i know the legal vehicle/trailer width is 102". what about loads that are wider than 102"? is this also illegal? is it possible for a regular person to obtain a "wide load" permit or something like that?
i see several wide loads without lead cars they just have the signs and flags. depending on how far over 102 you are u may need a lead car and i think u have to call your route into the dmv and have it approved. i still would call the dmv to check
just adding to the 'i think' comments.. but i think there are levels of wideness..
In some cases your allowed some extra width but only if its removable rigging to secure the load and its above a certain height. (the swing out chain binder hooks)
At some point you have to add a banner..
chase car, then 2 cars etc..
If its a 1 time thing like moving a shed etc.. I don't think those are a big deal to get.. Usually they are more worried about the weight of the load.
i know the legal vehicle/trailer width is 102". what about loads that are wider than 102"? is this also illegal? is it possible for a regular person to obtain a "wide load" permit or something like that?
You probably need to take a class to get certified to drive a "wide load" vehicle. They have an 8hr class to certify you for driving the escort vehicle of a wide load, I don't see why that wouldnt apply to the driver of the wide load (reason I know this is because I already took all the defensive driving classes, and to get out of a speeding ticket, my lawyer got me into the escort class as part of the deal).
You are supposed to submit your load info (width, height, length, weight), start and finish point, time frame to the state, and of course the fee. The DOT evaluates it, establishes your route, tells you if you need a lead and/or trailing vehicle.
Here...http://permitweb.dot.state.nc.us/
You can apply online, but you need to first register by mail
Equipment leaves my shop every day hanging over the sides of 102" wide trailers, but usually no more than 6" per side. No lead car used, just a wide load banner front and rear.
Any body can get a yearly wideload permit for 100 dolars a year. thay have to have truck tag # and traler tag#. The only way u have to have a pilot car is if u are over 12 feet wide. Any thing under 12 feet requires wide load signs front and rear flags at each corner of the load. What are u hauling that is over 8'6".
I always had the idea that if one of the rigs is a cab truck type deal pull another rig up un its back side so that the front end of the second rig is up in the air out of the way to make room.
And before you say thats a stupid idea, thats how they tow all the boats that I have to unload off the back of the big Rigs during the summers at work, they stack em up diagonally kinda supporting each other strapped down.
Ruff - I had posted on PBB ~2-3 weeks ago about using a car trailer as a 'long tow dolly' Basically load up and hang something 1/2 off the back with 2 wheels rolling.. I know people have done it in pinches but what about setting up to explicitly do that. Obviously your trailer would have to be capable of supporting the weight and im sure yours is..
No one could find anything in the laws about. My rational was 'how long' can tow dolly be ? The front 1 (or 2) rigs are just 'cargo'.
Might consider that as an option..
BTW: No steak dinner ticket yet... Sounds like Krapsman brings the suck 1 more time..
I have personally seen numerous loads done that way. (i know i know, just because its been seen done doesnt mean its OK to do).
Thats also how they haul all those new trucks right after they are built. Weve all seen it...the one truck pulling the 6 or 7 half built trucks (chassis and motor) hanging one off the back of another.
What kind of strapping would be needed in order to do this? Would you just strap the front axle down like normal (two straps)? Obviously a safety chain or strap as well. Would that be efficient enough to do it?
The only thing I could see possibly being a problem with this setup is when turning a tight corner, (i.e. into a gas station or parking lot), the rear of the trailer swinging wide (depending on how far forward the wheels are), and creating problems with the rig hanging off the back going sideways or something. I guess if the steering wasn't locked it might be OK though. Those truck/cabs have a hitch of some sort under the front axle so they all pivot separately. The rig piggy back on the tow rig isn't a bad idea. I saw a mobile home tractor with a for ranger perched on the back. Just have to have a HEAVY duty tow rig like a roll back tow truck.
That's another idea, maybe get something like that. Some (if not all) of them have a secondary tow setup under the bed for hauling two cars at once. One like Yager is saying with the back wheels still on the ground. I think those pivot for steering around tighter corners. Just a couple of things to think about.
Ya strap the wheels/tires good with those basket type straps and unlock the wheel to let it track where it needs to.. Assuming its straight on the trailer it should be good..
Worst case if you get jammed up in a parking lot, unhook it and get repositioned..
Ruffs trailer is what ?? 36'? I'm sure he's mindful of where he goes anyway...
I think if you were going to that setup (1 hanging off the back) there are several thing you could do to make it easier and safer. Believe it or not i saw a trailer actually sold a long time ago that had a dolly swivel tray built into the back dove tail.. I think that would be easy to do..
hmmmm, so with a rig hanging off the back like a "tow dolly" how do the laws as far as the weight limit your allowed to tow change? Does the vihicle in tow dolly mode still count for the full weight of itself as if you were towing it on a trailer; or since its supporting part of its own weight does it change?
Ruff - I had posted on PBB ~2-3 weeks ago about using a car trailer as a 'long tow dolly' Basically load up and hang something 1/2 off the back with 2 wheels rolling.. I know people have done it in pinches but what about setting up to explicitly do that. Obviously your trailer would have to be capable of supporting the weight and im sure yours is..
yep, i saw that thread when you made it and it's definitely a consideration. my main concern is what rattlecanpaint mentioned. my trailer has such a long rear overhang, how would the tail whip affect things turning.
Ruffs trailer is what ?? 36'? I'm sure he's mindful of where he goes anyway...
yeah, probably about 36' overall. 32' deck. i've been known to go through regular city gas stations, fast food parking lots, etc. with bus and trailer, lol. i don't think i'm going to use the bus on this trip since i'm trying to sell it, so overall length shouldn't be in question.
BTW: No steak dinner ticket yet... Sounds like Krapsman brings the suck 1 more time..
hmmm, i'll call them. they build a nice trailer, but customer service is a little lacking. not terrible, but it's not good.
I always had the idea that if one of the rigs is a cab truck type deal pull another rig up un its back side so that the front end of the second rig is up in the air out of the way to make room.
Yea I feel bad my trailer is stuck down in Mooresville, and my truck is def not runnin well at all misfiring and sluggish plus the fact that I have been driving with no power steering for almost a week now otherwise I'd go get it this weekend
i don't think i'm going to use the bus on this trip since i'm trying to sell it, so overall length shouldn't be in question.
