Vaping

i am glad you think my post was just about you , to be honest i didn't read anything you posted . i guess let me look at what you said . well nothing you posted was even addressed in my statement , With that I assume you are trolling or didn't understand my post . but for me being bored at work I will play .
guess the small penis struck home since you decided to make a point based off it , i am sorry might be cause of beer ?
you referring to a disease someone is born with shows your your complete lack of research before you keyboard cowboy up.
 
So a disease someone is born with couldn't be caused by a contributing parent with some type of health issue? Not sure I still follow you. We still do not have hard evidence for the cause of something like Autism yet but some speculation comes down to vaccines whether it be the parent or at the time of birth. Many people have absolutely no idea what is in a vaccine and how harmful they are yet society accepts them readily which is starting to become an apparent cause of health issues. The point is that it's probably better to be safe than sorry with anything you put in the body and an e-cig may as well be just as bad as a normal cigarette all things considered.

Please, if you plan on speaking to me in a condiscending message or be obsessed with my small penis, try to use proper capitalization and punctuation ;)
 
Skinny said:
So a disease someone is born with couldn't be caused by a contributing parent with some type of health issue? Not sure I still follow you. We still do not have hard evidence for the cause of something like Autism yet but some speculation comes down to vaccines whether it be the parent or at the time of birth. Many people have absolutely no idea what is in a vaccine and how harmful they are yet society accepts them readily which is starting to become an apparent cause of health issues. The point is that it's probably better to be safe than sorry with anything you put in the body and an e-cig may as well be just as bad as a normal cigarette all things considered.

Please, if you plan on speaking to me in a condiscending message or be obsessed with my small penis, try to use proper capitalization and punctuation ;)
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I have no idea who you are even talking to, this has gone waaay off topic and clearly taken too personal for some reason I completely don't understand.

But since you brought it up... there still is NO real scientific proof that vaccines (when used properly) cause any long-term health harm... or autism... in any way, form, or fashion. Not passed down by parents, not through kids. Your key word there is "speculation".
You talk as though people just make and sell things without any technical understanding of what they are making, how it affects people, or review by minor little things like... the FDA.
The science and engineering of how e-cigs work is pretty clear, and simple. You are not putting anything in your body that you don't also get from a real cigarette... but you also avoid all the other bad shit.
 
Let's just all light up some dabs and chill out!
 
RatLabGuy said:
But since you brought it up... there still is NO real scientific proof that vaccines (when used properly) cause any long-term health harm... or autism... in any way, form, or fashion. Not passed down by parents, not through kids. Your key word there is "speculation".
You talk as though people just make and sell things without any technical understanding of what they are making, how it affects people, or review by minor little things like... the FDA.
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No "scientific proof" in hand, but my wife was required to get a MMR shot just before we got married due to the titer results coming back negative (she was doing an internship at a hospital while finishing her degree in Occupational Therapy). Because at the time she had no insurance, she went to the Health Department to have them administer the MMR shot. That afternoon, she began feeling strange and was diagnosed with Bell's Palsy. Her face was drooped and her speech slurred for several weeks. Completely ruined our engagement photo session as a result. It was documented through the Health Department and she is now on some "list" somewhere in the CDC. She now works full time at the local hospital and recently they had to have their MMR titers checked again. Again, came back negative. Since they were able to pull the documentation, she is no longer required to get the MMR shot. Oddly enough (or maybe not so odd), she never had Bell's Palsy before that MMR shot, nor has she had it since.

Ever since then, I have watched VERY closely every time the pediatrician has requested a vaccine for my kids. Tin foil hat or not, I don't buy everything the FDA, CDC or any other government agency sells me about vaccines.
 
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they claim that an e-cig is anywhere from 100-1000 times better for you than a cigarette, i will take that for what it's worth. (and it's not costing me $20.00 a day)
i agree that the long term effects are not proven yet, but at least it's 4000 less chemicals with every puff.
 
Ole pinch of Copenhagen will just make everything alright on here...
 
My aplogies for getting off the subject to the OP. It's just as a word of caution. E-cigs are an unregulated industry and we do not know what the long term risks are.

Here is some free reading right at the top of google. It's the kind of stuff the FDA deems safe:
http://vaxtruth.org/2011/08/vaccine-ingredients/
Haven't had a shot in over ten years and my penis is still small!

BTW, the FDA deems it safe for cows to eat corn. Luckily the cow is slaughtered 6 months before it dies due to poisoning. It also drastically increases E Coli production in there system. Well known facts and your governing body (FDA) thinks its cool. Take it all with a grain of salt. Hopefully that grain doesn't have E Coli...

Do yourself a favor a line up everything you consume in a day. Then read the ingredients, if you can pronounce everything.

BTW, this is in spirit on conversation since it's the general chit chat area. I'm certainly not going to take offense by anything anyone has to say. This is the internet you know...
 
if the fda says it's ok to give cows corn (not up to date on my cow/fda regulations) but it's bad for them, then why should i trust them to regulate an ecig?

most of the negative testing that has been done on ecigs is sponsored by tobacco companies
 
I wouldn't trust the FDA to regulate anything. I'm in the health industry and the FDA is a joke. They deem it safe for vitamins to be manufactured from coal tar and corn syrup which is highly genetically modified. FDA inspects maybe 5% of what it actually deems safe like restaraunts, grocery stores, etc. Its not a conspiracy, its just the way it is. Don't take my word for it, try doing some of your own research for verification. The life cycle of a slaughter cow is well known and what health issues it has all boiling down to what it eats. Of course it all gets a blessing from the FDA. Anyone thinking that the federal government actually gives a shit about the people has been fooled by...well the federal government :)

If you don't believe me, do some reading on what a chicken nugget consists of and then do some reading on how it is deemed safe to eat.

Smokeless cigs are a $3 billion dollar industry, do you think they've hired some lobbyists yet?
 
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Ok.... I wasn't sure this would get any traction on here but apparently I was mistaken. Thanks for the support and advice but for the off topic stuff I didn't even bother reading all of that. So far this seems to be working out pretty good, I haven't felt like I've needed a cig all day and I actually tried one earlier and its already tasting kinda shitty lol, a couple of puffs and I put it out. I think I'm finally realizing what that beavers butthole is really like. I've already used about half of my artic menthol juice since yesterday and I'll try some different ones out to see how they taste. Hopefully I can ween myself off the nicotine in the near future then I can be done with all of this. As far as smoking e-cigs around people Ill treat them as if they are real cigs and only use them outside and try not to blow in other ppl's faces, I've always thought this was common courtesy. This is the first website that came up when I searched "vaping" and it helped me get started http://www.grimmgreen.com/noobieguide
 
77GreenMachine said:
... but most people "vaping" are douche bags.
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Yeah.
The guy that's just standing around smoking, is having a smoke .... but most "vapers" seem to make a spectacle of themselves like they are doing something of earth-shattering importance when they are "vaping".

Let me say this ... to me smoking is a choice that can be addicting. I started and quit as a teen. But I am all for anyone quitting and if this is what it takes, DO IT!

Matt
 
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Fun fact: The percentage of Americans that believe that vaccinations may be harmful is the same as the percentage of Americans who believe a house can be haunted by ghosts.

(45%)
 
Papa_Jon said:
madvapes has some you-tube videos that where helpful , I don't do all the coil stuff or cloud things . I did upgrade to a Manuel one , I keep having issues with the others
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Yeah I've been thinking if this standard e-cig proves to not last very long (durability) then I might try a mechanical mod. Anything that is simple in design must be more durable.
 
Joe J. said:
Ok.... I wasn't sure this would get any traction on here but apparently I was mistaken. Thanks for the support and advice but for the off topic stuff I didn't even bother reading all of that. So far this seems to be working out pretty good, I haven't felt like I've needed a cig all day and I actually tried one earlier and its already tasting kinda shitty lol, a couple of puffs and I put it out. I think I'm finally realizing what that beavers butthole is really like. I've already used about half of my artic menthol juice since yesterday and I'll try some different ones out to see how they taste. Hopefully I can ween myself off the nicotine in the near future then I can be done with all of this. As far as smoking e-cigs around people Ill treat them as if they are real cigs and only use them outside and try not to blow in other ppl's faces, I've always thought this was common courtesy. This is the first website that came up when I searched "vaping" and it helped me get started http://www.grimmgreen.com/noobieguide
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Yeah man no doubt. Anything to help you quit is great. Just trying to help you not be "that vapist guy".
 
Blaze said:
Does anyone see the word "vaping" and immediately want to call the people who do it "vapists"? Or is that just me?

:lol:
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I saw the title 'vaping' and immediately thought I was missing out on some new method of faping. Fap, fap, fap, fap....

Never heard of vaping until this thread.
 
since I HAVE no vises,I'll throw my dog in... I hear an advertisement on the radio in the mornins for a vape type store somewhere towards the coast and it has the "stoner" music on it and they talk about all these flavors and a lounge and such.Sounds more like a hooka lounge or head shop to me and I get a feeling of something shady with the whole style. Tryin not to profile anybody.
 
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