What happened to Male/Female?

[GotWood]

I like the people that watch hours of YouTube videos on

Me and you both brother.
I'm way more open minded than most people will ever know.

That's a lot coming from a gay black man. I'm proud of you.

 

[XJsavage]

I like the people that watch hours of YouTube videos on

That's a lot coming from a gay black man. I'm proud of you.

I visited Compton one time and woke up under his trailerhouse wearing only green panties and had half a blunt. Talk about a long walk home.

 

[YotaOnRocks]

That's a lot coming from a gay black man.

That's what he said

 

[YotaOnRocks]

Not as funny as" that's what she said"

I wonder if women ever turn things around and use that phrase.

 

[Croatan_Kid]

Hahahaha...turn things around...women...transgenders....I see what you did there! Even if it was unintended.

 

[drkelly]

Appreciate the sentiment, and reciprocate it.
This is an area where I want to have good sound discussion as I want to learn. I am very interested in hearing all your thoughts and opions, not to win an argument but to learn and grow.



Lets take labels out of this for a moment.
What about the act of playing with a doll or wearing a dress requires a vagina or makes it impossible if equipped with a penis? (lets leave phallus and dress length jokes out...too easy)
That is my point. Why does the little boy feel bad for playing with a baby doll? That is my problem. Encourage that little boy to play with that baby doll. He is your son, right? Love him as he is. He shouldn't feel the need to change into an acceptable form. I think it should be perfectly ok to have a penis and a baby doll. I think we owe it to ourselves to allow and promote that.

I agree and think there is nothing wrong with a little boy exploring the new world around him by playing with dolls, or a little girl wanting to play with cars and trucks. I do think society accepts tomboys more than a boy acting like a girl. In the case of these transgender people though, it isn't just a phase or something they did for a little while. The boys talk about how they wanted to play with girl toys and wear girl clothes, and the girls talk about how they wanted to play with boy toys and wear boy clothes for as long as they can remember. The common theme for both transgender boys and girls is that they feel the sexual programming/identity in their brain does not match their physical parts, and that they have always felt that way for as long as they can remember.

I don't believe gay people choose to be gay, and I don't believe transgender people choose to be transgender. I believe they are born with their brain programmed a certain way. I don't think the programming can be changed with therapy or medicine.

 

[drkelly]

How many others have horrible pasts they aren't disclosing.
I've seen speculation that as many as half teen transgender are sexual molestation victims

That would be terrible if that were the case. Sexual molestation is a horrible thing that should never happen. I have a hard time believing though that a tragic past changes someone's sexual identity. I don't believe that if a child is molested by an adult of the same sex that they are going to become gay.

Some transgender kids will take hormone blockers for a couple of years to put off starting puberty of their physical birth sex until they are fully ready to commit to the transformation.

 

[JSJJ388]

With those two snippets, my question becomes, are all sex changes considered to be done by people afflicted with a mental disorder...or have we hit a point now where a feminine man or butch woman are sympathizers, and it's truly become 'acceptable' and trendy for some. Is there even a way to quantify that??? I think I'm of relative sound mind, but if I had a spare $100k and decided I wanted to make my outie an innie tomorrow, because I'm really liberal and want to show support. That would be more making some kind 'statement' than necessarily qualify as mental disorder, right? I get that's over simplifying and not the typical track, so maybe if I were to follow through, there would be something wrong by default. Or is it all transgenders that get a sex change have a mental disorder, but not all sex changes are transgendered afflicted mentally?

I would say that anyone who has a sex change has some mental issues. You are what you are. You are born male, you are male. You might like guys, but you are a male. To think you are what you are not is insanity. I think that many of the people currently saying they are "trans" are doing so for the publicity. This thought is backed up by the fact that more than half of teens and young adults decide later on to "transition" back to their actual sex.

When I was younger I was told I was bipolar. I had problems in school and at home. I was expelled from Forsyth county schools several times and ended up in juvenile detention a few times for assault charges.

I was a sweet well mannered kid 90% of the time. I did great in school and actually took advanced classes in several subjects. I worked part time at my dad's business. But I would flip out over nothing and cause chaos every now and then.

I was sent to psychiatrist, psychologists, and therapist. They told me I was bipolar. For years I took many medications and lived with the thought that I was born this way and it wasn't my fault. Since I was born this way I didn't work towards fixing it, because I couldn't.

Well when my parents divorced I was 15 and something just snapped one day. I realized there wasn't anything wrong with me. I stopped taking my mediction and started focusing on the real problem. I had a bad temper and I could control it. Took me a while to get my anger under control but I did it. I see people I went to school with years ago and they can't believe I'm not in prison or dead. They are shocked at how successful I have been.

I tell this story because while I know there are bipolar people and people with mental illnesses out there, I was wrongly diagnosed and led to believe I had a problem that was out of my control.

I do believe that a small percentage of people are born trapped in the opposite sex body. But if we start telling every young kid that is a little confused that they are really a transgender than I fear we will just be causing huge problems for them when it is just a bit of insecurity at a young age.

I have no problem with what another human being does as long as it doesn't directly affect me. I live by this rule "your rights end where my begin". I just hope we aren't pushing young confused kids into more chaos by making them believe they are something they are not.

Much the same I was diagnosed with ADHD and mild Bi-polar and took meds for several years. About 15 I realized that I just needed to learn how to focus and control myself. Stopped taking the meds and started jsut trying to do better. Now, I still have to force myself to focus, but I have a whole lot milder temper.

 

[WARRIORWELDING]

That would be terrible if that were the case. Sexual molestation is a horrible thing that should never happen. I have a hard time believing though that a tragic past changes someone's sexual identity. I don't believe that if a child is molested by an adult of the same sex that they are going to become gay.
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Agreed and for me factual. My young childhood was marred because of instances like this. I'm not proud of it. Its Not a billboard crutch. Just a very sad fact. Not entirely warped because of it. And I've tried to help others because of it. But it certainly did not effect my gender affiliation.