What the news media has come to...

ManglerYJ

ManglerYJ

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So times are scary... Wars and rumors of wars. Isis, Taliban and random acts of violence surround us at a fever pitch. Yet another seemingly senseless police shooting. Uproars of inaction by police and a lack of Grand Jury indictments have forced rioting in the streets. Bedlam. Chaos.

Can't we just have one feel good story? Can't we just have one light at the end of the tunnel? Throw us a bone! We need to know that all is not lost in the U.S. Tell us about how the American dream is still within reach!!!!!

Enter Mohammad Islam (now that's a name sure to make positive headlines in the U.S.) - 17 year old financial whiz kid from NYC that has made 72 million dollars on his high school lunch break trading stocks! Talk about living the American dream!!!!! NY Magazine did a whole expo on this kid and WOW what a story!

Wait. What? So now, come to find out the story is a hoax and the kid made the whole thing up. Nice fact checking NY Magazine! Must have missed that day during your Journalism 101 classes in college.
 
I mean, even the "reporters" from The Daily Show ask the occasional question - and Jon Stewart himself will tell you that his is a fake news program!
 
So now a different rant, but in the same theme.....

Since when did "information" that is garnered illegally become a legitimate source? The recent hack of Ashley Madison has released hundreds (perhaps thousands) of names and credit card information and the news media has jumped all over it with claims that Josh Duggar has a couple accounts there, along with some prominent government officials, etc. Since the "information" is only out there because it was illegally hacked, is it legitimate?

We also have Jarred Fogle who is now facing jail time and losing his livelihood as the Subway spokesperson all because a reporter recorded private conversations with him about his lust for "hot" middle school girls. First off, let me be clear - if he DID say that to a reporter he is a dumbass. BUT - if she recorded it without his knowledge and then gave it to the FBI as is being reported in the media, then that is ILLEGAL.

I am sure Edward R. Murrow is rolling in his grave at this point.

There is a point of diminishing returns when it comes to your "Right to Know". There are certain things that NEED to be kept secret. Edward Snowden opened a can of worms that nobody can re-seal with his desire to "let the public know what the government is doing". When it comes to the general public and their awareness of how close to war, utter chaos and overall destruction we are, ignorance is bliss.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

K - Men in Black
 
ManglerYJ said:
We also have Jarred Fogle who is now facing jail time and losing his livelihood as the Subway spokesperson all because a reporter recorded private conversations with him about his lust for "hot" middle school girls. First off, let me be clear - if he DID say that to a reporter he is a dumbass. BUT - if she recorded it without his knowledge and then gave it to the FBI as is being reported in the media, then that is ILLEGAL.
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From what I understand, they were having a conversation and he was like "hey, I like banging young girls, the younger the better. Rawr." So she called the police/FBI/whatever and was like "hey, Jared from Subway likes underage poon." They then wired her up for another conversation with him that they used against him.

I might be wrong, but that's what I understood happened. Not in those exact words, but I took some journalistic liberties like the media would. :p
 
Blaze said:
From what I understand, they were having a conversation and he was like "hey, I like banging young girls, the younger the better. Rawr." So she called the police/FBI/whatever and was like "hey, Jared from Subway likes underage poon." They then wired her up for another conversation with him that they used against him.

I might be wrong, but that's what I understood happened. Not in those exact words, but I took some journalistic liberties like the media would. :p
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Journalistic liberties aside...... you can't just go to the FBI and say that someone likes underage poon and they wire you up to record said information. There's still something called the Constitution and due process and all that. I'm not saying he's innocent and I'm DEFINITELY not siding with him as I think he's a creepy douchebag, but even creepy douchebags have rights protected by the Constitution.

As far as the Ashley Madison hack goes, so far, all that has been shared and lambasted in the media is that some of these people have accounts on it. People are being outed as cheaters because they created accounts on a website (that is primarily for cheating, but I digress). Just because someone has an account and gave a credit card number for said account doesn't really mean anything. Case in point, I am currently logged into NC4x4.com (a website devoted to the 4 wheel drive lifestyle), but I don't currently own a 4WD vehicle. And I don't think I'm the only one...
 
ManglerYJ said:
Journalistic liberties aside...... you can't just go to the FBI and say that someone likes underage poon and they wire you up to record said information. There's still something called the Constitution and due process and all that. I'm not saying he's innocent and I'm DEFINITELY not siding with him as I think he's a creepy douchebag, but even creepy douchebags have rights protected by the Constitution.
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I'm not really sure why not. He admitted to doing these things in the conversation. If I was having a conversation with a guy and he was telling me how he is attracted to young girls and he travels to NY all the time to have sex with underage girls, is that not enough to investigate further? I mean, how many young girls, and they could have been younger than 16/17, would you have let him have sex with before going after him? Wait for one of them to come forward?

It's just like some dude you suspect of selling drugs or whatever. You report it to the police and they do whatever they do. They didn't just string him up by his balls, they investigated, got evidence, and then went after him. That seems like due process to me.
 
Blaze said:
I'm not really sure why not. He admitted to doing these things in the conversation. If I was having a conversation with a guy and he was telling me how he is attracted to young girls and he travels to NY all the time to have sex with underage girls, is that not enough to investigate further? I mean, how many young girls, and they could have been younger than 16/17, would you have let him have sex with before going after him? Wait for one of them to come forward?

It's just like some dude you suspect of selling drugs or whatever. You report it to the police and they do whatever they do. They didn't just string him up by his balls, they investigated, got evidence, and then went after him. That seems like due process to me.
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I just have to wonder how deeply perverted a guy can be to repeatedly say stuff like this to the same reporter on different occasions. And since the reporter was with him often enough for him to repeatedly breach the subject, it had to have been for something Subway related. How exactly do you breach the subject of underage sex in the context of a Subway conversation? "You should really try the Spicy Italian.... just like the 14 year old spicy Italian chick I was banging last week...." or "Have you tried the Pulled Pork sandwich at Subway? It reminds me of how I like to Pull my Pork whenever I see some kiddie porn." or "I like Subway because when I request my meatballs on her chicken breasts, they make it happen."
 
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