So who here is part or RAW? - Raleigh Area Wheelers

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ok guys I have to say they need to stop riding in illegal places but are you really going to call the cops on them if you don't like what they do ban them from this site but if yall start calling the cops over dome shit like that I will remove my self I have met a lot of good guys on here and never had any bad felling's toward any body but I hate a snitch and will not be associated with any body that would go out of there way to get somebody else in trouble im sure I will get flamed but if you don't like them ban them from here but don't call the law on them are we really that low
 
To answer you "karatejosh" I would personally have to say if they are on peoples personal facebook pages, taking their personal posts and information and posting that here on this public forum then yes, "they are that low".
 
I mean seriously call them out shun them call them stupid ban them I don't care they earned that by posting stupid stuff but keep the law out of it
 
It's not about being "low" or being a snitch. You are failing to realize that this is effecting us all. Yeah it's your business what you do on your time, but what you are doing makes everyone look bad.
 
karatejosh said:
I mean seriously call them out shun them call them stupid ban them I don't care they earned that by posting stupid stuff but keep the law out of it
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So breaking the law is ok? No one has to call the law out there, keep wheeling and drawing enough attention to that place and it will get local law enforcement attention without anyone mentioning it.
 
tagscook said:
To answer you "karatejosh" I would personally have to say if they are on peoples personal facebook pages, taking their personal posts and information and posting that here on this public forum then yes, "they are that low".
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Everything I have gathered from Facebook is public to for anybody to view, nothing taken from a personal hidden page. It is front and center to ANYBODY, you don't need to be friends with them. You put shit on the internet be ready for anybody to read it unless you have really good privacy. If you don't want to public to read it, don't post it. If I can find it, people that want to shut down our legal wheeling sites will find it too, and use it to prove a point. It HAS happened to a recent wheeling spot a few hours from us, it is closed for good due to people pulling stuff like this to use against us to show the sport in a bad light.

77GreenMachine said:
So breaking the law is ok? No one has to call the law out there, keep wheeling and drawing enough attention to that place and it will get local law enforcement attention without anyone mentioning it.
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Like GreenMachine said.... To take it a step father just to prove a point, so you saw somebody post about robbing a bank, but you just shouldn't say anything.
 
Breaking the law? Seriously? If you do, then own up to it. Don't try to start anything with a bunch of "hooligans" (REALLY? HOW OLD ARE WE AGAIN?) It is what it is. When I get caught speeding, I pay the speeding ticket. When I get caught illegal wheeling, I'll pay that ticket and it'll be no one's business but mine. This is getting a little ludicrous guys. RAW isn't the only group to do "illegal wheeling". Why not pick on them for a bit? OR just don't say anything at all ??
 
Exactly. So if someone is beating up old lady's playing that stupid knockout game you just bash them and say they are wrong, but don't get the law involved?

And don't even give me the whole "that's totally different" cause it's not. The actions of these people effect everyone, even nationwide in the big picture.
 
then don't give me the whole "guilty by association" BS. just because I got caught speeding in my bentley doesnt mean all bentley drivers speed and are bad, bad people.

You're being dramatic.
 
jdmchic00 said:
Breaking the law? Seriously? If you do, then own up to it. Don't try to start anything with a bunch of "hooligans" (REALLY? HOW OLD ARE WE AGAIN?) It is what it is. When I get caught speeding, I pay the speeding ticket. When I get caught illegal wheeling, I'll pay that ticket and it'll be no one's business but mine. This is getting a little ludicrous guys. RAW isn't the only group to do "illegal wheeling". Why not pick on them for a bit? OR just don't say anything at all ??
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You are hooligans. Idk how old you are but I would guess late teens to early 20s. Cause at that age you know everything and don't care about anyone. You will learn, the older you get the less you know and the more you listen.

As for picking on RAW? Well, currently you are the only group doing illegal activity and basically bragging about it. Claimed to have seen another club doing the same, proof was asked for so accountability could be held.
 
So if I say I'm going to BB&T at lunch right now are you going to assume I am going to rob it? That is basically what was done in the post that was on here earlier. I saw nothing on that post that said anything about where they were riding. I get the point y'all are trying to make here trust me, I think you're going about it in the wrong way. You had the persons post if you assumed they were doing something wrong how about talking to them directly? That seems like the grown up mature thing to do..to me anyway.
 
77GreenMachine said:
You are hooligans. Idk how old you are but I would guess late teens to early 20s. Cause at that age you know everything and don't care about anyone. You will learn, the older you get the less you know and the more you listen.

As for picking on RAW? Well, currently you are the only group doing illegal activity and basically bragging about it. Claimed to have seen another club doing the same, proof was asked for so accountability could be held.
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Okay.. you got me. I'm a hooligan. Darnit. I only work 60 hours a week to provide for my 2 children. My hooligan ways.... If getting a little mud on the tires is being bad, then label me as a bad person. I don't drink.. nor do drugs.. nor do anything other than being a good ass mom. A single one at that. So FUCK off. Guess what, I'm doing some illegal wheeling in the snow. You want my tag? I'll call it in for you. I have my big girl panties on. It'll be okay.

As for picking on RAW.. RAW isn't the only group doing illegal wheeling. I'm not going to call anyone out but seriously? I feel like my IQ has dropped a few since responding but this pisses me off. People who illegal wheel only do in fun.. not to hurt anyone. I promise you that. People like you who start shit.. you're the ones who fuck it up for all of us.

If you're going to point the finger.. point it at all.
 
i couldn't sit there and not say anything. you guys have more drama then a bunch of old women at a salon. and it's all empty. no substance whatsoever.. my momma told me if i didn't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all. So.. i'm shutting up.
 
I am locking this tread, it is no longer being productive to help our sport. And questions for the cnc guys, please contact live2run, he has contacted me to inform me of this.
 
A lot of things are fun, but affect a lot of other people so its best not to do them.

No one actually trying to pick on you or your club. We are trying hold you accountable for your actions. As we would for anyone doing this.
 
I'm glad you can consider yourself a saint then. No one is picking on me.. or MY club. Raw isn't my baby. And i respect your concern, however, feed it to all clubs that illegal wheel. There was a club recently who got in a ton of trouble by the coast. Go harp on them for awhile. Or don't. It's mean to do it.. it's pointless.. what has all this resolved? Absolutely nothing. We're a bunch of grown people, hiding behind a computer screen, bickering like children. It's dumb.
 
This thread should not just be locked it should be deleted especially since there is no proof of anyone doing any illegal activity. If I were the person whose FB page you took that from you'd have worse issues then an illegal wheeling ticket from the law or being dropped from a club. Legally you cannot publicly accuse someone of doing something illegal...defamation of character.
 
R.A.W.-Justin said:
You guys need to understand, we cannot control what our members do. We have told them the risk of "illegal wheeling" and that we do not approved, backing up those statements with reason. I ask you not to assume that all of our members are invovled in these issues. Just to inform cnc, I am also friends with some of your groups members on Facebook and they have done some illegal activity, but I don't pick at the fact that they do not follow your guidelines.

PS- Chris R is not an admin. He just started wheeling not to long ago, a newb if you will.
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WRONG! By letting them do what they want outside of club sponsored activities you're basically accepting their actions as your own. If they're a member of your club, they're a member all the time. Not when it's convenient or suits your needs. Boot their ass out or continue to sully your new club's name on here and the rest of the internet.
 
jdmchic00 said:
Okay.. you got me. I'm a hooligan. Darnit. I only work 60 hours a week to provide for my 2 children. My hooligan ways.... If getting a little mud on the tires is being bad, then label me as a bad person. I don't drink.. nor do drugs.. nor do anything other than being a good ass mom. A single one at that. So FUCK off. Guess what, I'm doing some illegal wheeling in the snow. You want my tag? I'll call it in for you. I have my big girl panties on. It'll be okay.

As for picking on RAW.. RAW isn't the only group doing illegal wheeling. I'm not going to call anyone out but seriously? I feel like my IQ has dropped a few since responding but this pisses me off. People who illegal wheel only do in fun.. not to hurt anyone. I promise you that. People like you who start shit.. you're the ones who fuck it up for all of us.

If you're going to point the finger.. point it at all.
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