You can't make this up.... Pitbull story

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People kill more people than dogs. Maybe we should stop breeding them.
 
Wwildman said:
Golden retriever attack
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/8228648/pet-dog-mauls-four-in-sydney
Another non pit attack
http://www.wapt.com/r/23026899/detail.html
two more non pit attacks
http://www.wpix.com/news/wpix-dog-maul-dead-story,0,3496505.story
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Great job you found three non pit examples of dogs attacking but not killing! i never once denied all breeds have tendancy to have a bite attack. But facts don't lie Pits kill and they are dangerous.

As for cheerokeekid its good to hear after the pit kills your kid you will be willing to put it down. Great plan!

If you want one thats fine but if your dog kills someone I feel the law should be you go to jail for murder!
 
If your dog attacks or shows any aggression towards you, you are simply not being a good dog owner. Dogs are not that hard to take care of, and are NOT cats. They require a strong hand and require a leader, not just a guy who feeds them.

I used to be terrified of dogs, got attacked by a stray when I was a kid. Now I own a 60 pound Shepard/Husky mix, and she is my best friend, its hard to spend a day without her. Im a dog owner now, and I wouldnt look back for the world.
 
cujo wasnt a pit and he killed all kinds of people
i love my pit hes a great dog never snarled at anyone or snaped at anybody hed probably lick you to death if anything he loves kids what do some of yall want out of a dog

EDIT: that dog in the picture was scary she should have had more sense not to f**k with it
 
I have two Pit mixes and they are probably the most sweetest dogs I have ever had. If anyone that is playing with them says "ow" at any point and time both dogs will stop playing and cower away immediately until they are called to. Hell I can say "ow" while sitting on the couch and they both run for cover. I have met other Pits that are just as sweet and wouldn't harm anyone. On the other hand I have seen some Pretty vicious Poodles, Dalmatians, Chihuahuas, and the most vicious dog I have ever met was a little Pomeranian named Vixen. That little bitch would take a finger off if she didn't like you. Pit bulls are probably one of the most misidentified dog on the planet. Check this out just for instance.

http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/findpit.html

I finally found it but it took me a few tries, I'll give you a hint ( it's number 16 )I say if you don't want to run the risk or take the chance that you could be mauled/maimed/murdered/bitten/scratched/ or any other horrible descriptions of the evil things an ANIMAL can do then I say you better not own a dog. Lets face it a dog and/or cat is still just an animal after all. Oh just an FYI my 6yr old stepson was bitten by a dog pretty good this summer. He needed stitches and a shunt put in his tear duct because of the laceration. The dog bit him in the face and any closer he would have lost his eye ( I do mean any closer ). It wasn't a Pit Bull that bit him it was actually a border collie mix having a bad day. Had it been a Pit Bull it would have been all over the news but because it wasn't the only ones that knew about it was the only ones involved. As for the article that was posted I don't think the media could have used a more scary looking stock photo that was obviously shopped out of something else and it's not even a Pit. This conversation usually doesn't go anywhere because the people that are terrified of Pit Bulls will still try to push their views on other people that are not scared of them. This is conversation is just like the Pit Bull a "VICIOUS" cycle. I hope nobody gets maimed/mauled/mur...... you get the point and I hope if someone does the media misrepresents this thread and blows it way out of proportion and shows pictures that would scare hardened criminals.

Flame away haters.
 
wrangler00 said:
cujo wasnt a pit and he killed all kinds of people
i love my pit hes a great dog never snarled at anyone or snaped at anybody hed probably lick you to death if anything he loves kids what do some of yall want out of a dog

EDIT: that dog in the picture was scary she should have had more sense not to f**k with it
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Cujo was a St. Bernard, and the only Bernard I know is a one eyed 120 pound baby.
 
think of all the aggressive little yapper dogs that you've encountered. Just be grateful those aren't 80lbs. Otherwise we'd have killer poodles and chihuahuas on the loose. I'm not a pit owner, but I think that although raising them to behave and what not is a huge effect on it, that instinct is going to be there. It is in every breed of dog. Hell, chow chows are bloody mean as hell too. Sucks it happened, but it did, and no debate that anyone has is going to change it. There's a reason the cops use German Sheperds, think of all the people that they have the opportunity to have killed. They're far scarier than any pit is going to be because they can be controlled a lot better.
No real point to any of that for a debate, but I don't think it's one of the debates worth having because it won't ever get us anywhere. Aggressive dogs are everywhere, and just because pits have the jaws to kill, doesn't mean that they will
 
"Territorial" and "aggressive" go hand in hand; as does "protective."

If your dog doesn't know me and it's stupid enough to act as judge, jury, and executioner then it is an aggressive dog. I don't care if your kid is in the yard playing. I don't care if your dog thinks it needs to defend the house. I could be the mailman, the UPS guy, someone with a broke down car, a walker, a girl who just got thrown out of the car by her deadbeat boyfriend, your friend from out of town, or whatever else. There are a million legit scenarios that could lead to me walking up to or past your house. The last thing you need is a dog that automatically attacks people just because they aren't easily recognizable.

Dogs have simple brains and they aren't very good at comprehending unfamiliar situations. The last thing I want is a dog that is a liability. My home is protected by Myself, Mossberg, ADT, and RPD. If I ever get a dog it will be my job to protect it, not the other way around; or it will not be part of my family. Pit or not...Those are my terms.
 
jds97Wrangler said:
Great job you found three non pit examples of dogs attacking but not killing! i never once denied all breeds have tendancy to have a bite attack. But facts don't lie Pits kill and they are dangerous.
As for cheerokeekid its good to hear after the pit kills your kid you will be willing to put it down. Great plan!
If you want one thats fine but if your dog kills someone I feel the law should be you go to jail for murder!
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If you read the last one the child died from the attack .

I have seen mean and dangerous dogs of all breeds . Hell I went to a old farm to look at and buy a old car . The owner told me that somebody dropped a dog off that was meaner then hell it was a Boxer mix .

This whole argument Proves my point when the media put up a bad report on anything the majority believes it .
I.E Lemmings
 
A good friend of mine has a pit. Very Dangerous, if you are made of sugar or bacon. He will absolutely lick you to death. Sweetest male dog I have ever met.
Another friend of mine has two Jack Russel's. One of them will touch you, but don't touch him. His teeth are bigger than any of my Labs. His other one is a high speed Q-tip. Get near her face and she will clean your ears out!
I don't believe in the bred into them idea all that much. I have two labs that hate water.
I have seen more mean smaller dogs than I have big dogs, but then if I were that small I would be pissed off too
I still believe any given dog can be as smart or sweet as you make it. If they are treated right from the get go
But then again, we have mental retarded people, I think some of the inbreeding that some irresponsible dog owners do, makes some dogs retarded, and subsequently dangerous. I can't think of a single mutt dog of any of my friends that is mean. But the meaner dogs I have encountered were all supposed to be pure bred.
this is a topic that no everyone will never agree upon.
Now go hug your friend!
 
Speaking of shepards, anyone remember when they were the "vicious" aggressive killing machines..., and b4 that it was some other breed, and b4 that another breed.....just like the fad for all the rich kids is the diesel world, b4 that it was high dollar imports and b4 that mustangs
 
The article said the woman was in a pit bull advocacy group. I wonder how many time she spewed that "my dogs are so lovable" and "it's all in how they are treated" crap. I wonder if she thought about how sweet her little poochie was when it was chewing on her face.
 
Lifted 4x4s with big tires are much more likely to roll over and kill or seriously hurt you. Maybe we should ban them. Just saying.
 
Fart said:
"Territorial" and "aggressive" go hand in hand; as does "protective."

If your dog doesn't know me and it's stupid enough to act as judge, jury, and executioner then it is an aggressive dog. I don't care if your kid is in the yard playing. I don't care if your dog thinks it needs to defend the house. I could be the mailman, the UPS guy, someone with a broke down car, a walker, a girl who just got thrown out of the car by her deadbeat boyfriend, your friend from out of town, or whatever else. There are a million legit scenarios that could lead to me walking up to or past your house. The last thing you need is a dog that automatically attacks people just because they aren't easily recognizable.

Dogs have simple brains and they aren't very good at comprehending unfamiliar situations. The last thing I want is a dog that is a liability. My home is protected by Myself, Mossberg, ADT, and RPD. If I ever get a dog it will be my job to protect it, not the other way around; or it will not be part of my family. Pit or not...Those are my terms.
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You're an idiot. Seriously if you're that close to someone's kids while they are playing in THEIR yard then you are to close to begin with. Plus most people put their dogs in the backyard where the KIDS play. And, if your dumb enough to walk up to a house/kids while there is a dog there you deserve to get effed up out of pure stupidity. Most people know when the mailman or other delivery person is going to show up and will keep the dog in the house. Those are the only two should be coming to my house without notifying someone in the house. A friend from out of town will call before just stopping by and therefore will be warned of the dog. A girl that just got kicked out of her car by a douche-bag BF would probably find another house to hit up for a phone if there is a dog in the front yard. Walkers usually steer clear of dogs in yards. If your car is broke down and you are looking for a house to come up to then you should probably pick the one that doesn't have a dog in the yard. I'm sorry but most people have more common sense than to walk up to any house that has a barking dog in the front yard. So there is absolutely no reason you as a stranger should be walking up to my house uninvited.

Who in the world would let any dog they know to be territorial run loose in the front yard without supervision. Oh, I know an irresponsible dog owner that's who. This goes back to the owner taking responsibility for the dog they own.

On another note who is going to protect your house when you are not there. Are you going to shoot them with your mossberg while your at work? Are the ADT guys going to scold them over the phone and make them not steal your guns? Or is RPD going to get there in time to stop them from stealing your guns?

I'm just sayin.
 
Not going to point out how dumb some people make them selfs look on this subject .
Only reason You hear about Pit attacks, Cause the #1 Bitting dogs do NOT do as much damage. (IE) small breeds
I myself have owned allot of different dogs and only one i ever had to bite people is small breeds.
You will never see small breed dog in the news for killing someone cause it will take them 2 days to do so. So you only hear about Pits cause they cause more damage in one bite, If it has teeth it will bite. Dog,Cat,Rat what ever..
Don't blame a animal for doing what comes natural to it, We don't blame birds for flying don't blame a dog for biting....
 
You're an idiot. Seriously if you're that close to someone's kids while they are playing in THEIR yard then you are to close to begin with. Plus most people put their dogs in the backyard where the KIDS play. And, if your dumb enough to walk up to a house/kids while there is a dog there you deserve to get effed up out of pure stupidity. Most people know when the mailman or other delivery person is going to show up and will keep the dog in the house. Those are the only two should be coming to my house without notifying someone in the house. A friend from out of town will call before just stopping by and therefore will be warned of the dog. A girl that just got kicked out of her car by a douche-bag BF would probably find another house to hit up for a phone if there is a dog in the front yard. Walkers usually steer clear of dogs in yards. If your car is broke down and you are looking for a house to come up to then you should probably pick the one that doesn't have a dog in the yard. I'm sorry but most people have more common sense than to walk up to any house that has a barking dog in the front yard. So there is absolutely no reason you as a stranger should be walking up to my house uninvited.

Who in the world would let any dog they know to be territorial run loose in the front yard without supervision. Oh, I know an irresponsible dog owner that's who. This goes back to the owner taking responsibility for the dog they own.
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Just this past week I had a soliciter for "Environment NC" or something coming to my yard and a couple weeks ago it was some kid and her mom selling coupons for a school fundraiser so don't give me that crap about how you always know when people are going to come by. Furthermore, dogs don't know or respect property lines when they decide to attack. I've hiked and biked thousands of miles and I can't tell you how many times I have had people's dogs get after me. They always have some sorry excuse for why their dog was off leash. Usually it's because they haven't seen anyone else and they didn't think anyone was out. Either that or the dog got out and they didn't mean for it to. Or they were just chilling in the backyard at their country home and they didn't think anyone was going to be walking/biking down their road. In the end, I'm an American citizen and I'll travel down any public street I want to and I'll take advantage of any public lands I want to. If your P.O.S. aggressive dog has a differing opinion then we're going to have a problem.

The fact is that you can't be there to watch your dog 100% of the time. Dogs jump fences or dig under them all the time. Anyone who completely rules out the possibility of their dog getting out at the same time that a stranger visits their home is an idiot.

On another note who is going to protect your house when you are not there. Are you going to shoot them with your mossberg while your at work? Are the ADT guys going to scold them over the phone and make them not steal your guns? Or is RPD going to get there in time to stop them from stealing your guns?
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The guns are to protect me; not my property. ADT is to limit the chances of someone breaking in while I'm not there and hopefully help catch them if they do. Sure I'd be pissed, but I'd file an insurance claim and move on with my life.
 
So you're saying that you have the RIGHT as an American citizen to walk up to, around, inside, outside people's private property? If that is what you are thinking then you are going to get messed up and it will be your fault. I promise you that if you have a dog in the front yard people are not just to going walk up to your door all willy nilly. If you had a dog in the front yard you would not have had those people come to your house. Unless they are just stupid people.

No-one ruled out a dog getting out of the fence or off the lease but then we come back to the responsibility of the owner to make sure and train the dog or go through the proper preparations to make sure the dog doesn't get out; ie... electric fence, invisible fence, burying the fence etc. There are ways to keep a dog inside a fence and rarely do dogs just get out of house by them self.

Yes if you come on my property unannounced and my dog "gets after you" then you shouldn't have been on my property. I don't care if you "think" you have the right to be on my property because you are an American Citizen you don't. Guess what I don't want people coming to my house I don't want solicitors, mom and child, Jehovah witness's, or any other person coming to my door just to waste my time. In this day and age people are crazy and I don't know if that mom and child are just selling raffle tickets or if the mom is a crack head wanting to use the child to get me to open the door. So if you are this hiker/biker then you should know better than to get near someone's property that has a dog on it. Unless you are just looking to get hurt so you can file a lawsuit against the people and have the dog put down.

Of course this discussion is on vicious dogs the evil Pit Bull and it's look a like dogs. You're saying that you have had lots of dogs "get after you" so you are going under the assumption that all dogs are vicious animals because they chased you for being a stranger to them on a country road near their property. Sounds to me that you have a problem with property lines not the dog.

Just an FYI both of my dogs are inside dogs to protect my family when I am not there. If they are outside then they are in the backyard not the front and they also know that if I invite someone in my yard or house that person is okay and if you walk in without one of us then yes you run the risk of getting messed up. Still you're on my property unannounced and you deserved it.
 
So you're saying that you have the RIGHT as an American citizen to walk up to, around, inside, outside people's private property?
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You know I didn't say or imply that I have the right to walk all over your property; however, people do have the right to walk up to your front door and ring the doorbell if you don't make it blatantly obvious that they are not allowed to do so. If you don't have a fence and no trespassing signs at the entrance to your property then you're asking for it. If you think it's ok for your dog to go after a census worker or a little girl and her mom from the neighborhood just because they walked up to your door to see if you wanted to participate then you are looney and you deserve whatever lawsuit/criminal charges you might face as a result.

So if you are this hiker/biker then you should know better than to get near someone's property that has a dog on it. Unless you are just looking to get hurt so you can file a lawsuit against the people and have the dog put down.
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So if I'm hiking on public lands and your property backs up to those public lands it is my fault if your dog attacks me? Yes, I will see you in court on that one. I don't want to get attacked by a dog, but it takes a true a$$hole to let their dog attack people on property that is designated for use BY THE PUBLIC. And yes, this is one of the common scenarios I face. People buy a lot that backs up to a state park and let their dogs run free as if the whole public park belongs to them. By the time I see the dog it is usually already in aggression mode. It's not easy to avoid and even if I could avoid it I still have to get back to my car half the time. Should I spend the night in the woods because the trail I'm on goes past someone's house and that person owns a dog? Are you too stupid to see the position that puts me in?

so you are going under the assumption that all dogs are vicious animals because they chased you for being a stranger to them on a country road near their property. Sounds to me that you have a problem with property lines not the dog.
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If the dog stays on their property then it's all good, but a public road is not their property. You don't have a leg to stand on with that one. It makes you sound like you're probably one of the bad dog owners that everyone is complaining about if you tell me, an American citizen, that I can't walk down the highway my tax money paid for. GTFO with that junk.

If a person ran at me screaming just because I was walking down the road in front of their house I wouldn't hesitate to handle my business with them. I don't know why I'm supposed to tolerate someone's stupid dog doing it.
 
I have No trespassing signs and a no soliciting sign . It does not stop people from walking up on my property or bugging me . I have dogs and they will lick you to death before they would bite I am not saying they would not bite . I use to walk down to my grandfathers and there was 1 dog who would chase and nip at me . the last straw was when it cornered me . I do not like to hurt animals but this time it was called for when it lunged for me I broke it's neck . this was also after repeated words with the owner . who did not even care for the dog . The dog was a collie . this dog had also chased and bit several of the neighborhood kids but the law or the owner did nothing . I also know dogs are territorial. So even though the dog goes on public property it might be part of their territory . I also know most people are dumb and do not pa attention .
 
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