Assault rifle sales

jeepinmatt said:
Is everyone being honest with themselves here? Do you really think signing an online petition is going to make an ounce of difference? If so, sign away!
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If we don't sign them, then I guess we'll never know will we?

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jeepinmatt said:
Is everyone being honest with themselves here? Do you really think signing an online petition is going to make an ounce of difference? If so, sign away!
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It's better than how many like can I get in an hour on facebook:)
 
Leon Panetta told U.S. troops in Italy it is clear something needs to be done to protect school children so "that the nuts that are out there will not use these kinds of weapons to wipe them out.”
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Guess were all nuts:rolleyes:
 
Jeff B said:
http://www.ijreview.com/2013/01/30518-president-obamas-23-executive-orders-on-gun-violence/
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FYI A bit of original wording is missing from that. Primarily in point #2.

2. Remove needless legal barriers, particularly relating to the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act, that may prevent states from making information available to the background check system.
16. Clarify that the Affordable Care Act does not prohibit doctors from asking their patients about guns in their homes.
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This missing part in your link is added back in red above.

In case you aren't aware, the HIPPA includes the patient doctor confidentiality agreement. While I do believe the communication needs to be much better so that proper background checks can be done in the cases of medicated and mentally disabled persons, I believe this has the potential to open up quite a few loop holes. Namely number 16. While you may think you would never answer that question if a doctor asks about guns in your home, kids say the darndest things...
 
GCncsuHD said:
FYI A bit of original wording is missing from that. Primarily in point #2.


This missing part in your link is added back in red above.

In case you aren't aware, the HIPPA includes the patient doctor confidentiality agreement. While I do believe the communication needs to be much better so that proper background checks can be done in the cases of medicated and mentally disabled persons, I believe this has the potential to open up quite a few loop holes. Namely number 16. While you may think you would never answer that question if a doctor asks about guns in your home, kids say the darndest things...
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The part that aggrivates me the most about this whole thing is that they are using the CT shootings to spring board this whole thing when in fact, the guns were purchased legally and then STOLEN. It doesn't matter if they were stolen by her son or some random street thug, they were STOLEN.
 
ManglerYJ said:
The part that aggrivates me the most about this whole thing is that they are using the CT shootings to spring board this whole thing when in fact, the guns were purchased legally and then STOLEN. It doesn't matter if they were stolen by her son or some random street thug, they were STOLEN.
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Unless she purchased it prior to 1994, it was not in the state legally to start with. Connecticut has had it's own assault rifle ban since 1994, that did not expire in 2004. And possession of any "assault rifle" after 1994 is a Class D felony, so this would restrict her from owning it even if she bought it out of state and transported it in, or bought it from a private seller. The "gun control" laws failed to keep it out of her hands, and therefore her reckless handling and storage failed to keep her deranged son from stealing them.

Although Bushmaster did offer a CT legal option, since to be considered an "assault" rifle, it had to have a detachable magazine (obviously), and two more options, such as a pistol grip (which it of course had), the adjustable stock would do the AR-15 in, but Bushmaster's rifle had a pinned stock that would not adjust. SO either it was not actually an "Assault rifle" by CT's standards, or it was in the state illegally to start with by their ban.
 
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jeepinmatt said:
Is everyone being honest with themselves here? Do you really think signing an online petition is going to make an ounce of difference? If so, sign away!
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Yeah, if you look at https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petitions/popular/0/2/0 and https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/responses you can see a bit of a trend. But, like others have said, it is at least a public way to maek a statement and, in spite of the lame responses, real people outside of the government get to see an issue and form their own opinion.

Don't like giving them yet one more way to track me, but I suspect they don't need this site to find me...
 
GCncsuHD said:
Unless she purchased it prior to 1994, it was not in the state legally to start with. Connecticut has had it's own assault rifle ban since 1994, that did not expire in 2004. And possession of any "assault rifle" after 1994 is a Class D felony, so this would restrict her from owning it even if she bought it out of state and transported it in, or bought it from a private seller. The "gun control" laws failed to keep it out of her hands, and therefore her reckless handling and storage failed to keep her deranged son from stealing them.

Although Bushmaster did offer a CT legal option, since to be considered an "assault" rifle, it had to have a detachable magazine (obviously), and two more options, such as a pistol grip (which it of course had), the adjustable stock would do the AR-15 in, but Bushmaster's rifle had a pinned stock that would not adjust. SO either it was not actually an "Assault rifle" by CT's standards, or it was in the state illegally to start with by their ban.
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all fantastic points.
But kind of irrelevant since the AR wasn't even used - just handguns
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50208495#50208495

And notice that's from NBC
 
I think it was a hoax to take the heat off clinton and obama over the Bengassi problem. First it was an assult weapon, the medical examiner said most of the kids were shot with the long gun. Now the long gun never left the trunk of the car and four hand guns were found in the school. Seems like a very bad fema deal gone wrong. Why would they have a memorial service there and obama go off on a gun control speech? That just seems disrespectful to the children that were killed. Also what happened to the other guys that they caught in the woods running from the school? Way too much crap doesn't add up.
 
85 toy said:
I think it was a hoax to take the heat off clinton and obama over the Bengassi problem. First it was an assult weapon, the medical examiner said most of the kids were shot with the long gun. Now the long gun never left the trunk of the car and four hand guns were found in the school. Seems like a very bad fema deal gone wrong. Why would they have a memorial service there and obama go off on a gun control speech? That just seems disrespectful to the children that were killed. Also what happened to the other guys that they caught in the woods running from the school? Way too much crap doesn't add up.
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If you think the government murdered 20-odd first graders just so the media wouldn't talk so much about Benghazi (which they really weren't covering anyway), then you might as well put a shotgun in your mouth. It ain't like you've got anything to live for at this point.
 
shawn said:
If you think the government murdered 20-odd first graders just so the media wouldn't talk so much about Benghazi (which they really weren't covering anyway), then you might as well put a shotgun in your mouth. It ain't like you've got anything to live for at this point.
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LOL
 
I mean, what's next? They're going to burn down a church during Sunday services just so nobody pays attention to the housing numbers?
 
I don't think 20 kids were shot and killed. If you think your government won't go to such extremes you are living under a rock
 
Seriously? For any event that ever happened there is a conspiracy theory. This is no different..
I still want to see who can piss farther though so please by all means. Continue:popcorn:
 
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85 toy said:
I don't think 20 kids were shot and killed. If you think your government won't go to such extremes you are living under a rock
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So, what then? They made it all up? It never happened? The people from United 93 are living on an island 126 miles SSE of the Seychelles?
 
criket said:
I honestly think this violence comes from the first person shooter games. I know there have been these shooter games since the regular Nintendo but they have gotten a lot more violent over the past few years. I believe these type games are influencing kids more and more and especially have a bigger impact on those with mental issues (ex. above post by boatedwagon).

But this is just my opinion.
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lmao
 
Okay first things first. The rifle in question is a center-fire semi automatic rifle. Not that name that the media has spread into our minds so that we call it that as well. Its no different from the 742 woodsmaster in my closet. Lets please have all of us gun lovers get on the same page and start calling it by what it truly is and not play into the liberal media.
 
^^^ I'm sorry, but this thread has referenced so many news stories - which rifle are you referring to? Would we call it a "tactical" style semi-auto rifle? I know a lot of us like the tactical features, giving a "near" assault type experience - hey, let's be honest we like it. Let me be very clear: these are not assault weapons in terms of how a military unit would expect to put lead into a target, but they certainly are designed to put lead into whatever we're aiming at as quickly as the law allows. Deer? Paper? Let's get real honest. If I'm attacked, I want to defend myself to the fullest extent allowed by law. And, I want that law to allow me to defend myself to the fullest. Do we need military grade weapons? No. The evolution of the tactical style semi has proven the effectiveness of that rifle just like we've learned that a full-auto pistol is just a waste of money (ammo spewed).

The real issue has nothing to do with the weapon at hand, rather the jackass/mental/dumbfuck/warped/twisted/sick/prick who has it in their hands - knife, baseball bat, car, or in the case of my ex-wife, a chair.

So, what will we call it that the liberal media won't use to their advantage? A hole puncher. And, they'll still find a way to further their agenda. Fuck the liberal media. Spend our time reinforcing the fundamental concepts that are important to a free society, responsibility with whatever is in your hand, respect for others, heroism, standing up for others, coming to the aid of innocents, calling a lie a lie, not allowing the digressions of others to go unnoticed, etc. etc.

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