Support of law enforcement

K9guy

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Please tell me we still have support for law enforcement?
And yes it’s because I’m am , and proud to be .

As we I mean Americans.
There are bad apples in every profession and I do not agree with what happen, but please show your support for the locals that Keep the peace.
 
I have never had a bad experience with the police, and I support them. I had numerous run-ins with the police when I was younger for riding my dirt bike where I wasn't supposed to be, and they were always nice.
 
The support is still there. Looking at the current issues is definitely a gut check for departments.

The backlash from incidents is also having and will have an unfair effect on the vast majority of police officers who put themselves out there everyday and respond and deal with people during what is often the worst day of their lives. People calling to disband police forces over this is comparable to saying shut down the hospital due to a malpractice case.
 
An officer buddy of mine that serves in the metro DC area said this yesterday about defunding the police

People call 911 when their 12yo refuses to go to school.

People call 911 when their cable goes out.

People call 911 when the neighbor violates an HOA rule.

People call 911 when they discover a bag of garbage that is particularly odiferous in the dumpster.

People call 911 when when the McDonalds employee gets their food order wrong.

People call 911 when their 30yo son/daughter who has been seeing a psychiatrist for 20 years acts up and throws shit around the house and they want the 23yo high school graduate cop earning $35k/yr to fix the mentally unstable subject in the 10 seconds he has before a baseball bat is swung at his head and then they blame the cop when shit goes pear shaped.

So yeah..... society has proven very capable of taking care of their own shit so far.​

There's bad apples, HELL, bad DEPARTMENTS. But like anything humans touch, there will be, because we ARE human, and flawed.

I personally know more than 2 dozen officers. Good friends with more than a dozen. None of which I would consider anything but genuinely great individuals that HAPPEN to be Police/Sheriff/Troopers. The silly/stupid stories make you laugh. The ones where a guy has bashed his 4yr olds head in..not so much. It's a job few want, or would ever want the responsibility for, but as Todd said above, one MANY people overly depend on. Whether they realize it or not. WITHOUT L.E. presence you would have constant looting, and "PURGE" situations. Without the threat of an LEO near, just imagine what these animals would be capable of.


You're dealing with backlash from something you had nothing to do with. And with the current narrative, I think that's where the movement wants you to be. They want you to feel what it's like to be guilty by association. I.E. Want you to know how it feels to be black, and NOT guilty of what you're accused of because of the way you look (in uniform)

Is it fair? Hell no! But that's the point. Problem is, this won't change anything. The media will hyperfocus on some new subject to change up the narrative after this one loses steam. But for now. You're under the microscope. You can be be bitter and angry, or use it to grow and find a new perspective.

But no...you've not lost support. What you're seeing is misplaced frustration being taken out on a very broad spectrum because of the actions of a few. Again...what they're trying to highlight about "Being Black"
 
I posted last night on a FB page, on defunding, & Charlotte City Council, voting to eliminate any & all tear gas or chemical deterrents, in the Charlotte Force. They pulled the funding for any such purchases! My question was, so the next time the Bad guy barricades himself in a building or house, how do you pose to get that person out? Going to Wait them out, days or weeks? Set fire? Go in with guns Blazing? "Look before you Leap"!
 
K9guy said:
Please tell me we still have support for law enforcement?
And yes it’s because I’m am , and proud to be .

As we I mean Americans.
There are bad apples in every profession and I do not agree with what happen, but please show your support for the locals that Keep the peace.
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I support the Police and have for a while (not so much back 20yrs ago when I was being a ......lol)
What I DON"T support about the police is: Them letting these damn heathens tear up the cities and streets and homes and businesses and even letting these terrorists degrade them as officers of the law...that's total bull sh*t. Stand up and fight .....yeah to me those cops that let these punks steal their cruisers, beat them, degrade them and everything else ought to be ashamed of themselves to be wearing a badge that is supposed to stand for justice and protection and service!! WTH, their not protecting squat, including themselves....bunch a pansies. Where's the real cops?...I know, they're afraid to get in trouble just like the average american people cause of the law? screw the law, YOU are the law!!! The millions of Armed People in this country ARE the Law!!! but cops and people have gotten lazy and scared and will someday be why our freedom will be taken from us, our homes, our guns, our rights cause we sit back and watch looters/rioters/terrorists take charge in our streets and ruin what everyone works so hard for....all cause we afraid of the law???? screw the dam law and take charge against these dam waste of society punks and put them in their place.
Ok Rant over, sorry. I support the good cops
 
I support LEO, they, have a job that can be rewarding but has become more and more a ticking time bomb, you say or do the wrong thing in an situation where split second could mean the end of your career or worse death. Under paid underappreciated and risking everything everyday they are on the job. This PC crap and brutality has gone too far, yes there are needs for varying uses of force even deadly. An officer should not have be afraid to make the wrong decision about applying reasonable force to any person, white Hispanic, or black. They are there to enforce the law and if you are abiding there shouldn't be any problem. I've had the "talk" with my son, respect any authority do as they say, if you are in the wrong you will be accepting the responsibility. No need to be confrontational in any way.
Respect the uniform respect the law you should be fine!

This de-funding shit, is crazy. What do people thing is going to happen when the police don't have the resources to do their job. Response time will drastically be longer if at all, who is going to respond to the break in when they are under staffed and under equipped. Crime rate and homicide would skyrocket! This is one of the dumbest things that has come from the left that I have seen/heard.

I thank and support law enforcement, first responders and our troops, all their sacrifices are what makes America a great place to live.:usa:
 
I heard a story about a neighborhood watch in Minneapolis that said they "had helped motorists who ran out of gas" and "had those black people called the police their lives would have been in danger".

Defund the police, let ordinary citizens help citizens, and when someone good-doer gets stuffed in a trunk and hauled away.....who are you going to call? As @CasterTroy said, there are calls the average citizen isn't remotely equipped mentally or physically to deal with, when the panic lessens and the news cycle moves on hopefully cooler heads prevail.

I support the people who do a job I would be hard pressed to last a week in!
 
I hold police officers in the same regard and reverence as military troops. I don't condone the same course of action or tactics and in no way am I saying the police should be militarized, but they should be respected. I've had a bad experience or two with the police when you cross the path of an officer with a chip on his shoulder and I've had great experiences when I've been in the wrong and I've since bought burgers and doughnuts for the officers that didn't shoot me with my gun drawn as they were entering my home to inspect the same break in I was. Like in any profession, there are good candidates and there are bad ones and there are ones that turn bad over time, doesn't make it right, but I prefer to look at the bigger picture. Proof of that is, look at how many police interactions there are on a daily basis that go off without a hitch, compared to the tragedies. If you're looking for bad you can find it...but it's just as easy to look for the good.

What I find super sad, buddy of mine, played high school ball against, he was a linebacker at ECU a decade ago...came back home, has essentially been heralded a 'hero' in the lower income part of town, where he grew up. He's an officer with the local PD, was making huge strides improving that area with outreach as an officer, we've done free youth football camps together, he's set up 'gaming tournaments', etc etc...even went semi-viral a couple months back for patching a kids bike tire, went back a couple days later, kids bike was still falling apart, so he dug in to his own pocket and bought the kid a brand new bike. In turn he decided he wanted to head up a donation fund from the PD for the kids in that district for things like that. None of that did or is going to make the news. The second these riots and protests started and he had to do his job, the love and embrace for him was gone, just like that. He went from hero to traitor...it's been a long time since I've consoled a sobbing man, I'm not sure I've ever seen someone so broken. That's the sort of stuff I don't get in this world, bad things happen, bad people are out there, life isn't fair, but an entire community turning their back on someone like that...I just don't get it.
 
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Awesome responses.
I appreciate you guys and honesty, it’s becoming harder to do this job by the hour, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. What happens next ? No one wants this job anymore and the ones who do take don’t stick around. Who knows, keep your head on a swivel and stay safe.
 
What's next is hopefully we see it played out in a small venue like Minneapolis and we see Minneapolis turn into Detroit in less than a year. And with luck, someone will cover this events and it won't infect the rest of the country. Because at this point you're going to start seeing a mass Exodus of officers either retiring early or GTFO all together because it certainly isn't worth the headache for the pay
 
I support police in general. I don't support the us vs them culture I've seen growing in recent years. I don't support excusing the profession as a whole for the few bad apples. A bad apple in that profession can take my assets, dog, freedom, family, life depending on the situation. That is inexcusable, and something must be done. I don't support the war on drugs. It doesn't work just like prohibition didn't work. I don't support civil asset forfeiture without a conviction, this is sidestepping due process. I don't support police wielding military hardware without being trained to adhere to military rules of engagement. There's some overzealous examples out there (on both sides of the conversation) that are racing us all to the bottom.

I remember being a kid interacting with police and feeling respect flowing both ways, positive interaction. Interaction in recent years, cops have felt much more pointed and ego driven. This isn't the way to coexist. I've had friends from high school become cops, and have witnessed them become more racist and more guilt presuming as the years went by, to the point we could not be friends any more. This is a recipe for failure. Police need to remember they're people just like anyone else.

It's not a job I would ever want to do, so good on those who do it. :beer:
 
Im a bouncer at a fairly rowdy bar (when cooper isnt shutting us down). we hire police to work in tandem with us on weekends. There have been times when quite literally, my life has been in the hands of those officers. You can bet you wont hear anything but support come from me!

Just observing them on our few feet of sidewalk and seeing how the public treat them and talk to them.... even when the officers are minding their own business, the amount of reserve, tolerance and self control the officers show is impressive. When i think that there is an entire city out there treating them like this day in and day out..... is there any wonder that once in a while an officer goes off spec?
 
One thing that I see in public service jobs is that it is incredibly hard to fire people. The police office in minn. sounded like he needed to be gone for a while. But is still in a job. Same goes for teachers and other .gov jobs. We keep too many bad people around. If we are going to get better we need to cut the 20% that are doing 80% of the stupid shit. We can’t keep covering for others mistakes.
 
I live in a somewhat of small town, our officers are friends, parents, neighbors, scout leaders. I respect their job, it's a hard thing to do. To see the disrespect that some people are showing, it makes me sad and mad at the same time. These people are putting their lives on the line for others!

The protests IMO aren't without reason (civil rights movement), we are a land of immigrants!

There are better ways to combat injustice than burning down and destroying society.

I don't want to sit in the back of the bus, unless I want too.
 
Here i go again.
I do not fear the police, yet i fear a police state.
HUGE difference. The Minneapolis cop was flat ass wrong. Dude was subdued and couldn't breathe.
My opinion, and i have NO LEO training.
Remember getting into a fight in school?
You done whupped the dudes ass and have him face down on the ground.
You stop and ask if he's had enough.
Then tell him, "i'm gonna let you up one time, if you come up swinging i'll beat your ass into the ground"
George Floyd never got that chance.
Most LEO's i know are good folks who chose the profession to protect and serve.
Some are bad apples and should be held accountable for their actions.
Just sayin....
Flame suit is on, along with a bulletproof bra and panties.
Flame away my Bitches!

'Dre out...
 
I've never had a bad run in with the police. maybe its the white privilege i got. There's been several times i was way in the wrong and didn't get in near the trouble because being polite goes a long way.
i've been pulled over because "i looked like someone that might be up to no good" and i was two young to really know my rights and had all my duffel bags thrown out on the ground and truck searched looking for drugs and stolen goods. only for them to find none and then wright me a bunch of bogus tickets. but i knew not to argue id have my day.
i was pulled over for going well over 100 on a bike on a two lane i could have out ran the cop on but he asked why i stopped and i told him whats the point if i ran you'd just keep calling cops in until i had no where to go. he laughed shook my hand and told me to slow the hell down.
i dont understand trying to run or fight a cop. it has never made since to me you might win one on one, but there is never just one for long.

i dont think what was done was right, but what is happening now isnt either.
 
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