Broncoforjesus is not a trustworthy person to do business with

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According to what was posted elsewhere he has sent it. Keep us updated please.
 
I would like to clearly state that he was told he would be banned if he continued to bash someone on our board under the following circumstances:
A:He did not answer the questions from the Zuwharrie staff about the transaction which included but were not limited to: "Did this sale take place on Zuwharrie.com?"
B:Continued to post multiple post only to cause an issue there.

He was told early in this post to contact me, he did not.
We have rules just as this board does. If your fight has nothing to do with Zuwharrie, your fight doesn't belong there. If your fight does have something to do with Zuwharrie, contact the staff and let them try to work as a mediator in order to keep the flame wars off the board. If you can't follow those, you can find some other board to be on, we don't need the issues, we just want to chat and wheel.
If anyone has questions, I'm EASY to find, I'm the only R/T at the Zu.
Thanks for ya'lls time,
R/T
 
So if the guy is screwing someone on another board, and hasn't yet on Zu, then it shouldn't be mentioned?

Geez, I've got a big issue with that thinking.
 
Well Rich, (I'm not being a smart ass here, I say that because you cannot intone inflection in a written message, so I just wanted you to know I'm not) honestly, it's ok for you not to like our rules. After several years on the web and nearly 3000 members, not to mention being one of the largest and busiest Suzuki offroad vehicle based bbs's in the world, we are pretty sure our rules are what work for US. We don't allow people to spam our board with issues from everywhere else. This keeps flame wars to a minimum and helps keep our board a friendly fun place for people to hang on the web and meet other wheelers.
I have on many occasions helped people work out problems with sales that did not occur on our board and would have happily tried to help junkman had he done what was suggested and contacted me.
This story had two sides yet the only one heard was junkman, when B4J tried to tell his side he was ignored, made fun of and attacked. I'm not sure how you guys were able to discern who was telling the truth about the time frame given to get the title. One said he was given until spring , the other said sooner, I didn't see Ms. Cleo or the Amazing Kresky post in this thread so I'm not sure who was right.
Also, junkman wasn't threatened with the first message sent to him either. He had ignored previous pm's from other staffers about the situation yet continued to spam our board with what very well could have been false info. This may be tolerated anywhere else on the web and that's fine, but it won't be on the Zu. We like it just the way it is.
R/T
 
Rich said:
So if the guy is screwing someone on another board, and hasn't yet on Zu, then it shouldn't be mentioned?
Geez, I've got a big issue with that thinking.
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I dont think its so much a matter of not being mentioned as how the information is presented. Starting mulitble threads flaming someone over a issue from elsewhere is simply aganst the rules. In the rules it is stated that any disputes need to be aired with the mods, not on the board itself. Oh, and before you ask I'm guilty of braking that rule myself, got reminded of it and life goes on. From what I've read BFJ has the intentions of making this right, what remains to be seen if in fact it happens. Where junk went wrong was not contacting the mods either before posting multible threads or after being asked to. Thats all.

Everyone has policy that annoys someone, lets face it. What I personally like about the Zu is simple. They refuse to allow it to become the free for all flame fest of Pirate. They want and have a family oriented board and intand to keep it that way. The call outs and language of other boards simply will not be tolerated. That being said, once again, a board war does not need to start. Those do no one any good. If B4J crosses the line there he will be delt with according to the TOS of the ZU.
 
I guess I need to understand what a board war is... I thought it was when people affiliated with one board join another board and begin spamming. Aren't a large number of nc4x4 users old members of zuwharrie?

Folks here should understand that they are under ZUwharrie's rules when they post there, and that they are a local board too. Any bad behavior there, reflects on you in the community as a whole.

If someone pulled a Wenzel on Zu, pirate, earlycj5, or ifsja for example, it would end up here and be given consideration. This thread will should away once we have some resolution.

Finally, I've seen Saturday's thread on Zu from b4j. That kind of post here, would've gone a long way from the beginning. Yes, we allow the peanut gallery, but that is no excuse to avoid standing up and taking responsibility. I am hoping that b4j follows up with his promise and this can be forgotten.

J
 
I agree totally Jason, a post like that from him here surely would have helped to make things better all the way around. There are several users who frequent both boards and I certainly hope it stays that way!
R/T
 
R/T said:
Well Rich, (I'm not being a smart ass here, I say that because you cannot intone inflection in a written message, so I just wanted you to know I'm not) honestly, it's ok for you not to like our rules. After several years on the web and nearly 3000 members, not to mention being one of the largest and busiest Suzuki offroad vehicle based bbs's in the world, we are pretty sure our rules are what work for US. We don't allow people to spam our board with issues from everywhere else. This keeps flame wars to a minimum and helps keep our board a friendly fun place for people to hang on the web and meet other wheelers.
I have on many occasions helped people work out problems with sales that did not occur on our board and would have happily tried to help junkman had he done what was suggested and contacted me.
This story had two sides yet the only one heard was junkman, when B4J tried to tell his side he was ignored, made fun of and attacked. I'm not sure how you guys were able to discern who was telling the truth about the time frame given to get the title. One said he was given until spring , the other said sooner, I didn't see Ms. Cleo or the Amazing Kresky post in this thread so I'm not sure who was right.
Also, junkman wasn't threatened with the first message sent to him either. He had ignored previous pm's from other staffers about the situation yet continued to spam our board with what very well could have been false info. This may be tolerated anywhere else on the web and that's fine, but it won't be on the Zu. We like it just the way it is.
R/T
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I never read the first warning or the questions this person is refering to. I don't know if i accidently deleted them or never received them. Also in another thread b4j has admitted to his wrong doing.
 
junkman said:
I never read the first warning or the questions this person is refering to. I don't know if i accidently deleted them or never received them. Also in another thread b4j has admitted to his wrong doing.
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From the outside looking in, it appears he knows he fawked up. My only question is would he have stepped up (if he follows through) without the "bashing"? That question remains and will remain unanswered. On the PM subject RT will have to answer that one. Hence my reasons for wanting the final outcome posted here. Dont take a warning too personal. Thats a forgive, live and let live bunch over there in general.


Hobie, my understanding of a board war is pretty much as you described, many members from another board flooding a BB with spam and general assholery. I watched one unfold on POR several years back and the only real loser was the guy who wrote the bandwidth check. Everyone else was just common assholes.


Generally speaking, most boards from what I've seen do not want or care about bad deals from other boards and that includes pirate. I would guess that would not be etched in stone depending on who the players were.
 
Ratman said:
Generally speaking, most boards from what I've seen do not want or care about bad deals from other boards and that includes pirate.
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Not any I've ever been on. Including this one
 
Back on topic, you got the title yesterday, right???

I mean hell, it's past the middle of the month...damn near the END of Feb.
 
CasterTroy said:
Not any I've ever been on. Including this one
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I for one hope anyone who has bad dealings with someone in thi hobby lets uss all know about it.

Think about the now in famous Wemzel on PBB only after screwing someone ther did it come to light that he had a history of mis dealing with folks on other boards.

As a 4x4 community we are not EBAY all our transactions do not take place in one place, however trash is trash and people who screw people one place will likely screw others elsewhere. I think it is only good stewardship to alert others to those they may be dealing with, I am not condoning ignoring another message boards rules or anything of that sort only making a point that if we dont look after each other no one else will.
 
Ratman said:
Generally speaking, most boards from what I've seen do not want or care about bad deals from other boards and that includes pirate.
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I'm not so sure about that. There have been many, many instances on PBB of guys trying to screw people there that have screwed others elsewhere, or vice versa. Whether or not somebody gets called out for bringing a conflict from one board to another depends highly on the context.
 
Rich said:
Back on topic, you got the title yesterday, right???
I mean hell, it's past the middle of the month...damn near the END of Feb.
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No title as of 11:06 2/21/06. If and when I receive it I will post it.
 
ShyHiK5 said:
I for one hope anyone who has bad dealings with someone in thi hobby lets uss all know about it.
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Exactly

Getting screwed is getting screwed....if I don't like pirate, that doesn't mean I want someone FROM pirate to get screwed, so I'll warn them, even if I don't like the board itself (just an example)

Board loyalty and preference is one thing..but sheilding potential bad sellers from your members because you don't want carry-over drama is stupid
 
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It's the kind of thing that says "No, do not attach a Jeep TJ front bumper onto the front of a S-10" :flipoff2:
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You're just jealous cause it actually does work. :p
 
Okay, now that I have that little matter taken care of... any sign of that title yet?
 
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Back on topic, you got the title yesterday, right???
I mean hell, it's past the middle of the month...damn near the END of Feb.

No title as of 11:06 2/21/06. If and when I receive it I will post it
 
CasterTroy said:
Board loyalty and preference is one thing..but sheilding potential bad sellers from your members because you don't want carry-over drama is stupid
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True, and R/T even said that Zu does the have some exceptions for certain cases. However, a non-member coming in and spamming a bunch of threads is more of a nuisance than a service. The approach could've been better.

J
 
hobie said:
True, and R/T even said that Zu does the have some exceptions for certain cases. However, a non-member coming in and spamming a bunch of threads is more of a nuisance than a service. The approach could've been better.
J
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Just to clarify thing, I joined the board so I am a member, and I only posted on two threads, one thread I started, and one where b4j was asking for a part,so I asked for my title. Is two posts considered a bunch? Is two threads considered spamming? One more thing, it's 7:00 pm 2/21/06 and no title in the mail today.
 
A year or so ago, Aaron871 got screwed in a deal on POR... he posted the same "screwed story" and it went about 150 replies deep... with many offerings to ride over to the kids house and squeeze the $$ out of him.
Idle threats? Maybe...
Sincerely ready to open a can on the punk, because it could have been them? Guaranteed!
Just in case his handle "mysteriously" changes from B4J... What's his REAL name? Whether he comes through with the title or not... I'm sure many don't want to deal with him at all now, no matter what he's calling himself.
 
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