Don't worry y'all. I AM going to take the MSC class as soon as I get a free weekend (johnston co. has openings). My work schedule sucks big ones. I know the bike is powerfull, big, can kill me if i dont respect it. Thats why I'll be riding in parking lots for the next few weeks so I can pratice conering, emergency stopping, yada yada yada... what kind of bikes do yall have?
Glad to hear you are taking a safety class. IMO and from talking with people that have ridden their entire lives, as well as almost every rider I know, anything above a 600 is pointless. You can gear a 600 to run out of the corners and walk all over Literbikes. Topend is the only advantage of a bigger bike. Be careful man.
IMO and from talking with people that have ridden their entire lives, as well as almost every rider I know, anything above a 600 is pointless. You can gear a 600 to run out of the corners and walk all over Literbikes. .
I've had an assortment of 900cc and up bikes from CBRs,FZRs,GSXr's,TLR, and a 916....I could ride my CBR600F2 just about to its limits and could dust most everyone on bigger bikes (in the twistys of course, that's my style of riding) I moved back up to the liter bikes after becoming too comfortable on the 600 I needed something to respect again. But yeah, unless you've got mad experience a 600 is a plenty.
So you're saying you turned that on that literbike, being your first bike, etc., etc. ? The undertone of your post was that it's your first scoot, and you've got limited experience..
I think the basic tone of what's trying to be said is that he's got what is basically a step or 2 away from being a trackbike. It would be in his best interest to get a "crash course" (no pun intended) on how to properly ride a bike, before some of the local straightliners see the chrome windscreen and try to "show him how to ride"
It's gonna be an expensive bike to learn on, the goal is to try and make it as pain-free as possible, too.
All I know is that 100% of my personal experience is that anyone who "drives" their bike instead of "rides" it is not MY style of rider.
I don't cruise. I don't see how fast I can go in a straight line. I don't do "stunts". I do enjoy acceleration to just enough over the speed limit to keep me out of trouble. I enjoy not slowing down for the curves after reaching relative top speed. I enjoy dragging various body parts such as fairings and pegs, not backs and legs. I don't carry my ho, because I refuse to endanger her life as well. I don't like riding with people I don't know, and I don't like riding with people I haven't ridden with before. I prefer to lead because it is easier to follow. I prefer to lead so that I can use my awareness and quick reactions to help those behind me avoid hazards. I run sticky tires so that I will have more traction than I ever need, in case I ever need it, because tire life is less important than my own.
i agree with this thread...and dont compare track times to being able to ride on the street. The MSC doents teach how to race it teaches how to ride on the street and survive all the idiots out there trying to run you over just because you got on the bike and have been fine doenst mean you are a expert and that everybody can do it im sure you would still learn something in the course. the 100 bucks for msc is a lot cheaper then new bike part or hospital/funneral bills just my .02
And since we're bringing up lap times...
1:59.2 on a stock 99 EX500 with sticky tires. This was also the first time I had ever been to VIR. I was topping out at about the same time I was bending the dogleg in the front straight.
wake up... this thread isn't about flexing your e-muscles on what a badass rider you are. we were giving a new rider simple safety advice. you decided to throw some bad info out there and got called on it, sorry if that makes me an asshat.
i want to do whatever i can to help prevent someone ending up screwed by their own dumbass actions or by a cager like i was a few months ago:
using your head and taking a safety course can go a long way in preventing that, even though some things are just unavoidable as my case was.
im not saying that you should go out and act like a damn dumb ass... i was just saying dont let people scare you into it and if you feel so much pressure about riding one, then dont...
and no this isnt my first bike. i raced dirtbikes growing up, then bought my first bike when i was 16.. . had a 96 suzuki katana... yah, i started light ... then i had a 03 suzuki gsxr 600... then i bought the 03 954... then still owning the 954, bought and built an 06 kawsaki 636 with a built motor and a 35 shot, raced it a few times and sold it being a bike should not just be meant to go straight ... still own the 954 and thinking about buying another one just to make a track bike... that or either a 600rr
im 23 now, not saying im older and wiser.. but yah, i have had years of experience and hands on at that.
Rufus, sorry about your accident, but the lack of gear scares me.
I refuse to ride in anything less than a textile jacket, heavy jeans and work boots. When I go play in the hills its full leathers, back protector, and sidi boots.
I laugh so hard i cry everytime i see a lowered sportbike, waste of a damn fine machine. Usually it's a flatlander that's lost because I'm always in the country and they stick to the city trying to pick up ho's.
The shorts are what I was talking about, I agree it wouldn't have helped in your case though. I hope you recovered ok. That's a nasty laceration/ break!
but not with me driving
... still own the 954 and thinking about buying another one just to make a track bike... that or either a 600rr