Running over a sapling?
Ok I will bite. Why is that hurting the land? Why does that sapling deserve to live there? Why not another sapling somewhere else?
This is another area where I need enlightening. I'll reply to your question with another question. Why do those saplings get to live on public land? It's not like 99% of the guys out there give a rats ass about it, it's not harming the other guys if you run it over, so you're still respecting them and being considerate of them. So what's keeping you (us) from running one over at URE?
Again, I'll reiterate, I never said not to use...nor did I say not to have fun. But I do believe there is a breaking point for the ecosystem as I mentioned earlier, where that is, your guess is as good as mine. And my point wasn't about 'single' time use just blowing off steam, we've all been there, it was more about repeated abuse to do nothing more than be destroy the land or tear stuff up.
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I dunno about that... you seem all right, maybe a bit misguided on this one thing... but all right. Dave, on the other hand... Dave's a commie bastard. He had to move to MD to be closer to his own kind
I appreciate that.
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I dunno about that... you seem all right, maybe a bit misguided on this one thing... but all right. Dave, on the other hand... Dave's a commie bastard. He had to move to MD to be closer to his own kind
Well some here have college degrees and even graduate degrees just to be able to answer that question, not just guess....
And I hope to deal with you again in the future. But my last piece will be that 4 wheeling is just one of those things usually brought into your life as a kid. Although slightly different for the day, it was my dad who introduced me to it. It's fun times that will stick in my head til I die. Having fun and being a tad reckless every now and then develops "character". It's just one of those "American ways" that we were brought up in. But then of course there was alot of kids brought up in a more arrogant fashion in their mother's arms who look down on "character" as a red-neck careless destructive way of life.
You have to accept that 4 wheeling and leaving things better in your direct path does not go together until they invent bubble tires. Unless you return the next day to count every tree you ran over and plant that many and then some new ones. Trees are just too plentiful now days and can grow anywhere. We can't watch our every step to be sure we're not taking out an ant's life. We're human. Human's are not perfect.
But in my opinion, it is FAR from being a destructive sport. And there's not even a gray line at all on the 4 wheeling aspect of destruction. There's so much all around us happening that is much worse. Every drop of oil that hits a curbed street has a paved road to a concrete storm system that dumps out at the lowest point of the project directly at the streams. A "boost" into our streams with absolutely no resistance. Until an alternative to oil is introduced, or when they come out with engine diapers that won't catch fire, I ain't one to check, but I would guarantee even your 79 bronco left at least one drop of oil on my land when you came by? And you prabably took out a couple saplings when you drove down as close you could below my shop to load up?
The world's headed straight to hell in a hand basket fellas. Some prefer roses along for the journey, I prefer rocket engines.
We have about tens miles of ATV trails on ours, and last winter I widened the longest so I could do this:
Judging by the tracks that I find, the wildlife don't mind at all. Irresponsible people letting their dogs run loose does more damage than my vehicles.
