The next Cummins... Nissan Titan XD.

we sat in one in Miami in January.

Nice ass truck..

The 5.0 V8 has been out a few years in the industrial market. We were starting to roll it out when I left Cummins in '13. It was incredibly fuel efficient but "underpowered" from a typical Cummins design standpoint. Not that it will seem that way at all in this application. But you wont wanna turn these up like a 5.9....
 
Blaze said:
Holy shit that truck is fucking ugly.
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From the picture, it looks like it comes from the factory with Carolina Squat built in, flat-biller tow mirrors and dog-chain capable tow hooks up front. All it's missing is a couple Metal Mulisha stickers and you are good to go cruising the boulevards of Myrtle Beach looking to impress all the 15 year old girls you can find.
 
ManglerYJ said:
From the picture, it looks like it comes from the factory with Carolina Squat built in, flat-biller tow mirrors and dog-chain capable tow hooks up front. All it's missing is a couple Metal Mulisha stickers and you are good to go cruising the boulevards of Myrtle Beach looking to impress all the 15 year old girls you can find.
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not sure which pictures you're referring to but the ones here
Car and Driver
look pretty normal to me.

Looks like the top of the hood line is substantially higher than the bed sides, that dosn't help w/ the squat look.
I personally don't like this trend of truck front ends getting continually bigger and squarer, seems like it's getting harder to see around the hood (or for us smaller guys, get to things under it)
 
A good bet is that square fronts have something to do with faster assembly? Makes it to where even a robot can do it...
 
I sat in one at the auto show in Raleigh. Almost 67k fully loaded there. It was really nice, inside though. I just can't justify spending that much on a car.
 
Went and looked at one of these the other day at the dealership. Interior is very nice, lots of nice features overall on the truck (bed lighting, bumper step, etc). Don't particularly like the frontend cosmetics, but the rest of it looks really good. However, I'm hearing that the fuel economy is in the mid-teens empty, so really not very good. I certainly hope once they are "broken in" it gets over 20mpg highway.
 
If its anything like the G drive version, it was the only engine I ever encountered that got better fuel economy at 50% load than at 0%.
Something to do with some over complicated overfueling to reduce emissions in low load environments.
 
Fabrik8 said:
I hope they get rid of the wood dash crap from those pictures. It's 2016, and it's a pickup.
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Land Surveyors are still pissed at the direction the suburban went...and how the trooper disappeared all together. Trucks were the NEXT victims after they fell into the hands of the yuppie elite. You now have to buy a WT edition in WHITE to get a regular "truck"
 
RatLabGuy said:
not sure which pictures you're referring to but the ones here
Car and Driver
look pretty normal to me.

Looks like the top of the hood line is substantially higher than the bed sides, that dosn't help w/ the squat look.
I personally don't like this trend of truck front ends getting continually bigger and squarer, seems like it's getting harder to see around the hood (or for us smaller guys, get to things under it)
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I was looking at the tallow one in the article here: 2016 Nissan Titan XD: Ready to Shake Up the Light-Duty Truck World - Official Photos and Info

Must just be the camera angle that made the back look lower than the front.


Although I have to say this available feature makes the truck about as gay-friendly as Ford's Trailer Backup Assist:

Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) with Easy-Fill Tire Alert
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TPMS lets you know when a tire is low. And Easy-Fill Tire Alert takes the guesswork out of filling your tires, with a beep of the horn when you’ve reached the correct pressure. [*]

Because we all know how confusing using a tire pressure gauge can be....
 
ManglerYJ said:
Although I have to say this available feature makes the truck about as gay-friendly as Ford's Trailer Backup Assist:

Tire Pressure Monitoring System (TPMS) with Easy-Fill Tire Alert
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TPMS lets you know when a tire is low. And Easy-Fill Tire Alert takes the guesswork out of filling your tires, with a beep of the horn when you’ve reached the correct pressure. [*]

Because we all know how confusing using a tire pressure gauge can be....
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I'm not trusting my tire pressure to the accuracy of a cheap digital sensor. My reported pressures for two or three tires are usually off 1-1.5 psi (up or down) from my mechanical race gauge. Fill it until the horn beeps is not good enough, especially because it lets you fill hot tires as well. I know passenger tires aren't very critical, but if you're going to do something as simple as tire inflation, do it the proper way with a good gauge.
 
So that makes Dodge and Nissan with half ton diesels. Am I missing anyone?
 
Fabrik8 said:
I'm not trusting my tire pressure to the accuracy of a cheap digital sensor. My reported pressures for two or three tires are usually off 1-1.5 psi (up or down) from my mechanical race gauge. Fill it until the horn beeps is not good enough, especially because it lets you fill hot tires as well. I know passenger tires aren't very critical, but if you're going to do something as simple as tire inflation, do it the proper way with a good gauge.
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I've had two vehicles that had tire pressure monitor systems and both seemed to be very sensitive to drastic temperature changes like we see in NC (below 32 degrees in the morning and 50-60 by mid day). The system would get tricked and would take a little while to adjust to the changes. After too many times of the system "crying wolf" the other day I finally checked my wife's Sienna tires and found that there was in fact a nail in one. I may have been able to save the tire if it weren't for the system crying wolf so many times.
 
ManglerYJ said:
I've had two vehicles that had tire pressure monitor systems and both seemed to be very sensitive to drastic temperature changes like we see in NC (below 32 degrees in the morning and 50-60 by mid day). The system would get tricked and would take a little while to adjust to the changes. After too many times of the system "crying wolf" the other day I finally checked my wife's Sienna tires and found that there was in fact a nail in one. I may have been able to save the tire if it weren't for the system crying wolf so many times.
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Standard tpms doesn't sample very fast and also takes a while to average up or down to a different value to make perceived pressure changes smooth instead of bouncing all around.

You will see a few psi difference when the temp swing is that large though, and that gets worse depending on the amount of water vapor in the tire air. That's just the laws of physics. Some systems are a lot more sensitive with their low pressure alarms and their detection logic though. I frequently drive low-end rental cars with that problem. If you're alreadyon the low edge of what pressure should be (maintain your tire pressure!) and then it gets quite cold overnight, it'll trigger stuff on the poorly engineered tpms systems. The cars with just idiot lights and alarms are usually the worst for that, and the cars with actual 4 corner pressure readouts are usually the best at non false triggering. It's all about the system cost....
 
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ManglerYJ said:
I've had two vehicles that had tire pressure monitor systems and both seemed to be very sensitive to drastic temperature changes like we see in NC (below 32 degrees in the morning and 50-60 by mid day). The system would get tricked and would take a little while to adjust to the changes. After too many times of the system "crying wolf" the other day I finally checked my wife's Sienna tires and found that there was in fact a nail in one. I may have been able to save the tire if it weren't for the system crying wolf so many times.
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Yeah we refer to the TPMS light in my wife's car as the outside temp sensor. Every time the temp changes, it goes off.
 
ghost said:
So that makes Dodge and Nissan with half ton diesels. Am I missing anyone?
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Nissan is considered a 5/8 ton FWIW...
Ford is supposed to be coming out with a diesel F150 in 2017.
Chevy has the Colorado/GMC Canyon with a 2.8L Duramax.
 
My Dealer Friend says the big 3 will all have new design trucks for 17. He's waiting to see what they look like, before buying a new one. He also says the Nissan w Cummins, weighs over 7k, empty! So yes, it looks like a 2000 model Ford, less power than the eco-Dodge, & 1/2 the fuel mileage. Guess he missed the 5/8 ton part.
 
rodney eppes said:
So yes, it looks like a 2000 model Ford, less power than the eco-Dodge, & 1/2 the fuel mileage. Guess he missed the 5/8 ton part.
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Except it's not less power than the eco-Dodge...
Ram 1500 3.0 is 240hp/320ftlbs
Titan XD 5.0 is 310hp/555ftlbs
 
rodney eppes said:
My Dealer Friend says the big 3 will all have new design trucks for 17. He's waiting to see what they look like, before buying a new one. He also says the Nissan w Cummins, weighs over 7k, empty! So yes, it looks like a 2000 model Ford, less power than the eco-Dodge, & 1/2 the fuel mileage. Guess he missed the 5/8 ton part.
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Ford just re designed for 15. They arent doing a complete overhaul 2 years later. No way.
Im not sure of the curb weight but 7k empty wouldnt surprise me. My Tundra was listed as 5,900 on the sticker but the 2 trips Ive made to the scrap yard in it it weighed closer to 6,500 without my fat ass in it.

My 07 F250 was 7,800
 
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