Shitter/shower combo

CasterTroy

CasterTroy

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I know this is common in campers, but I have an architect that wants to take this concept into a permanent structure and is asking me the legality/legitimacy of it. I've done loads of assisted living, nursing, dialysis, cancer, treatment facilities, and never once had a toilet IN the shower stall.

My concerns are:
Toilet paper: do you use the wand as a bidet now? How do you keep the paper dry? 3 shells?
Hardware: everything will rust associated with the toilet unless it's SS
Why?: I mean, we ALL pee in the shower...and at camp shower facilities you're wearing shower shoes, so you just smash the turd down the drain hole and roll on....sheesh!

ICC/NCSBC nor commentary address this. And before I call in a favor to an inspector, I wondered if any of you ever ran into this

@shawn @trailhugger @rockcity

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So I guess the obvious question is - why?
You could keep the TP dry by having it in a box enclosure that is only open on the bottom, e.g. imagine a cube where only the bottom plane is open. If that is out of the spray line of the shower it should be ok.

All those pics seem fine to me. We Americans are used to showers being a little box w/ confined walls, but in a lot of countries it isn't that way, and it's just kind of out in the open like that.

I can't see any reason why code would be relevant at all. There's no issue here affecting flow or throughput.
 
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I've heard of that in apartments and hotels in Europe, but it sounds like a pretty odd idea unless you had no other choice for space. I came across that when I was researching curb-less shower design.

From what I remember the ones in Europe were mostly by necessity, as you would have a tub and a toilet in a common (small) room, but then the tub was removed and a shower retrofitted, etc.

Why you would do this on new construction, I have no idea.
 
RatLabGuy said:
So I guess the obvious question is - why?
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It COULD be for special needs kids. When I did Carter HS in WS we had a huge room where you could take a kid out of a hospital bed, put him in an elevated "tub" and there was a toilet in the same area (see below....similar, but ADA shr combo) but I'm fearful of THIS one, as she's a Hysterical society architect. The way she is talking I'm thinking it's one of the buildings downtown they're converting to condos, or retail.




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Did you see 10 Cloverfield lane? Toilet in shower, but again it was a space constraint issue.

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Aside from the obvious issues to resolve (TP staying dry, etc), so long as you have the required clearances on your toilet, etc, then there shouldn't be any issues.

I don't know of any specific building restrictions to combining the toilet with the shower.
 
rockcity said:
Aside from the obvious issues to resolve (TP staying dry, etc), so long as you have the required clearances on your toilet, etc, then there shouldn't be any issues.

I don't know of any specific building restrictions to combining the toilet with the shower.
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That's the conclusion I've reached. But just making sure no one in here has crossed that bridge and found out inspections dept had some lunch and learn about this and burned someone in the past (i.e. any and all changes in the field require a sealed bulletin dwg before inspector will even sign off on underground :rolleyes: )

UPDATE: Turns out is IS a space issue. Architect is renovating a hysterical dorm and has to bring it up to current ADA and number of fixture/student requirements.

This MAY actually be kind of interesting
 
This is a terrible idea. I like to sneak in the bathroom and take a putrid dump while my wife is showering, and it would totally ruin the element of surprise.
 
It actually might make sense if the toilet is within reach of a shower head.
Im thinking struggling patient makes mess using toilet and quick eaay clean up?
 
The more I think about it....the more I want to build a shop at my next house with a bathroom similar to CHANGE 162 above....where I can just take off my clothes, shit/shower in one motion, then bidet/flush and be done. Only needs a wall TV and a beer fridge for ultimate mancave
 
I know of a guy near Reidsville that put a commode about 3ft from his bed. The master bath was just to far to stumble to in the middle of the night.

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CasterTroy said:
I mean, we ALL pee in the shower...and at camp shower facilities you're wearing shower shoes, so you just smash the turd down the drain hole and roll on....sheesh!
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So you're the one who has been doing this at the campgrounds, lol.

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I already shave and brush my teeth in the shower....one more convenience would help...
 
I like the concept for efficiency's sake. My pop-up has a potty/shower combo and it's not bad. Cramped, yeah, but it's a full bathroom in a 12' camper! I could see these being very useful in design of guest rooms/houses or apartment upfits of old buildings. If you save 50% of the space usually occupied by a bathroom, then you can make another room that much bigger, or add another closet. Or, more likely scenario, save that 25sqft and apply it to making room for a few more units per floor. What's designed as a way to get one over on the consumer will suddenly become the next cosmopolitan trend!

I like the design on the first two, but the third is just a little too claustrophobic for me to consider for a master bath. I can just imagine myself getting all cleaned up to go out, getting dressed, then having to take a dump. Go to the shitter and everything is still wet from the shower. A guy my size can't avoid getting against the wall in a WC that cramped. That would be perfect for the snore box/guest cabin at my folk's mountain cabin. It's basically a 10x12 room with a closet and bed, but it could really use a bathroom to give guests a little privacy and keep them from having to walk up the hill to use the bathroom. We've considered gutting a camper to get the bathroom out of it for this purpose.
 
RatLabGuy said:
So I guess the obvious question is - why?
You could keep the TP dry by having it in a box enclosure that is only open on the bottom, e.g. imagine a cube where only the bottom plane is open. If that is out of the spray line of the shower it should be ok.
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I would think humidity would cause the TP to mold.
 
If you're doing a full renovation of the room though, and converting it into a wet room, why not arrange the shower and toilet such that a glass partition or something could divide the space and get rid of most of these concerns? A walk-in shower with a single glass divider and no door is very common and very simple.
 
Fabrik8 said:
If you're doing a full renovation of the room though, and converting it into a wet room, why not arrange the shower and toilet such that a glass partition or something could divide the space and get rid of most of these concerns? A walk-in shower with a single glass divider and no door is very common and very simple.
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Limited space dorm rooms in a hysterical building apparently
 
It's a proposal currently. If said architect is chosen, and they use me, then there will be pics. If not..I won't even know what building it is. But if it works out, I'll update this thread thru out the process
 
btw do they have a need for back up power :D
 
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