What have you done for your health today?

[Andy J.]

Sure, technically.
But the difference is so miniscule its immaterial.

Consider this.
3,500 calories is the accepted value for a LB of fat.
Want to lose a LB - create a 3,500 calorie deficit. Gain a lb, consume a 3500 calorie surplus.

You are someone who works out and talks a lot about fitness, you know how difficult it is to gain a pound of pure muscle.
But a pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day at rest. A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day at rest.
So a recomp of replacing 1 lb of fat with 1 lb of muscle is a net 4 extra calorie per day burn.

Lets say you get crazy and add a full 20lbs of muscle and lose 20lbs of fat. (again - you know the challenge of adding 20lbs of lean muscle...for those who may not - without anabolics 20lbs of lean tissue gain is difficult)
But that dramatic 20lb conversion would net 80 calories per day of extra burn. orrrrr 80*365 or 29,200 calories per year.

That's about 8lbs of extra fat burned per year.

For someone who needs to lose 50+lbs...you simply can not work it off. period. hard stop.
Fat people must hear this and understand it. They can not out work a bad diet.

I agree with this but would like to add that the body will burn fat AND muscle for energy in some unknown ratio that probably varies by person. If you workout/lift weights and eat higher levels of protein than the standard American diet, then that shifts the ratio more towards burning fat and sparing muscle. You definitely cannot out-exercise a bad diet, but you’ll never get a desirable physique with diet alone.

Edited to add: I believe the body doesn’t like long periods of deficit calories. The max duration is likely dependent on body composition, but roughly 6+months of eating at a deficit is going to have a negative effect on anyone’s body’s ability to do things. Regardless of how much weight someone has to lose, they should take maintenance breaks to reset and recover those body systems.

 

[UTfball68]

Found a really great way to drop 12lbs in 3 days. Had been sticking around 275ish for the last few months. Caught myself a stomach bug, and I’m really excited to see where this puts me as I type this while on the shitter for the 11th time since noon.

 

[Andy J.]

Found a really great way to drop 12lbs in 3 days. Had been sticking around 275ish for the last few months. Caught myself a stomach bug, and I’m really excited to see where this puts me as I type this while on the shitter for the 11th time since noon.

 

[R Q]

I started Carnivore several weeks ago and it gave me the freedom of not trying to get a "balanced" meal each time. I really didn't lose any weight because I still like beer and am not giving that up. I can't do the workouts that I used to so my work is my exercise mainly.. I stay within 5 lbs all the time no matter what I do except for in '23 I didnt drink much and lost 20 lbs... but I found it! lol

 

[Andy J.]

Wife found a simple protein muffin recipe, so I gave it a try this morning. Turned out really good, except for the paper cups. They might as well have been fly paper.

Mix 1 box Kodiak muffin mix (I did blueberry), 1 protein shake of choice (I did 11oz Premier Protein vanilla), 150g yogurt (Single serving of mixed berry Okios), then pour in muffin pan and bake at 350 for 20-25min. Makes 12-15 muffins

 

[jeepinmatt]

Wife found a simple protein muffin recipe, so I gave it a try this morning. Turned out really good, except for the paper cups. They might as well have been fly paper.

Mix 1 box Kodiak muffin mix (I did blueberry), 1 protein shake of choice (I did 11oz Premier Protein vanilla), 150g yogurt (Single serving of mixed berry Okios), then pour in muffin pan and bake at 350 for 20-25min. Makes 12-15 muffins

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My wife feeds pretty much exactly this to my kids on a daily basis. She also sneaks in vegetables. She's a much better parent than me.

 

[awheelterd]

You carnivore diet folks must all have your gallbladders. If I ate only meat and proteins with nothing green, I'd literally shit all day.

 

[YJJPWrangler]

You carnivore diet folks must all have your gallbladders. If I ate only meat and proteins with nothing green, I'd literally shit all day.

The first week was rough. Nothing but liquid squirts. It's gotten better but still not "normal". I'm going to incorporate some fiber supplements to see if it gets better.

 

[Bebop]

Sure, technically.
But the difference is so miniscule its immaterial.

Consider this.
3,500 calories is the accepted value for a LB of fat.
Want to lose a LB - create a 3,500 calorie deficit. Gain a lb, consume a 3500 calorie surplus.

You are someone who works out and talks a lot about fitness, you know how difficult it is to gain a pound of pure muscle.
But a pound of muscle burns 6 calories per day at rest. A pound of fat burns 2 calories per day at rest.
So a recomp of replacing 1 lb of fat with 1 lb of muscle is a net 4 extra calorie per day burn.

Lets say you get crazy and add a full 20lbs of muscle and lose 20lbs of fat. (again - you know the challenge of adding 20lbs of lean muscle...for those who may not - without anabolics 20lbs of lean tissue gain is difficult)
But that dramatic 20lb conversion would net 80 calories per day of extra burn. orrrrr 80*365 or 29,200 calories per year.

That's about 8lbs of extra fat burned per year.

For someone who needs to lose 50+lbs...you simply can not work it off. period. hard stop.
Fat people must hear this and understand it. They can not out work a bad diet.

I really like this. Very good info.
I have the opposite problem (too skinny), but it puts things in perspective.

Thanks for sharing.

 

[justjeepin86]

The first week was rough. Nothing but liquid squirts. It's gotten better but still not "normal". I'm going to incorporate some fiber supplements to see if it gets better.

I had awesome dumps about a month in. Crap like once every 3 days. It was sweet.

 

[UTfball68]

Found a really great way to drop 12lbs in 3 days. Had been sticking around 275ish for the last few months. Caught myself a stomach bug, and I’m really excited to see where this puts me as I type this while on the shitter for the 11th time since noon.

Well guys…I did…I did in fact lose the targeted 12lbs, and only at the cost of crippling illness and extreme dehydration and cramps. But I’m finally functioning today.

 

[jeepinmatt]

I had some gastrointestinal discord last night myself. Probably a 2-3 pounder though, nothing major. Still sucked getting up every 30 minutes for most of the night.

 

[Atla]

Welp.

I finally done it.

After five years of trying to get back into the gym... and having a membership the entire time.. (eesh $)

I've finally hit three weeks of going back regularly! I think what helped was going back the first day and managing to get about 80% of my prior max bench press. I figured after five years of inactivity I'd be a weak little biznitch. Instead, I'm still out lifting all the young broccoli heads. Granted, the next three days I was in incredible pain. But worth it. Since then I've realized I've retained a good bit of strength and muscle over the FIVE YEARS OF BULKING (That's what I'm calling it now.)... now I just got a big gut to go with my big arms.

But I'm in the freaking zone and I've even been crushing my nutritional macros.

Which are:

Training Days: 2243 calories.
186g Carbs. 62g Fat. 246g Protein.

Non-Training Days: 1965 calories.
137g Carbs. 57g Fat. 235g Protein.

I'd forgotten what a chore it is to eat that much protein. But it's fascinating to force yourself to eat (the correct mix - not garbage) and still lose weight. I woke up at midnight last night and choked down a couple scoops of casein protein powder mixed with water into a 'pudding' just so I could hit my daily requirements.