You can't make this up.... Pitbull story

I am SO sick of all these F***in liberals saying how dangerous pits are. ok...My brother in law and I breed them and never come across ANY professional pits that are aggressive. People mix up "Aggressive" with "Territorial". Pits are def naturally territorial, but not aggressive. I think I read an article where there are so many attacks from dogs each year and there are just as many from Golden Retrievers as there are mix dog breeds.
It just makes me sick that pits have such a bad rap...if you have NEVER owned one...shut the **** up. I was once bitten by a jack russel...only dog I have ever been bitten by, but I am not gonna say that all jack russels are aggressive.

Just like a child.....if you treat it like chit...its gonna grow up and be chit.

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I'm not a pitbull guy in the least...but I have had them around a time or two, and a dog is only as good as it's owner. However, I do believe there are more lethal/mutilating attacks from this breed. All that said...I think it's funny when people take such a stance against them or for them that don't even know they're not truly a recognized breed, and are basically a glorified mutt. And the pic in the link, the dog pictured looks like a Can Corso to me, or maybe an American Bull dog/Mastiff mix.
 
UTfball68 said:
I'm not a pitbull guy in the least...but I have had them around a time or two, and a dog is only as good as it's owner. However, I do believe there are more lethal/mutilating attacks from this breed. All that said...I think it's funny when people take such a stance against them or for them that don't even know they're not truly a recognized breed, and are basically a glorified mutt. And the pic in the link, the dog pictured looks like a Can Corso to me, or maybe an American Bull dog/Mastiff mix.
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I have to disagree. Long ago, the "pitbull" was bred to be a game dog...there are still MANY bloodlines of TRUE pits...your american ST and APBT are a version of a less pure pitbull. When you get into Remyline, gotti, razors edge, these are more pure breeds that are starting to change because the "game" is being bred out of them.
They are def not a glorified mutt...thats why people are willing to pay up to 10k just for a stud fee.....
Maybe the pits that are attacking are ones being tied up to trees and owners who throw them some food once a day and mistreat them....
But then again....only pitbull stories seem to make headlines...if it was some other kind of dog, they would make it out to be the persons fault for some reason.
 
Please show me a link to all the mauling deaths by Golden Retrievers! It is sad Pit bull owners are in such denial. Yes all dogs’ breeds have a tendency to be territorial as you say but there is a huge difference from a bite and being mauled to death.

By the way I am far from being liberal but if I saw a Pit on my property unattended by its owner, I would shoot first and ask questions later.

Read and learn why Pits get such a bad name since 2005 there have been 186 deaths due to dog bites 56% of those were by Pits. Out of the all the breeds of dogs 56% of deaths are by Pits! I suppose all the other breeds are just in good homes so they are raised right.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_by_dogs_in_the_United_States
 
All that lists is Pit Bull mixes or type dogs, I don't think it could have been more vague. They should have just said bit by dog if thats the case. If everyone who owned a pit would admit it, do you have any idea how askew the statistics would be?
 
jds97Wrangler said:
Please show me a link to all the mauling deaths by Golden Retrievers! It is sad Pit bull owners are in such denial. Yes all dogs’ breeds have a tendency to be territorial as you say but there is a huge difference from a bite and being mauled to death.
By the way I am far from being liberal but if I saw a Pit on my property unattended by its owner, I would shoot first and ask questions later.
Read and learn why Pits get such a bad name since 2005 there have been 186 deaths due to dog bites 56% of those were by Pits. Out of the all the breeds of dogs 56% of deaths are by Pits! I suppose all the other breeds are just in good homes so they are raised right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_by_dogs_in_the_United_States
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I am saying that golden retrievers are known for being "the family dog" but somewhere at sometime...someone has been biten, mauled, attack, etc by one..... By you saying that if you saw a pit on your property, you would shoot, just shows how ignorant you are. what if it was a lab or husky, would you shoot it too?....I am not in denial about anything....Have you ever owned a pit?? if not then you have no knowledge on the subject....theres movies and articles and books about global warming, but we all know thats a crock of chit.
Regardless, I am just giving my first hand experience on the subject at hand and am telling you and everyone else, that it is all in how the owner treats and raises ANY dog, not just pits.
 
jds97Wrangler said:
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Read and learn why Pits get such a bad name since 2005 there have been 186 deaths due to dog bites 56% of those were by Pits. Out of the all the breeds of dogs 56% of deaths are by Pits! I suppose all the other breeds are just in good homes so they are raised right.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_killed_by_dogs_in_the_United_States
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All of these so called "statistics" include pit bull and pit bull mixes, or "pit bull type dogs" therefore invalidating them as a statistic since there are many breeds and many mixes out there regularly misidentified as a pit bull. Sadly 78% of all statistics are skewed to support the side of the person quoting the statistic.
 
DemonDave said:
All of these so called "statistics" include pit bull and pit bull mixes, or "pit bull type dogs" therefore invalidating them as a statistic since there are many breeds and many mixes out there regularly misidentified as a pit bull. Sadly 78% of all statistics are skewed to support the side of the person quoting the statistic.
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If 56% of dog mauling deaths are caused by some sort of breed of pit bull doesn't that tell you there is a problem with the breed? After all there are hundreds of other breeds of dogs. Yet 56% of deaths by mauling are done by pit bull breeds. I don’t see how saying 56% of deaths since 2005 have been the result of some breed of pit-bull are skewing the statistic.

But I guess going by the pit bull owners excuse out of the hundreds of breeds of dogs only pit bulls are owned by bad owners who raise them to be killers.
 
jds97Wrangler said:
If 56% of dog mauling deaths are caused by some sort of breed of pit bull doesn't that tell you there is a problem with the breed? After all there are hundreds of other breeds of dogs. Yet 56% of deaths by mauling are done by pit bull breeds. I don’t see how saying 56% of deaths since 2005 have been the result of some breed of pit-bull are skewing the statistic.
But I guess going by the pit bull owners excuse out of the hundreds of breeds of dogs only pit bulls are owned by bad owners who raise them to be killers.
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Thats like saying a certain brand of cigarette causes more cancer than another..... HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A PITBULL????? or are you just going by the media? Just like with every race of human..there are good ones and there are bad ones. If one of my pits ever attacked one of my kids or my wife or someone of my family...yes, it would be put down. but that goes for any dog.
Statistics are just that...statistics. from one person or one community of people.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
Just like with every race of human..there are good ones and there are bad ones.
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That being said I believe most here would agree that profiling and stereotyping humans does in fact work most of the time, and I believe the same can be said for dogs. You see a breed of dog, coupled with it's environment, and you have a pretty good idea what the demeanor and personality of that dog is going to be.
 
I have a rule when it comes to any animal, if it has teeth it can bite(I said bite not maul) . I think it's all in how an animal is raised.
Part of the reason the stats are stacked against pits, have you ever been to the hood in a major city? I bet 75% of Compton has a pit, it unfotuneately became a status symbol for thugs. People buy them because they think they are a badass and need to have a badass dog.
There is also a big difference between people who get dogs to have a dog, and people who get dogs to have a pet. People with a pet,are laying on the floor playing with them, people with a dog are yelling out the back door for the dog to stfu.
I have no dog in this fight,as I don't own a pit, or wish to. I would never shoot a dog for coming on my property,just as I wouldn't shoot you.
I don't care what kind of dog it is, if I don't know the dog I would steer clear of it anyway.
 
Funny you bring up Jack Russels. They're known for being nippy dogs.

Why do people want certain breeds of dogs? Not a trick question. Think about it a little. Different breeds are different! They look different, and they ON AVERAGE act different.

I've never understood why the pitbull defenders can't admit the truth. Their dogs are a bit more likely to kill you than say... a St. Benard. Nature vs. Nurture. You can control the nurture part but there will always be a Nature part that's built in and out of your control no matter how well you treat your pet.

And, if you know me, I'm not liberal. This has nothing to do with politics. Just statistics.

Cherokeekid88 said:
I am SO sick of all these F***in liberals saying how dangerous pits are. ok...My brother in law and I breed them and never come across ANY professional pits that are aggressive. People mix up "Aggressive" with "Territorial". Pits are def naturally territorial, but not aggressive. I think I read an article where there are so many attacks from dogs each year and there are just as many from Golden Retrievers as there are mix dog breeds.
It just makes me sick that pits have such a bad rap...if you have NEVER owned one...shut the **** up. I was once bitten by a jack russel...only dog I have ever been bitten by, but I am not gonna say that all jack russels are aggressive.
Just like a child.....if you treat it like chit...its gonna grow up and be chit.
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This again, LOL?

Nobody convinces anybody of anything in this discussion.
 
I was stationed in Ft. Hood and my son was about 3. Some friends that lived across the street had a large (80) black pitt. No one in the area would go near him becuase he was scarded and looked mean. One day my son was in the yard playing in the grass, I was working on a car. When I turned around batman (dog) was on the ground next to my son. My son was rubbing and pulling on him and he just sat there. After that day he would come over anytime my son was outside and sit with him. He would only let me walk up to him. Best babysitter I ever had. But at my current job I have had to shoot 6 or 7 pitts and maybe two other dogs. I think it is how they are treated..
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
Thats like saying a certain brand of cigarette causes more cancer than another..... HAVE YOU EVER OWNED A PITBULL????? or are you just going by the media? Just like with every race of human..there are good ones and there are bad ones. If one of my pits ever attacked one of my kids or my wife or someone of my family...yes, it would be put down. but that goes for any dog.
Statistics are just that...statistics. from one person or one community of people.
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if one of your dogs ever attack one of your kids you will put the dog down. thats a hell of a statement. you seem to be SURE that your dog would never do that. I wonder how many pit owners that have had one of their children killed by there dog was sure it would never do anything like that. i dont have any problem with some one having a pitbull.the only problem i have with the whole issue is that i never see the owner of a dog that kills someone go to prison. with the reputation that pits have (denie it all you want but they have the reputation for a reason) you should take responsiblity for what ever it does.if it kills someone you spend the rest of your life in prison.this should not be a problem considering you are sure your dog would never do anything like that.
 
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I say we stop now. This will go nowhere! we have this argument every two months. Where's Reid we need to talk politicians, atleast they can defend themselves. :burnout:.
 
My parents have a pit/lab mix. I raised it just like I did my lab, but she can be mean as hell sometimes. She is normally not aggressive towards us, but she is mean as hell towards people she doesn't know. I think you could literally beat my lab to death and she won't even lift a jawl to snarl at you. My parents' dog has almost attacked several people and dogs, luckily we are quick to grab her when we need to.

Back in 08 when the Phils won the World Series I was over at their house watching the game with my dad and brothers. At one point we all jumped up and were cheering and something set her off and she went apeshit on my ankle, grabbed it and started shaking it around like she was trying to rip it off. Luckily for me my dad was there and immediate grabbed her and threw her out the door (literally, we had the back door open) but that could have really hurt me.

The way I see it, there very well may be pits that are sweet dogs, but why would you take the risk? It is in their nature, and if you don't agree with me you are in denial.
 
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