My answer to safer schools

Dylan W.

Dylan W.

lone resident of Bro-Lite Island
Joined
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Location
Mocksville NC
i posted this in another thread..but thought it might deserve its own thread. Its long..but please read.


HERE IS THE ANSWER in my OWN opinion and yes...I thought of all this by myself..lol (sorry for any spelling errors)
anyone is welcome to debate any point of this...please.

Imagine this scenario

What is a S.C.D.?

S.C.D. stands for Secret Campus defender(s) In easy terms..this means that there are a few VERY SELECT teachers in any given school that are armed and trained to stop someone from gunning down high numbers kids,teachers etc...

How do I become SCD certified?

You apply.. Lets say out of an entire school staff, only 20 % of teachers will even consider applying.The list of applicants will be narrowed down by 90% befrore the list makes it any further than the sherrifs desk..In easy terms...the 75 year old science teacher will not make the cut, evn though she applied. The easily recognized overzealous hot headed gym teacher will not make the cut...The coke bottle glasses wearing 40 year old history teacher will not make the cut. So by this, everyone that would gladly become an SCD, 90% WILL BE TOLD NO,righ off the top

Who will make the cut?
Now were are left with 10% of the applicants..out of those 5% will be told no due to any number of reasons including, medicines they take..history of deppression..etc..this list could be long.. NOW..we are left with the remaining 5%..out of these..we will give a physical exam,training courses and other various methods(to be determined later) of how to narrow this ramaining 5% down to only 3%.

So this leaves us with ,lets just say 4 teachers in a school that will be allowed to go to a government paid..government provided, government ran training course to be any schools S.C.D.
This training will encompass evrything needed to become a SECRET CAMPUS DEFENDER. They will be trained just like police,cia,FBI in marksmanship AND OTHER ASPECTS OF SHOOTONG SAFETY,HOW TO HIT,WHO NOT TO HIT..COMPLETE TRAINING!
During this training, they will also be taught how to keep in a secret...like cia,fbi,etc...(this is important, as the children do not need to know who the SCD'S at their school are. The idea behind the secrecy is to keep the students minds on school and everything great about it. NOT ''who's gotta gun?''
Good Example..as of just a few years ago, due to many heart related deaths during school, there have been programs that have brought defibulators into schools. Many schools have them, to be ready to use in the case of a heart related emergency, however...NOT EVERY teacher is trained to use it..and Id bet..not many students know which staff members are trained to use it. It just sits in the background until needed...same idea would apply to the SCD. only the guns would be even more ''out of sight'' of the students than the defib.

Not only would the SCD keep the fact that they are armed and trained, a secret from students..there would be no need to even let the other teachers know. Out of sight, out of mind. Only there when needed.,which hopefully will be never.

I dont know, but I bet many schools have ex-military men as teachers... already ''mostly'' trained. i imagine these will be the first folks to apply. I imagine there are already many vol firemen in schools..these will be the first to apply..
The point is, there are many folks that would be willing to step up and DIE for these kids if needed. There are heros already imbedded in the schools, as evident from the reports that teachers shielded kids with their own bodies and DIED SAVING STUDENTS. Why not train them to be a certified S.C.D.?

** IN MY OPINION**
You will never be able to protect everyone in a SURPRISE attack. If there is a crazy on the loose..someone is GOING TO DIE.
S.C.D.'S will lessen the numbers!!!

There is no need to hire extra police to be at the school at all times...no need to spend the money. There are plenty of folks that will gladly provide this service FOR FREE. They are already at school...

Like I said , the ''chosen ones'' will be few in numbers..but the cream will rise to the top. ''Chosen ones'' are already in the schools. They just need the US Government to allow them to step foward..and then blend back in.

Please...I welcome any ''nay sayers'' or questions and comments... I have though about this ALOT.​
 
thats a good one.....but i have one too..... we get midgets to shave and sit in classrooms. they will have glock 18's. dosent HAVE to be a midget, just someone who is really short or young looking. we wont even tell the teacher (most are libs anyway). cant fail.....
 
Dylan fits half that description lol. Good idea though man I like it.
 
simple answer is to allow teachers to conceal carry with the extra permit for school grounds (only allowed to receive after extra class instruction and extra range qualifications (what good is an inaccurate teacher that's scared already?) and proof that you are in fact a teacher) not the lunch lady, not the bubble gum scraper, not the nurse, or the bell ringer (teachers and direct administration) those classes would be the emphasis of secrecy, "you so much as show the gun outside of attack on school grounds, no pay, no job, no permit, conceal revoked, no questions"....its all just a start and a matter of opinion, but the general direction of SCD's is a good idea in one way shape or form
 
bryanjongodart said:
thats a good one.....but i have one too..... we get midgets to shave and sit in classrooms. they will have glock 18's. dosent HAVE to be a midget, just someone who is really short or young looking. we wont even tell the teacher (most are libs anyway). cant fail.....
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biggoofy said:
Dylan fits half that description lol. Good idea though man I like it.
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Save the short jokes for every other thread I have ever posted in..ever.. I am ''serious Dylan'' in this thread:)
 
boatedwagon said:
simple answer is to allow teachers to conceal carry with the extra permit for school grounds (only allowed to receive after extra class instruction and extra range qualifications (what good is an inaccurate teacher that's scared already?) and proof that you are in fact a teacher) not the lunch lady, not the bubble gum scraper, not the nurse, or the bell ringer (teachers and direct administration) those classes would be the emphasis of secrecy, "you so much as show the gun outside of attack on school grounds, no pay, no job, no permit, conceal revoked, no questions"....its all just a start and a matter of opinion, but the general direction of SCD's is a good idea in one way shape or form
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Exactly...Dont ever show the gun..dont talk about the gun..Secrecy is key.
 
I honestly think this is a great idea.
 
After 9/11 we began arming pilots and placing secret air marshals on flights. Your idea follows that template fairly close, just need to arm the principal...the theory has been implemented in the air already...maybe on the ground next...
 
now the question is how do we "the people with some common freakin' sense of the United States of America" bring this and turn it into action? do we start a white house petition like the one to secede or build the death star?
 
off_road2 said:
After 9/11 we began arming pilots and placing secret air marshals on flights. Your idea follows that template fairly close, just need to arm the principal...the theory has been implemented in the air already...maybe on the ground next...
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no..we cant just arm the princapal. My last princapal was 69 years old, and way to blind to do the job. Some are scared of guns... Other princapals may vary...lol

boatedwagon said:
now the question is how do we "the people with some common freakin' sense of the United States of America" bring this and turn it into action? do we start a white house petition like the one to secede or build the death star?
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I wish I knew..maybe someone else has this answer..I do think that the fact that most of us wont know what to do with this idea next...is kind of sad and a problem in and of itself!
 
off_road2 said:
After 9/11 we began arming pilots and placing secret air marshals on flights. Your idea follows that template fairly close, just need to arm the principal...the theory has been implemented in the air already...maybe on the ground next...
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Id say the children are even more important than those who fly the friendly skies. YES..we do the on the ground thing next!
 
Dylan W. said:
NOW..we are left with the remaining 5%..out of these..we will give a physical exam,training courses and other various methods(to be determined later) of how to narrow this ramaining 5% down to only 3%.

So this leaves us with ,lets just say 4 teachers in a school that will be allowed to go to a government paid..government provided, government ran training course to be any schools S.C.D.
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I'm in favor of the idea, but you need to be realistic w/ the math. To get at least 4 people you're gonna need > 3% unless you have a HUGE faculty to pick from...
Plus it will taking pretty serious measures to make sure a student(s) can't jump the teacher and nab the weapon. This isn't as much of a problem w/ SRO's b/c they aren't doing a million things a minute mixed amongst throngs of kids all day like many teachers...

And of course the big question - this will very, very expensive - where' the $$ gonna come from? It's not like school systems are drowning in cash these days.

But yes - arm the teachers.
 
we shouldn't have to pay for it, if a teacher feels he/she needs to be armed, he or she needs to get the extra classes, etc. if he/she passes compensation is safety at their work place
 
RatLabGuy said:
I'm in favor of the idea, but you need to be realistic w/ the math. To get at least 4 people you're gonna need > 3% unless you have a HUGE faculty to pick from...
The math will work itself out..Im no mathAmagician..the math will work itself out. Some schools may not have anyone step up and apply, some will have many applicants. Point is..not all that apply will be chosen. NOT even close to all.
Plus it will taking pretty serious measures to make sure a student(s) can't jump the teacher and nab the weapon.The secrecy idea is the key to this. And if..a kid jumps the teacher..is no reason to deny the idea. This isn't as much of a problem w/ SRO's b/c they aren't doing a million things a minute mixed amongst throngs of kids all day like many teachers...sro's still have a job and a place in schools..but where was the sro in CT?

And of course the big question - this will very, very expensive - where' the $$ gonna come from? It's not like school systems are drowning in cash these days.tHE MONEY CAN COME FROM THE FEDS(US) Id gladly pay a little for this in taxes..keep in mind..the training is/should be the only expense. Remember a SCD is a pure selfless volunteer. No need to pay beyong regular teacher salary.

But yes - arm the teachers.
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NO...dont arm the teachers..arm the SCDs and keep it a secret.
 
boatedwagon said:
we shouldn't have to pay for it, if a teacher feels he/she needs to be armed, he or she needs to get the extra classes, etc. if he/she passes compensation is safety at their work place
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I'd bet there are a high number of possible SCDs that would fund this out of own pocket if given the chance..
but Id be willing to foot the bill as a taxpayer for the feds to provide this training for FREE to the would be SCD'S to keep my kids safer at school. After all...the children are number one in my book.
 
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kaiser715 said:
Home school.

Most home-schooler families I know have probably a minimum of 5 guns.
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I may be totaly wrong, but wasnt the latest school shooter home schooled? If not..either way, homeschooling just cant be the answer as most have to use public schools.

I do believe that home schooled kids stand much less of a chance to be involved in a MASS school shooting though.;)
 
Dylan W. said:
S.C.D. stands for Secret Campus defender(s) In easy terms..this means that there are a few VERY SELECT teachers in any given school that are armed and trained to stop someone from gunning down high numbers kids,teachers etc...​
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Dylan W. said:
NO...dont arm the teachers..arm the SCDs and keep it a secret.
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You said the SCDs ARE teachers.

Keep in a secret? Great theory.
Now lets think of a small town like.. .say... Mocksville.... How many "secrets" are there really that last? Come on, in schools there's nothing that spreads faster than the slightest hint of a secret, be it true or not. So what do you do when the secret gets out that scary ol' Ms. Wiles is packin' heat? Take it away and train somebody else? This training won't be cheap to do properly.
 
boatedwagon said:
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/09/22/petition-white-house-we-people dylan.....i think this would be one way to start

http://www.ncsbe.gov/content.aspx?id=66 or here for state petition
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To be honest..I am not the guy to take this any further than this forum or facebooks or something. Although Id love to see it take off. My language and grammar is bad. Somebody clean this up..word it just right, somebody with better schooling and the right verbage...Id sign in a heartbeat.

Im probably not the first to conceive this notion..but I havent heard much about it either. So to me,right now, its the best Idea i have had or heard.
 
Dylan W. said:
I do believe that home schooled kids stand much less of a chance to be involved in a MASS school shooting though.;)
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too bad they also have much less chance of having social skills too :D (oh yes I did go there)
 
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