by state law to add back up generators to all thei buildings. It was about a 95MM investment in back up power.

All large natural gas units.

The average unit I’m talking about consumes somewhere around 6,000,000 BTU an hour.
Put in perspective a 5 ton gas pack should consume around 100,000 btu when running at max capacity.

Much like so many other regulations they aren’t concerned about impacting the major contributors - they are focused on controlling and maybe more importantly propagandizing a populace and
 
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Power grid collapse in: Three, Two, On.....oops it came early! What amount of fairy dust is gonna created this new highly efficient electrical system? Please don't say solar. The fields and trees being bought up in areas that used to be beautiful pasture for big dead plastic and steel panels is sickening.

Edit: If cities want "efficient" electricity bad enough first demand every building and or infrastructure to collect solar energy from every square inch of surface available.
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Power grid collapse in: Three, Two, On.....oops it came early! What amount of fairy dust is gonna created this new highly efficient electrical system? Please don't say solar. The fields and trees being bought up in areas that used to be beautiful pasture for big dead plastic and steel panels is sickening.

Edit: If cities want "efficient" electricity bad enough first demand every building and or infrastructure to collect solar energy from every square inch of surface available.
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Back in my army days we’d use small solar panels to recharge radio battery’s along with hand cranks when the sun/terrain no cooperate. It’d take forever just to charge a couple of radio batteries. I can’t imagine on a grand scale how shitty and unreliable a power grid would be if it were reliant on solar. Cool dream, it’ll never work.
 
Wes said:
Back in my army days we’d use small solar panels to recharge radio battery’s along with hand cranks when the sun/terrain no cooperate. It’d take forever just to charge a couple of radio batteries. I can’t imagine on a grand scale how shitty and unreliable a power grid would be if it were reliant on solar. Cool dream, it’ll never work.
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Exactly, so what grid is all this extra load gonna come from?
 
WARRIORWELDING said:
Please don't say solar.
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NC has less than 130 usable days of solar every year (clouds.. etc) despite the solar farms you may see around

We tried solar in the late 70's and 80's. Hicks water stove attempted to supplement their systems with solar to " help"

About everyone that fell for that abandoned those solar panels and kept using the wood stove portion till they got too old to start a fire every 3 days.

Every solar or photovoltaic system I've been forced to design was abandoned or scrapped in 10yrs or less.

Just my experience 🤷🏿‍♂️
 
CasterTroy said:
NC has less than 130 usable days of solar every year (clouds.. etc) despite the solar farms you may see around

We tried solar in the late 70's and 80's. Hicks water stove attempted to supplement their systems with solar to " help"

About everyone that fell for that abandoned those solar panels and kept using the wood stove portion till they got too old to start a fire every 3 days.

Every solar or photovoltaic system I've been forced to design was abandoned or scrapped in 10yrs or less.

Just my experience 🤷🏿‍♂️
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Yep I've fed three different water stoves in my life. All three different family members including our own. All that time gas and labor didn't add up for me. I'd assume burn wood directly in a furnace for wood or an insert. Charging a big water battery to pump it and suck the heat out just seems like a waste of thermal jockeying the heat around.
 
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