Failure to deliver titile

Oh ( kick to the nuts)
 
Buy a truck get the owner to sign it and then get it notarize later. They are watchin notarys these days. A friend of mine that notarize all my titles said they pass a law that the vehcile title you are notaize the seller and the buyer have to be there to sign the title at the same time. She told me alot of people were gettin in trouble for not doin that. These cases where you buy a vehcile and dont title the vechile in your name and leave it in the the person you bought it from than sell it again thats why they are puttting a stop to this. Thats why the owner and buyer have to be there at the same time or they cant do it.
 
This all sounds like a bunch of BS to me. If you want the title, right?? Have your mechanic do about $50 worth of legit work. Have him slap a mechanics lean on it and then you get your title. Little bit out of the way, but easy enough to do. You'll probably come out easier this way than trying to get a theiving rat to come up with something that he doesn't want to mess with. I'd also see about having the DMV run a title search on the vin and see if it has a lien on it already for some reason. If it does??? You're toast on getting the title without paying off what might be left of the lien. Just my 2 cents. And btw, I used to be a car dealer. Not that it makes me an expert, but it does mean that I've been around the block a time or two with a problem like this.
 
Post27312 said:
This all sounds like a bunch of BS to me. If you want the title, right?? Have your mechanic do about $50 worth of legit work. Have him slap a mechanics lean on it and then you get your title. Little bit out of the way, but easy enough to do. You'll probably come out easier this way than trying to get a theiving rat to come up with something that he doesn't want to mess with. I'd also see about having the DMV run a title search on the vin and see if it has a lien on it already for some reason. If it does??? You're toast on getting the title without paying off what might be left of the lien. Just my 2 cents. And btw, I used to be a car dealer. Not that it makes me an expert, but it does mean that I've been around the block a time or two with a problem like this.
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The mechs lien process aint that simple. Also, most require a "auction" of the vehicle to the highest bidder. Simple enough to work around but a PITA non the less.
 
The vehicle is in your possesion, so, you could send the guy a certified letter letting hi know he has 30 days to remove the vehicle and return your money, or sign over the tittle. He'll ignore you/refuse to do anything, then file an abandoned vehicle claim with DMV, then you will be able to get a new tittle. Contact the DMV on specifics for abandon vehicle laws/rules/regs.
 
Chris_M said:
The vehicle is in your possesion, so, you could send the guy a certified letter letting hi know he has 30 days to remove the vehicle and return your money, or sign over the tittle. He'll ignore you/refuse to do anything, then file an abandoned vehicle claim with DMV, then you will be able to get a new tittle. Contact the DMV on specifics for abandon vehicle laws/rules/regs.
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Oh Snap! I forgot about that. I actually did this when I was 18 about 7 years ago. The same exact thing happened and my Lawyer at the time (Dane Patrick) in San Antonio told me to do this. IT worked too. Good Job Chris M!:beer:
 
Whatever you do (and do it soon), just be sure that all communication is documant-able and trace-able. E.g., send him the letter via certified mail, or better yet a courier w/ signature required. That way you have something to show the judge when/if it becomes an issue.
 
Here is another fun trick, although it is a little sleezy/below the belt (not a preference of mine). Dig around and find out where he works, see if you can get an email address for both him and his boss/supervisor. Email him about it, being very polite but firm, with wording so that the situation is fully disclosed. Again, being cordial/professional. CC his boss on the email.
While technically mixing boundaries, this can work for you for a couple of reasons. 1 - Boss may be conciencous about the image of his company and employees. He will get pissy and turn up the heat on thie fellow to take care of his business, as he dos not want his employees giving the compan ya bad rep.
2 - Boss may be his buddy, and not give a rats ass. However he will still be very anoyed that he is getting email about this other fellow's business. At the very least, he will say *something* whether bad or not, to said fellow. This also gets the heats turned up.

Again, not a very socially coother thing to do, but not illegal and will help you out.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Here is another fun trick, although it is a little sleezy/below the belt (not a preference of mine). Dig around and find out where he works, see if you can get an email address for both him and his boss/supervisor. Email him about it, being very polite but firm, with wording so that the situation is fully disclosed. Again, being cordial/professional. CC his boss on the email.
While technically mixing boundaries, this can work for you for a couple of reasons. 1 - Boss may be conciencous about the image of his company and employees. He will get pissy and turn up the heat on thie fellow to take care of his business, as he dos not want his employees giving the compan ya bad rep.
2 - Boss may be his buddy, and not give a rats ass. However he will still be very anoyed that he is getting email about this other fellow's business. At the very least, he will say *something* whether bad or not, to said fellow. This also gets the heats turned up.
Again, not a very socially coother thing to do, but not illegal and will help you out.
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FYI...the truck was parked at his work (he's not the business owner) for the last year...

boss man should be well aware of the issue...

plus, I'm guessing the transaction took place on the company's property...

(I only know this because I went and looked at the same truck a week earlier, but the guy couldn't get the vehicle to crank)...

Greg
 
jeepercreature said:
Oh Snap! I forgot about that. I actually did this when I was 18 about 7 years ago. The same exact thing happened and my Lawyer at the time (Dane Patrick) in San Antonio told me to do this. IT worked too. Good Job Chris M!:beer:
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I'm with UpNover on this one. Change the way you do business dude! Seems like a reoccurring problem with you.
 
R Q said:
I'm with UpNover on this one. Change the way you do business dude! Seems like a reoccurring problem with you.
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With his visit to the DMV and the involvement of a Gaston-area DMV inspector, it appears that "dude" HAS changed the way he "does business". While the title was (I assume) held for total payment on the Sammy - which, it appears, was received - the title here was promised "as soon as it gets back". The 4Runner has not been re-sold, but he is just trying to get what was promised in order to get it registered and back on the road.
Not being a jerk, but I did want to point out a few things to stop the momentum of the "I don't really have a dog in this fight at all, but what goes around comes around" Bandwagon...
 
Nope. The same thing happened. basically. when he had paid in full, and come to get the Sammy, only then did I realize that I had not yet put it in my name. It had been signed and notarized, but never sent off, which was my fault totally. He trusted me, just as he trusted this other guy to get the title for him. The difference is, I spent the money to get it back in my name, so I could give it to him, and this guy has not. I don't like selling a vehicle to anyone and not properly doing the title work. It's just hard to trust people. But, I have done it to those I have known and trusted. But it's really not a good practice. Leaves you without a leg to stand on.
 
Chip I sent you a PM


Thanks for all of the help guys. I know to be more careful about what I buy from now on.

I have been to the DMV on the past two fridays. The inspector is gone all the time trying to bust the bad guys.
 
I don't know about where you live, but the inspector office I've been to in Lexington, the guy leaves @ 10AM for duties "in the field", so you have to get there before then.
 
Same thing here you have be there by 10 AM.
 
Yo,
Tough lession.

Go to dude's place and call the local cops. Tell dispatcher you need to have police presence to intrepret the law. When cop arrives, you all can have a civil discussion on how to resolve the title problem. You are also showing dude that the heat has been turned up and its now in his best interest to come clean and play ball. Your concern should be harboring a vehicle titled in dudes name. Furthermore, if title is held due to a mechanics lein or loan, man you are really screwed. But, if that is the case, I would press for a refund in the cops presence with a date and time for refund and return of runner.

:beer:
 
Ditto. Pretty much teh same w/ any county inspectors, whether for electrical, mechanical, fire, etc etc.

Have you at least sent a formal registered letter?
 
I'm in charleston right now and I have the letter typed up right now. I'm going to put it in the mail when i get home. I don't have his adress here with me.
 
Tell dispatcher you need to have police presence to intrepret the law
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wait... get a police officer to interpret the law? are you serious? no offense to LEO's at all, but the large majority of them are hardly educated/competent enough to interpret basic traffic laws, much less a situation like this.

i do agree a police presence would be a smart move if you decide to do any personal confrontations for witness purposes.
 
RufusTheRam said:
wait... get a police officer to interpret the law? are you serious? no offense to LEO's at all, but the large majority of them are hardly educated/competent enough to interpret basic traffic laws, much less a situation like this.
i do agree a police presence would be a smart move if you decide to do any personal confrontations for witness purposes.
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Hardly Educated at all huh, wow that shows ignorance on your part by far. Do you know any LEO's personally? I've been through BLET, and have my 2-year in Criminal Justice but maybe thats not much education where you come from?
 
still haven't heard anything from the Gaston County inspector...I got the number and I'm going to call as soon as they open. I also got the number of Ron's ex wife...maybe she can shed some light on the situation...
 
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