OVER WEIGHT TICKETS SUCK!

Discussion in 'Tow Rigs and Trailers' started by rock-lucky, Mar 15, 2009.

  1. XJfreakHO

    XJfreakHO Triad Trail Junkies

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    I never realized the tickets for this were so high, Ive yet to get one and Ive always towed jeeps/ scrap/ and other vehicles with my truck or other trucks and only one of the trucks Ive used was weighted and Ive never had a problem. Even got pulled over towing 2 years ago with a half ton chevrolet with a 16 foot trailer and a xj on the back, was definatly a little more weight than the truck was meant to pull and the officer didnt say anything about it, just said I needed to fix the trailer lights as somehow the plug disconnected going down the road.

    Good to know, definatly gonna look into a weighted plate.
     
  2. FlameRedTJ

    FlameRedTJ New Member

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    Weighed my truck last week, 7220lb. w/o me in it. 06 2500 CTD 4x4. probably 150-200lb toolbox with stuff in it. My tags only good for 8k, oops. stupid DMV said it was 6200lbs
     
  3. M&M Offroad

    M&M Offroad Well-Known Member

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    Got popped

    Ok, I deserve what i got and maybe more... I have been under weight on my tags for awhile now and Sat. on the way to BDB event, state trooper pull me on 77 and weighs me...writes me ticket for 3500 lbs over my tag... He was very proffesional and not a jerk.... and i think he was a leniant as he could be and still doin his job... Jones was his name... I appreciate that the ticket was only $100.00 Could have been much worse. Adding weight and getting New inspection Asap.... But be warned they are on the crackdown.
     
  4. ToaDisco

    ToaDisco Well-Known Member

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    Well, you all are making me nervous. I've still got a 8K tag(F250, 10,000 Lbs rated trailer, 5,000 lb truggy) and have to make a 3 hr drive on 40 to get back around Winston.

    Debating on trying to get my tags raised up here(really would like to get it scaled first)

    I'm really not feeling too lucky to be honest...
     
  5. 92yotaman

    92yotaman Active Member

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    ok all these tickets got me wondering, i have a 2wheel car hauler carriage thingy. Do the same weight rules apply to me?
     
  6. drkelly

    drkelly Dipstick who put two vehicles on jack stands

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    I'll admit I had been riding around with a 6,000 lb tag until about 6 weeks ago. This thread made me go get a 15,000 lb weighted tag.
     
  7. bigwaylon

    bigwaylon Well-Known Member

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    why wouldn't it?

    without a trailer...you'd still need a tag if the truck weighed enough...so you need one for trailer, tow dolly, etc...

    this is assuming you're towing with a truck and not an SUV...

    Greg
     
  8. ecu88xj

    ecu88xj Well-Known Member

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    You have a tow dolly.

    Tow dolly's are a big gray area. In NC, a tow dolly does not require a title or a plate under the implied logic that they are supposed to be covered by the of the plate of vehicle being towed. If the rig being towed is plated and insured, you should be fine.

    Logically the truck probably should have enough tag to cover both truck, dolly and towed vehicle, especially if the vehicle being towed isn't tagged. This is never explicitly stated anywhere in my research and the rules are clear as mud.

    I have never been bothered with the dolly and trail rig behind me (knock on wood). I always insure my trail rig before taking it on a longer trip, and hope to never encounter an LEO that has a firmer interpretation of the rules that is in opposition of my 'pursuit of recreational enjoyment'.

    If you were towing an empty tow dolly, I would assume you need enough weight to cover it and your truck, but again it is never stated. In the rule books in any state I have ever lived in, there is not a lot of emphasis placed on dolly users as we are a minority of all users.
     
  9. Jeff B

    Jeff B pool boy

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    Weighed last week, truck, trailer & jeep 14,342 I tagged it at 15,000 that gives me plenty for fuel, toole parts & gear. I was tagged at 10,000 so it only cost me another $35.
     
  10. OnlyOneDR

    OnlyOneDR Well-Known Member

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    I really need to get to the DMV and make work cough up the dough to uprate the tag on my Dodge 2500. Damn thing has normal plates on it, but weighs in at 7300 lbs without me in it. When I towed out to AZ I was probably over 14k GCW.
     
  11. jeepn-jason

    jeepn-jason Well-Known Member

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    This would have been either brian or brent, there are 2 brothers that patrol surry county area. Great guys!
     
  12. 92yotaman

    92yotaman Active Member

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    thanks ecu88xj that clears up a lot of guessing. I think the f250 is weighted for 8k so im gonna make a trip to dmv
     
  13. OnlyOneDR

    OnlyOneDR Well-Known Member

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    Had mine weighed on the CAT scales a few times recently. Had a GCW of 14900 with a 16' enclosed trailer and equipment a few weeks back.

    Got 15k tags this week. Cost $212 with registration renewal included. Old regular tags were only good for 6k, the damn truck weighs almost 5800 empty.
     
  14. braxton357

    braxton357 Robot

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    Meant to find this thread the other day. Thursday around noon, saw three nchp tahoes in different spots sitting on the side of the road waiting between gastonia and hickory on 321. Be careful.
     
  15. GONOVRIT

    GONOVRIT blue collar brotherhood

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    Can't hit a man up when you're in the 'hood??:rolleyes:
     
  16. braxton357

    braxton357 Robot

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    If it makes you feel any better, I did think about you. :flipoff2:
     
  17. BLUERUNNER

    BLUERUNNER Well-Known Member

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    Does anyone have a link that shows in writing the law that SUV's and RV's are exempt. Or at least in writing the law that states this is for pickups only? Just put tags on my new (to me) excurision today and the lady at the crossroads dmv tag place told me I need weighted tags to pull my 11K boat.
     
  18. Ridgerunner

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  19. Spence

    Spence Well-Known Member

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    That link says all combinations over 10k lb must go through weigh stations..... has anyone here ever done that in a totally non commercial situation?
     
  20. braxton357

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  21. Landcruzn

    Landcruzn Well-Known Member

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    The law for comercial vehicles are anything over 10,001 pounds require federal inspection and are subject to dot inspections. Any private vehicle are subject to the weight that they have their vehicle tagged for no matter private or what. If you have a camper then u are exempt why i do not know but you are. If you have a camper on a goose kneck with a buggy then u are still considered a rv and are exempt from weight. Thing is if you are towing your buggy with a 7000# tag and that barely covers your vehicle what do you expect.
     
  22. Landcruzn

    Landcruzn Well-Known Member

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    if you are over 10,000# and are just a private vehicle you do not need to go through weigh stations that is commercial vehices only not just Jo schmo going down the road
     
  23. millercustomfab

    millercustomfab New Member

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    Okay after driving a truck for many years I can tell you a little about DOT regs. First of all these are DOT Federal laws underneath the state laws. If you weigh 10,001 or more total combined weight, you are considered a commercial vehicle by Fed law, and you must cross the scales. This includes roll backs, and wreckers, of course I have never seen many have issues by not doing so. Busses and RV's are exempt because under law a RV is considered a bus. A pull behind camper is considered a commercial vehicle if it puts your CGW over 10,000lbs. If you are pulling an empty trailer rated for 12,000lbs you are required to have a class A. It doesnt have to be loaded just registered for that weight. Or a truck registered to tow more than 10,000lbs the same rule applies. It has been known for a long time that the DMV enforcement is a source of revenue for the states, and they can many times ignore you, or fine you several thousand dollars if they feel like it. That being said if a trooper, or dmv asks you to cross the scales or be weighed on the roadside no matter what you are driving, they have the authority to do so. Just remember all other laws apply to this as well. If you are towing your rig, and your combination is above 10,000lbs (yeah that would be everyone) you also must log your hours, and have a DOT health card if you travel more than a 150 mile radius from your home. Sounds impossible, but yes its true. Will they ever get you on this probably no, but they have laws to fine you with something if they feel the should. Remember it's a crime to pee on a pine tree in NC punishable by jail time!
     
  24. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

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    North Carolina state law allows Class C license holders to operate combinations with GCVWRs of 26000# or less. That supercedes their adoption of the FMCSA.

    HOS rules only apply to vehicles operating as part of a commercial enterprise engaged in interstate commerce that also qualify as CMVs. Here and here. If you have "Jim Bob's Racing" decals on the side of your rig, you may be interpreted as falling under these rules. If you're towing a CJ behind your pickup on your way to Callalantee, probably not.
     
  25. Rich

    Rich Asshole at large

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    With the exception of a trailer with a GVW of 10k or more, as I remember it. Then you're looking at a Non-CDL Class A.
     

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