The walking dead

Episode 2 of FTWD was better than 1, at least stuff is starting to happen and this wasn't just another "plot building" episode.
 
oscar80 said:
The zombies are fresh.
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I think what FTWD has going for it is that you know what is generally coming, and are expecting all hell to break loose. That really adds to the suspenseful moments.
I'd bet that somebody who had not seen the original or knew anything about the whole story would find it pretty boring and confusing thus far.
 
I think there is a certain subtle "realism" I'm catching in FTWD that I haven't really seen in TWD. I like some of the comments that the characters have made like, "When civilization ends, it ends fast" and how it ties to the police officer abusing his power and taking all the water for himself, but also the naivety of the school official to think that the "authorities" would have said something if this were a zombie apocalypse.

I do wonder what happened to the stash of canned food that the fat kid and the guidance counselor wheeled through the high school but left behind after she offed the principle and then casually walked out to her car.
 
I like the difference of mindset in FTWD characters vs TWD characters. Rick and gang are more worried about people than the dead. to see another dead is "Oh, another, here stick 'em in the head and walk on." while on FTWD, it's compete chaos and confusion.
 
mbalbritton said:
I like the difference of mindset in FTWD characters vs TWD characters. Rick and gang are more worried about people than the dead. to see another dead is "Oh, another, here stick 'em in the head and walk on." while on FTWD, it's compete chaos and confusion.
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TWD was like that in the early seasons when the focus was more about the walkers and general survival. Now its all about trying to build alliances and communities. That's where I've lost some interest in it.
 
ManglerYJ said:
I do wonder what happened to the stash of canned food that the fat kid and the guidance counselor wheeled through the high school but left behind after she offed the principle and then casually walked out to her car.
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that really bothered me too - dude went through a lot of trouble to get all that food, then just abandoned it?
I'll bet dollars to donuts we see that kid again.
 
For me the big draw of TWD season 1 was the realism and the option for me to think "what would i do in that situation?" the focus started with one character and you were pulled into his shoes rather easily. as the season developed you were drawn into the development of the story line as new characters entered the fold.


I find it a bit difficult to put myself in the shoes of a heroin addict. having never done the substance before i dont know what kind of rationale one would have. And this guy clearly already has emotional and psychological issues. And this seems to be a trend with all of the characters in episode 1 of FTWD. Everyone seems to be starting out with different levels of "fucked upness"

TWD carried the theme of Good Triumphs Over Evil. We all got behind Rick because he was a good guy, a super hero in his own right. A man who stood on morals and values and rallied those around him to that purpose.

Just from watching Ep.1 of FTWD i dont see that dynamic. It looks like the driving force of the show is going to be a play on the emotions of the viewers. they've set up a sad back story so that we feel sorry for Travis. Now, i havent seen ep. 2 yet, for all i know Travis could be dead as im typing this, but im willing to bet the series is going to wrap around him. I think we'll see more emotional roller coaster than action out of this series.
 
Reid said:
For me the big draw of TWD season 1 was the realism and the option for me to think "what would i do in that situation?" the focus started with one character and you were pulled into his shoes rather easily. as the season developed you were drawn into the development of the story line as new characters entered the fold.


I find it a bit difficult to put myself in the shoes of a heroin addict. having never done the substance before i dont know what kind of rationale one would have. And this guy clearly already has emotional and psychological issues. And this seems to be a trend with all of the characters in episode 1 of FTWD. Everyone seems to be starting out with different levels of "fucked upness"

TWD carried the theme of Good Triumphs Over Evil. We all got behind Rick because he was a good guy, a super hero in his own right. A man who stood on morals and values and rallied those around him to that purpose.

Just from watching Ep.1 of FTWD i dont see that dynamic. It looks like the driving force of the show is going to be a play on the emotions of the viewers. they've set up a sad back story so that we feel sorry for Travis. Now, i havent seen ep. 2 yet, for all i know Travis could be dead as im typing this, but im willing to bet the series is going to wrap around him. I think we'll see more emotional roller coaster than action out of this series.
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Ep 2 develops the other characters more, you can see it'll be about the whole family dynamic, and how their somewhat dysfunctional family fucked-upness plays into how they react to everything going sideways.
 
Really? I actually thought it was getting better. At least more suspenseful moments
 
Kirkman said:
My wife just had a good point. If they live in the same century as us then why don't they know that they are zombies after all the movies and they aren't sick.
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How about... b/c nobody actually expects that shit to happen?

The thing that bothers me is that in TWD, it wasn't until later after it had progressed awhile that they realized that people became Zombified just form dying and didn't have to be bitten, like that was big deal part of the plot. Yet in this it's clear that's already in effect.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Really? I actually thought it was getting better. At least more suspenseful moments
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I just can't get over how incredibly stupid they are. The zombie is in his house trying to eat him and he's like "Bob, lets talk about this. You're sick, you need help."

And I can't relate to, and have no sympathy for the heroin addict guy AT ALL. He needs to go.
 
I don't know about y'all, but if society collapses to that point and I'm still around I'm capping fools first and asking questions later. In the event y'all run into me in the apocalypse, don't grunt, or hiss, or wheeze. You probably shouldn't even cough, because homie don't play that.
 
13bullets said:
I just can't get over how incredibly stupid they are. The zombie is in his house trying to eat him and he's like "Bob, lets talk about this. You're sick, you need help."

And I can't relate to, and have no sympathy for the heroin addict guy AT ALL. He needs to go.
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Keep in mind he doesn't know WTF is going on. We have the benefit of having seen the future and knowing it all. Up to this point he's just seen the one drug dealer kid Zombified but then didn't know what was up.
 
Kirkman said:
So you all are agreeing that in their world there has never been a Hollywood movie about zombies?
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No, I'm saying that in their world... just like ours... people know that movies are bullshit stuff that people make up to be entertaining, and not science or fact. Thus people acting weird would be expected to be some kind of illness or not understood and taken like to do everything else - with lots of questions and disbelief.
 
13bullets said:
I just can't get over how incredibly stupid they are. The zombie is in his house trying to eat him and he's like "Bob, lets talk about this. You're sick, you need help."

And I can't relate to, and have no sympathy for the heroin addict guy AT ALL. He needs to go.
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Also, note that he is the only one that seems to both recognize what is going on AND willing to admit it.
 
cognitive dissonance.

when shit is so bad your brain refuses to accept that its real. You know, like when terrorist are at war with your country and you are surrounded by terror attacks, but every one keeps talking about gun control and workplace violence and your over here like "WHAT THE FUCK JUST KILL THE TERRORISTS!"

yeah, that but with zombies.
 
Kirkman said:
That's just called being taught that we should all forgive, forget, and the government is always here to help the sheeple.
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This.... the main character (pansy teacher dude with the old Ford truck) keeps thinking that the authorities will handle it and it's just a "bug going around" believes that they are better off now that the National Guard is there to control things when the barber dude (who actually has been through something like this as alluded to by his daughter asking about all their family being buried in El Salvador and he knows the only way to get rid of this type of thing is to burn the bodies) says that now that they are there, it will just get worse.
 
wait...so what you are saying is......

the disease was brought in over the border by illegal immigrants?
 
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