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Right? I'm all about preparedness, but I'm also completely against the attention and normalizing it.Yeah, I'm really on the fence about doing that.
Right? I'm all about preparedness, but I'm also completely against the attention and normalizing it.Yeah, I'm really on the fence about doing that.
I used to catch the school bus with my 12 gauge shot gun and get a ride to the head of the holler and get off and go hunting all day and if i got back in time i would catch it and get a ride back home in the evening with a bunch of squirrels. Done that for a few years.Yeah man, that’s a hard one. I can remember umpteen of my closest friend who had XYZ rifle, pistol, or shotgun depending on the season in the cab of their truck and laid across the back seat of their car. It really is just mind blowing.
I think this is a great idea. We had a guy a while back that had some sort of business that developed this film that would be installed on every window and window in every door that would keep the person trying to get through busy for about 3-4 minutes before they would be able to get through them. I'm guessing it didn't work out as I saw him after that and he no longer has the business.I’ve pondered a security business thats strictly school security. I highly doubt the state reps would bite on it, but something completely separate from school resource officers. They can handle smoking in the bathroom, breaking up fights, and shitty parents. The private security would handle entrances, roving patrols, and active shooter scenarios God forbid. It would be hard to staff though. Getting the right people vetted and trained to a hostage rescue level would take a while. If people would vote to raise their property taxes by a few bucks state wide , it could potentially pay for it. I’m thinking big picture, every public school in the state. Private schools would have to up tuition to cover it I guess. Just some beer drinking, late night thoughts I do to myself.
You’re right. Inside threats are almost impossible to defend. Metal detectors at every entrance is a start, but turns into an inconvenience when kids are tardy and every bag and person gets searched. A few complaints and they get removed. Hostage rescue training along with breaching would be something each guy would have to be proficient at. We’d need trading facilities along with enough people to keep on work/training rotation. That’s not something you can train once a year on. I’m thinking at a minimum quarterly for a solid 5 days and at least a day every two weeks at the range. It would be expensive and a massive operation. Thousands of people would be employed, which isn’t a bad thing. You’d need admins, logistics, hazmat, medics, the list just goes on. It’s be a small armyI think this is a great idea. We had a guy a while back that had some sort of business that developed this film that would be installed on every window and window in every door that would keep the person trying to get through busy for about 3-4 minutes before they would be able to get through them. I'm guessing it didn't work out as I saw him after that and he no longer has the business.
I guess the problem is to is that sometimes the shooters are from within, so they are already in the school and have a blueprint to the active shooter drills.
And it would be an awesome idea! I think one of the biggest hurdles would be the red tape of a civi company working in a .gov sector and then you get into bidding and XYZ which is one of the biggest hiccups in the .gov procurement/hiring process. I’m sure you know this though give your time in the “Boy Scouts” lolYou’re right. Inside threats are almost impossible to defend. Metal detectors at every entrance is a start, but turns into an inconvenience when kids are tardy and every bag and person gets searched. A few complaints and they get removed. Hostage rescue training along with breaching would be something each guy would have to be proficient at. We’d need trading facilities along with enough people to keep on work/training rotation. That’s not something you can train once a year on. I’m thinking at a minimum quarterly for a solid 5 days and at least a day every two weeks at the range. It would be expensive and a massive operation. Thousands of people would be employed, which isn’t a bad thing. You’d need admins, logistics, hazmat, medics, the list just goes on. It’s be a small army
Where is he going to school? I love watching college wrestling. A friend of mines daughter was a manager for NC State for the last 4 years. I would go with him to the matches.My son, our youngest, we moved into college recently. House is way too quiet. Looking forward to seeing him wrestle in college, though, although probably not much as a freshman, lol.
Boy you ain’t lying. Contracting for big gov is just plain stupid. You’d almost need it to be a state entity to avoid the contract/bidding fiascos. It would get all shitty’d up though once it left the private sector and fell under big brother.And it would be an awesome idea! I think one of the biggest hurdles would be the red tape of a civi company working in a .gov sector and then you get into bidding and XYZ which is one of the biggest hiccups in the .gov procurement/hiring process. I’m sure you know this though give your time in the “Boy Scouts” lol
And very expensive.It’s be a small army
Yep. It’d be a monster to fund.And very expensive.
Good luck finding the funding the cover it in anywhere but the richest neighborhoods.
it would be expensive and a massive operation. Thousands of people would be employed, which isn’t a bad thing.
I’ve pondered a security business thats strictly school security. I highly doubt the state reps would bite on it, but something completely separate from school resource officers. They can handle smoking in the bathroom, breaking up fights, and shitty parents. The private security would handle entrances, roving patrols, and active shooter scenarios God forbid. It would be hard to staff though. Getting the right people vetted and trained to a hostage rescue level would take a while. If people would vote to raise their property taxes by a few bucks state wide , it could potentially pay for it. I’m thinking big picture, every public school in the state. Private schools would have to up tuition to cover it I guess. Just some beer drinking, late night thoughts I do to myself.
You’re absolutely correct. It would be a very hard sell. It would be borderline militant and operating within blurry lines. You’re also right about the backlash. It would be bad even if it was justified. It’d be a whole different nightmare if an employee made a mistake. The earth would get sued along with someone’s head having to roll. It’s a catch 22. You want your kids safe, but at what cost? Unfortunately those situations are 100% reactive with very little proactive aside from a few resource officers and a local SRT team that’s 20 or more minutes away depending on the size of your city. Might just have Andy and Barney showing up if you’re in the sticks.To be clear, not necessarily against this in any way, but it sounds like a Blackwater outfit for middle schools. I am guessing parents/community will struggle to get comfortable with this. Again, I think we might be there or close but this would be hard to accept for most soccer moms is my guess. I'm also thinking how the first incident plays out when they put 30 rds in some 15 year old (that was the greatest kid ever on the news even though he has a facespace full of hate rants etc). There would be no win for the 'company'. When you stop something and kill the bastard it's heavy handed and you should have offered the troubled youth with 7 guns and full body armor a free big mac to come out and talk to the guidance counselor and if you don't drop the little fuck like you shold, he kills 30 kids and that's a shit show. Sigh.....
Maybe he's just the decoy.So back at our old church, they had a city police officer that would stand outside the front door every Sunday, plain sight from 3 directions in the parking lot. I thought that was the dumbest thing ever. I can’t think of an easier way to identify and take out the “defense”.
Maybe he's just the decoy.
Queens University in Charlotte.Where is he going to school? I love watching college wrestling. A friend of mines daughter was a manager for NC State for the last 4 years. I would go with him to the matches.
Tangently related..... My oldest has decided that the only acceptable place to pee, is the tree in the front yard. That's fine and dandy. He's 4 so you can just tell him to go and come back when he's done..... Until he has to pee at midnight and insists he has to pee on the damn tree!