Safer gun access...

UTfball68

UTfball68

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Not sure if the title makes sense, but historically, where ever I've lived I've had firearm hidden, but accessible in every room. With my own kid(s) and more young nieces/nephews, I feel like the guns need to be more than just hidden, but don't want to be fiddling with a lock when time is off the essence. Primary concerns are night stand in the bedroom, generally have one in a drawer near each outside door and some tucked away in kitchen cabinets. Not really looking to stay holstered 24/7 either. Maybe small finger print safes, in the same areas??? That doesn't really help with shot guns though.
 
I like my 10-digit touch pad drawer safe in the night stand. Only requires a 4-digit combination so i'm not fumbling through a long series of digits when trying to access quickly (this being in a hurry to put in a holster, not experience with an intruder). It doesnt do anything for me if a burglar comes in as he can just steal the drawer, but it serves its purpose of keeping children out. Next time I will probably go with a bio reader to be even quicker.
I would think bio/finger print safes would be the way to, esp if you are willing to drill holes inside the cabinets and firmly attach them.
 
I got tired of moving my bedside from safe in closet to dresser drawer every night/morning, so I went with a speed vault. I got the keypad version instead of finger print. My phone doesn't unlock with fingerprint sometimes (wet, dirty, whatever) so didn't want that risk on the safe.

Like grnranger said, won't help with a thief but it keeps it safe from the kids.
 
I always liked the idea of the hidden gun shelves/furniture.
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My only advice for safe gun keeping around kids is to 1) stay holstered and 2) educate. Growing up guns were laying in most every corner of the house. I got my first gun at 2 1/2 years old (been hooked ever since) and knew that guns are tools that serve a purpose and that can be dangerous. Any questions I had were answered so that we werent too curious. We were allowed to handle any gun we wanted as long as my dad was there.
 
JSJJ388 said:
My only advice for safe gun keeping around kids is to 1) stay holstered and 2) educate. Growing up guns were laying in most every corner of the house. I got my first gun at 2 1/2 years old (been hooked ever since) and knew that guns are tools that serve a purpose and that can be dangerous. Any questions I had were answered so that we werent too curious. We were allowed to handle any gun we wanted as long as my dad was there.
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Agreed 100%...same way I was brought up around firearms. Like driving in the snow, don't worry about my skillset, it's the other people...wife's friends' kids, wife's sister's kids, etc. Probably just end up having to bite the bullet and do small digital/fingerprint safes. I'm not so worried about a gun in a safe being taken out of a drawer, as I am keeping other people from easily accessing.
 
Holstered 24/7

Kids are grown but old habit. Only way to insure the firearm is guarded and or out of range of sneaky/curious tiny hands. I grew up with hidden firearms everywhere and knew better. My kids knew better. But my kids had friends over every day. Sometimes there'd be 7 kids at my house at any given time. Granted, I knew the kids and parents and 75% of the time the parents had firearms but that 25% with liberal or firearm fraidycat parents, it just made more security sense to stay holstered (liabily has shifted greatly from when we were kids)
 
its a sensitive subject regarding NC laws, as it is illegal now to have guns anywhere but locked up or on your person (iirc). [when children live/visit in the home]


what used to be a legal method was a pistol stuck to the upside (roof?) of the top drawer. easy to get to if you have deep/long drawers. ive never been a fan of a locked up pistol as an emergency firearm
 
UTfball68 said:
Agreed 100%...same way I was brought up around firearms. Like driving in the snow, don't worry about my skillset, it's the other people...wife's friends' kids, wife's sister's kids, etc. Probably just end up having to bite the bullet and do small digital/fingerprint safes. I'm not so worried about a gun in a safe being taken out of a drawer, as I am keeping other people from easily accessing.
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When we have friends with kids over I just lock my long guns in the safe and keep two pistols holstered. Yea its a pain, but I wouldnt want to see one of the youngins get hurt. As soon as they leave I get my long guns back in their places
 
I️ Always keep longjohns another guy and*going to be using emergency locked up last thing I want to do is give a burglar a weapon to use against me or anyone who gets irate and wants to reach for something it’s best to only have the gun that you’re going to use in case of emergency be the only one that’s available in the home
 
ckruzer said:
I️ Always keep longjohns another guy and*going to be using emergency locked up
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Are you being held captive?

Did you have a stroke mid-reply?

Is voice to txt interpreting your "southern draw" poorly?

Inquiring minds want to know :flipoff2:
 
LBarr2002 said:
I got tired of moving my bedside from safe in closet to dresser drawer every night/morning, so I went with a speed vault. I got the keypad version instead of finger print. My phone doesn't unlock with fingerprint sometimes (wet, dirty, whatever) so didn't want that risk on the safe.

Like grnranger said, won't help with a thief but it keeps it safe from the kids.
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This is what I do too. Also went with the finger pad buttons instead of prints for piece of mind. I sometimes stay holstered, sometimes put it away in the speed vault depending on my comfort level (clothing and temperature) at the time.
 
UTfball68 said:
Most of my 'hiding places' are flip top/down furniture, so a similar concept...but without locking it, I don't see how to keep kids out.
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The big advantage those have, and my suggestion is to keep them high. Top shelf in bath/bed cabinet/closet or over fridge in kitchen. Install a mount to the inside of closet doors at the top. Like a multistage holster where you have to push, turn, pull to release the weapon.
 
Education is the #1 preference.
That's how my girls were raised are there was never a problem.
They are both very comfortable and manage firearms quite well themselves.
I would suggest that you not engage my oldest in a gunfight ...... YOU will loose. It's scary how accurate she is.

But in all honesty there are times when that is not sufficient ..... friends, family, etc ......
Height. Short arms and short legs can't reach what yours can.
Locks, boxes etc. just slow down your response time.

I am armed whenever dressed ..... but for those times I'm not, it's anyone's guess.

Matt
 
CasterTroy said:
Are you being held captive?

Did you have a stroke mid-reply?

Is voice to txt interpreting your "southern draw" poorly?

Inquiring minds want to know :flipoff2:
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haha. that was too awesome. yeah... text to speech epically failed me on that one.
 
Mine stays on my hip until I go to take a shower. Then it is on top of my dresser. Kids can’t reach it. Everything else is in the safe.
 
So with all the 'mine's on my hip' comments, I'm getting the sneaking suspicion I walk around in my boxers at home a helluva lot more than the average person, or is there another meaning for the term 'dick holster' I need to know about???
 
Also...you'll learn real quick when the kids are old enough to be out with "Grandma" or friends, or get to be teens and driving......you typically don't strip down to boxers until they're all home and accounted for, and in bed themselves before you "relax". Can't tell you how many times a "ride home fell thru" at the last second at 11pm....or one of the kids had a flat....so many reason to stay close to fully clothed until everyone is home safe, and the dogs don't need to go outside.

Because of that, as well as times when the neighbors home alarm went off....random strange car down the road....etc I'm usually holstered with my EDC and jeans or shorts right up until it's time for bed
 
CasterTroy said:
Also...you'll learn real quick when the kids are old enough to be out with "Grandma" or friends, or get to be teens and driving......you typically don't strip down to boxers until they're all home and accounted for, and in bed themselves before you "relax". Can't tell you how many times a "ride home fell thru" at the last second at 11pm....or one of the kids had a flat....so many reason to stay close to fully clothed until everyone is home safe, and the dogs don't need to go outside.

Because of that, as well as times when the neighbors home alarm went off....random strange car down the road....etc I'm usually holstered with my EDC and jeans or shorts right up until it's time for bed
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Yeah...the wife keeps telling me that too. Apparently answering the door in your boxers is a faux pas or something. This adulting thing gets more difficult with a wife and kid.
 
(For me) Priorities and level of preparedness and security go up exponentially with family growth.

Once I got married, now I had a wife to be concerned with. It wasn't just me. Then, when we brought the boy home....everything changed! Now I had this little life I had to be ready to jump into action for.

UTfball68 said:
This adulting thing gets more difficult with a wife and kid.
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Things were so much simpler when I just had ME to be responsible for....now I look around for an adultier adult because I'm tired of adulting
 
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