OVER WEIGHT TICKETS SUCK!

Rich said:
With the exception of a trailer with a GVW of 10k or more, as I remember it. Then you're looking at a Non-CDL Class A.
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Incorrect. As long as the Total GVWR of the combination is less than 26,001lbs you are safe.

For example; if my tow rig has a GVWR of 10k, I can tow a trailer with a GVWR of 16k legally with a Class C.
 
ecu88xj said:
Incorrect. As long as the Total GVWR of the combination is less than 26,001lbs you are safe.

For example; if my tow rig has a GVWR of 10k, I can tow a trailer with a GVWR of 16k legally with a Class C.
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§ 20‑4.01. Definitions.
(2a) Class A Motor Vehicle. – A combination of motor vehicles that meets either of the following descriptions:
b. Has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds.

§ 20‑7. Issuance and renewal of drivers licenses.
The classes of regular drivers licenses and the motor vehicles that can be driven with each class of license are:
(1) Class A. – A Class A license authorizes the holder to drive any of the following:
b. A Class A motor vehicle that has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds.

Towed unit = trailer..
This just came off the http://www.ncleg.net/enactedlegislation/statutes/html/byarticle/chapter_20/article_1.html site, which I would assume is up to date.
 
IIRC the back of our drivers licenses had the 10,000lb trailer stipulation, but that was removed a year or two ago?

Mine now reads:
Class C: Any noncommercial single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 lb. A vehicle towing a vehicle which has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 lb operated by a driver 18 yrs. or older.
 
awspence said:
IIRC the back of our drivers licenses had the 10,000lb trailer stipulation, but that was removed a year or two ago?

Mine now reads:
Class C: Any noncommercial single vehicle with a GVWR of less than 26,001 lb. A vehicle towing a vehicle which has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 lb operated by a driver 18 yrs. or older.
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Exactly my point.

And when I was a Georgia resident (in early '08), my GA license read something to the extent of "Any noncommercial single vehicle with GVWR less than 26,001 towing a trailer less than 10,001 GVWR. Any noncommercial vehicle and trailer combination less than 26,001 lbs GVWR"

I remember this because it always scared the bejezus out of me me that any yahoo with a license in the state could operate a 36k lb motorhome and trailer combo.
 
Rich said:
which I would assume is up to date.
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It is, but you're not reading the relevant section.

(3) Class C. – A Class C license authorizes the holder to drive any of the following:

a. A Class C motor vehicle that is not a commercial motor vehicle.

b. When operated by a volunteer member of a fire department, a rescue squad, or an emergency medical service (EMS) in the performance of duty, a Class A or Class B fire‑fighting, rescue, or EMS motor vehicle or a combination of these vehicles.

c. A combination of noncommercial motor vehicles that have a GVWR of more than 10,000 pounds but less than 26,001 pounds. This sub‑subdivision does not apply to a Class C license holder less than 18 years of age.
 
Just do your best to be legal, cause after all, the DOT can issue you a ticket for being ugly, or having a red truck with white wheels. I have gone through the scales at Mebane on I85, and told I was fine, and gone through at the state line on I77, and got a ticket for being 3K over on my rear axles. This was in my tandom axle expeditor freightliner, and the load didnt shift at all.
 
millercustomfab said:
Just do your best to be legal, cause after all, the DOT can issue you a ticket for being ugly, or having a red truck with white wheels. I have gone through the scales at Mebane on I85, and told I was fine, and gone through at the state line on I77, and got a ticket for being 3K over on my rear axles. This was in my tandom axle expeditor freightliner, and the load didnt shift at all.
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Heh. That's probably the best advice so far.
 
Got the scales pulled on me today for the first time EVER...Im young but have hauled proablly 50-65 cars/trucks...so i guess it was time for it to happen..And let me tell you it happened at the worst time!

I was hauling my big cherokee with my 99 f250 excab and a dual axle 16ft dovetail. Long story short. Tags on trailer way out of date, fenders choped on trailer...no lights at all on trailer. looking very over loaded/hanging off the trailer (not the trailer i normally use). 12k tags on the truck. Came in at 13,700 and change. Officer was very nice and just told me to up the tags and be very careful going home. THANKFULLY i caught a break. Needless to say ill be uping the tags asap
 
Sounds like of I ever do weighted I should just max it out to avoid any possible problems.
 
Alright, I've read a lot of this thread and have gotten confused more times than I can count. So do I need weighted tags for a 5.9 1999 Dodge Durango pulling my YJ on a 7,000lb rated car trailer??

Oh and please don't get your panties in a wad if missed some minute piece of information on page 7 post 13 third line from the bottom!
 
FunkSkunk said:
Alright, I've read a lot of this thread and have gotten confused more times than I can count. So do I need weighted tags for a 5.9 1999 Dodge Durango pulling my YJ on a 7,000lb rated car trailer??

Oh and please don't get your panties in a wad if missed some minute piece of information on page 7 post 13 third line from the bottom!
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I dont think so, the Durango would be included in the SUV loophole
 
RenegadeT said:
I dont think so, the Durango would be included in the SUV loophole
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I believe this to be correct, HOWEVER...

I rode to Tellico with Mobdawg in his 5.9L Durango towing his YJ (tons, 36"s) and it was scary... FAWKIN' SCARY! Several times the trailer was wagging the Durango and stayed "kicked down" (out of OD) 99% of the way there which netted some very crappy MPGs...
 
fishgutz said:
Sounds like of I ever do weighted I should just max it out to avoid any possible problems.
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That would cost you a fortune every year.

13k is the sweet spot if you're never really heavy. The rate jumps big at 13001 and... I think 17001??
 
Caver Dave, mine tows great, sounds like something maybe up with his trailer? My Jeep doesn't have tons but it has few upgrades (soa, 37's). I've also towed my buddies J2000 truck and I forgot it was back there most of the trip.

And yeah the durango gets some crap mileage when I'm towing, about 250 miles and I got to fillup again

Thanks for the advice guys
 
So i've read this whole thread and have a few questions. First, what defines an SUV?

I've got a deuce, and from what is being said i should at least have a tag that is weighted to 14k to cover my 13,500lb empty weight? The rear is covered for passenger carrying, and it is not easily converted back to an empty cargo bed(at least not without a torch to cut the metal supports) so can I call it an SUV?

I picked up a super cheap trailer to tow my beater, but my suburban can't handle the tongue weight of the trailer, so i have to use the deuce to tow it.
just so you can see, here is my setup
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the canvas covers a wood and metal frame with a rear door...was a covert radio truck in its past
What can be done, or do I just need to outfit it to be an rv?

or since i won't be towing much, do i just cross my fingers?
 
It goes by the registration. Is yours a truck, or a station wagon?

If the deuce weights 13,500 empty, plus 2k for the trailer and 5k for the Jeep, you're looking at a ~20k tag.
 
So I have one for you guys,I bought my first diesel(just getting back from afghanistan) from 66gasgrill off of here up in asheville a few weeks ago.After i bought the truck we took it to the DMV to change tags over and they gave me a regular tag for it(not weighted)!Its a 2003 Dodge Cummins QCSB with a 6" lift and 37's on it!We told the lady that he already had weighted tags on it but she said if I wasnt pulling anything then I didnt need them and a regular tag would be fine!Well im about to buy a 16' dovetail trailer to pull my yota with and Im wondering what size tag will i need to upgrade too?Also I have just bought this tag and such and was wondering how much they would charge me to get a weighted tag and such?thanks for any info guys!
 
They will effectively give you credit for the "unused" portion of your current tag, and prorate your new weighted tag that much. As far as weight, it is a hard call, but I would imagine 14k bare minimum. Best is to weigh you rig. I run 13k, but a 2wd regular cab truck is a lot less weight to begin with than what you got.
 
My camper is 41ft long and weighs 33,000 pounds before I even put a can of beans in it,air brakes and jake brakes. Trailer is 22ft long. Tags on coach $30.00 a year, trailer tag $20.00 a year. No CDL's needed, go figure.
 
RufusTheRam said:
i'll be sure to wink and smile at those assholes the next time i pass through pulling my 32ft. trailer with 2 trucks on it and my regular tag and regular license. suv's and rv's ftw!:flipoff2:
threads like this are exactly why some changes/exemptions NEED to be made to this law. it is absolutely retarded that a person pays for the tags on the vehicle being towed AND the trailer, yet that doesn't count for shit towards the tow vehicle's tag.:shaking:
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you dick!! :fuck-you:



anyone know how much a 16k tag is gonna cost me yearly and if I can get a commercial tag to be exempt from the weighted mess?
 
I just tagged my 3500 yesterday with a 7000 lb. weighted tag. Once i get the jeep rolling again i'll put it on the trailer and go weigh it all together. They said i can come back and just pay the difference if i needed to up my tag weight. I'm sure it will be over 10k. She also told me that a standard 6000lb. regular tag is actually ok for up to 9000lbs though. Go figure.
 
The 6k private truck tag means your vehicle has to weigh less than three tons, and you can tow a 3k trailer. Your 3500 weighs more than 7k empty.

Here are the current rates for plates. 9k, 13k, and 17k are the sweet spots. 26k and over has to be a Commercial plate.

PHP: 
Not over 4,000 pounds                           $0.59
4,001 to 9,000 pounds inclusive                   .81
9,001 to 13,000 pounds inclusive                 1.00
13,001 to 17,000 pounds inclusive                1.36
Over 17,000 pounds                               1.54
 
saf-t scissors said:
The 6k private truck tag means your vehicle has to weigh less than three tons, and you can tow a 3k trailer. Your 3500 weighs more than 7k empty.

Here are the current rates for plates. 9k, 13k, and 17k are the sweet spots. 26k and over has to be a Commercial plate.

PHP: 
Not over 4,000 pounds                           $0.59
4,001 to 9,000 pounds inclusive                   .81
9,001 to 13,000 pounds inclusive                 1.00
13,001 to 17,000 pounds inclusive                1.36
Over 17,000 pounds                               1.54
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Thanks for that. I'm going to drop mine to 13k and pack light.
 
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