Handgun Travel Laws

[Ron]

I wasn't calling you stupid, I was just saying people who know the law shouldn't act stupid, sorry if you took it as directed at you personally. As for the rest of what I said about having it in the car, that is covered in the CCW training handbook. The last thing is just my opinion, you are entitled to yours too.

Again, knowing the law doesn't prevent you from being in situations that force you to break it.
If you have children you can't plan that one of them may get hurt requiring you to go to their school. You can't enter that paying lot with it in your vehicle.

Of course I took it as directed at me, you quoted my post and replied.

 

[Ron]

So.....in turn. Is this sorta thing just acceptable elsewhere? Is this sorta thing more widespread then I realize? Is this why people berate the police state of our nation?
All question by someone who obviously doesn't travel much outside a one state radius.
Not that I live in a bubble or under a rock but damn. I thought this was Merica!

Yep. Remember a year or so ago when police in Maryland killed a man in custody and I and a select few others railed against the abuse of power?

But I was largely condemned for not worshiping at the blue altar. When in fact many just saw a young black dude with a record and said good riddance. Remember that story next time you see a minority class burning a city or protesting. Not that it makes their actions right, but if they've lived with that harassment their entire life, with no way to escape...it explains without excusing.

 

[WARRIORWELDING]

I do remember. Your last statement was well put. I cannot imagine living with that constant abuse or hovering big brother policeman. I respect the badge and the job. I have been through a few liscence checks that entirely made me angry and on edge. The biggest issue I guess is living in good ol NC and my habbits make me innoculated to the realities.
The real big problem is not one focused organization has chosen to address it maturely or in a way that isn't criminal. The BLM movement became mute when they lost public respect by breaking many laws and acting like it was just inflicted upon them only.

 

[ckruzer]

I feel the very definition of a police state explains why the issue can’t be petitioned, complained, or legislated against. Once it happens it grows to the moment of entropy regardless what anyone wants.

 

[WARRIORWELDING]

I feel the very definition of a police state explains why the issue can’t be petitioned, complained, or legislated against. Once it happens it grows to the moment of entropy regardless what anyone wants.

Entropy in this case directly related to several generations of Apathy. Bred by Democratic votes bought by Federal Programs resulting in what we have today. And I'm not just saying poor Black America. Its the whole generational dependency and it's related abuses, loop holes, and purpetual black hole.
I'm no tin foil hat conspiracy fella.......but this country is reeping the seeds that have been planted and cultivated by big Government since right before the Vietnam War. Starting right before and during the Kennedy administration.....and then masked and followed by Johnson and Nixon. It has been bloody corrupt for years. Its my honest opinion that Roosevelt may have been this countries last Patriot President. I profess I am not a great historian but I try to pay attention with a broad viewpoint. We got a great country but our big Government is more rapidly putting the sheep's wool over its on eyes.


Damn this took a:

 

[Paul]

Quoting this because it's completely about something that would tear me up. It's off the original topic but now great for discussion.
How or I should say why does something like this widely known keep happening?
I mean sure around NC we get to grow up and live a little different. I just can't rationalize the tolerance of this sort of policing. Locals, non locals, travelers, any of it.
So.....in turn. Is this sorta thing just acceptable elsewhere? Is this sorta thing more widespread then I realize? Is this why people berate the police state of our nation?
All question by someone who obviously doesn't travel much outside a one state radius.
Not that I live in a bubble or under a rock but damn. I thought this was Merica!

My rant.
I do not fear any LEO. 99.9% are doing their chosen profession and just want to get home safe and alive after work.
They protect and serve while on duty, with death being a reality. I applaud that.
I do fear a police state where the GD politicians take over what an officer should "enforce"
In summary, don't hate the cops, hate the fucking talking heads that dictate policy.
I'm sure i'll catch shit from this post and 'Dre is ready!
Flame suit is on.
My name is Paul and i don't give a shit what you think about me.

 

[WARRIORWELDING]

My rant.
I do not fear any LEO. 99.9% are doing their chosen profession and just want to get home safe and alive after work.
They protect and serve while on duty, with death being a reality. I applaud that.
I do fear a police state where the GD politicians take over what an officer should "enforce"
In summary, don't hate the cops, hate the fucking talking heads that dictate policy.
I'm sure i'll catch shit from this post and 'Dre is ready!
Flame suit is on.
My name is Paul and i don't give a shit what you think about me.

We are on the same page.

 

[shawn]

The National Reciprocity Bill is in Congress, nearing a vote in the House where it should pass. The Senate will be the PITA as it usually is. That will make it easier to travel with a Conceal Carry.

You mean the Concealed Carry bill that's sponsored by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer? The entire purpose of that bill is to expand the NICS database. The word on the street is that the reciprocity provisions will be stripped out of the final bill.

GOP Gun Control? | GOA News

 

[blakews2217]

My rant.
I do not fear any LEO. 99.9% are doing their chosen profession and just want to get home safe and alive after work.
They protect and serve while on duty, with death being a reality. I applaud that.
I do fear a police state where the GD politicians take over what an officer should "enforce"
In summary, don't hate the cops, hate the fucking talking heads that dictate policy.
I'm sure i'll catch shit from this post and 'Dre is ready!
Flame suit is on.
My name is Paul and i don't give a shit what you think about me.

I can’t agree more. Talk about a nazi state, I’m living in Illinois right now. I’m 19 and have a few guns. My father has a class 4 felony from something that’s a mere ticket now over 20 years ago. He just let it be and got on with his life. Now he’s a matured adult who can’t get a gun because of that felony. He has to pay a lawyer. I get it felony’s are a thing to stop big criminals but hampers man owns his own small business and wants to have some pice of mind because of where his building is at. We’ve found many casings and bullets in the parking lot. The law here is you need to be 21 for a handgun and all the CCW classes require you to be 21 with your own hand gun. All that and I can go get a gun for 200 on the street no questions. My my how big brother has to be in everything or it’s illegal.


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[1-tonmudder]

Every time I have been stopped I have shown my ccp w my drivers liscense and never had a problem.Ive been told not to do that but I want it right out front so he,she.they know I'm not hiding anything.

 

[NC_IslandRunner]

Again, knowing the law doesn't prevent you from being in situations that force you to break it.
If you have children you can't plan that one of them may get hurt requiring you to go to their school. You can't enter that paying lot with it in your vehicle.

Of course I took it as directed at me, you quoted my post and replied.

After reading this, it is now directed at you. You might want to go take the CCW class, you don't have to get the permit if you don't want, but you obviously need the information it can teach you. The laws may have changed since you last took the course. If you are in a situation that forces you to break the law, then you got there with you own ignorance or carelessness. The laws here favor the gun owner greatly, so if you are breaking them it is your own fault, this isn't California.

 

[justjeepin86]

If you are in a situation that forces you to break the law, then you got there with you own ignorance or carelessness. The laws here favor the gun owner greatly, so if you are breaking them it is your own fault, this isn't California.

I was not able to get to the school until 1 hour after dismissal - and that was without driving 25 minutes past the school to the house and then 25 minutes back

In his instance, he had an emergency and had to stop and pick up his kid from school. Is that ignorance or his own fault for not knowing that there would be an emergency? From my CC class, in NC, I was instructed that I could carry a gun on the school property, in my car. BUT, as soon as I was there, it had to be put in transport mode locked up as soon as I was there. It could not be removed until off of the property. It's been a few years ago that I took it. Not sure if that is legit or not.

 

[Jeff B]

You mean the Concealed Carry bill that's sponsored by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer? The entire purpose of that bill is to expand the NICS database. The word on the street is that the reciprocity provisions will be stripped out of the final bill.

GOP Gun Control? | GOA News

This.

Frankenstein and shit head would strip every idea of the 2nd amendment is they could.

 

[Ron]

In his instance, he had an emergency and had to stop and pick up his kid from school. Is that ignorance or his own fault for not knowing that there would be an emergency? From my CC class, in NC, I was instructed that I could carry a gun on the school property, in my car. BUT, as soon as I was there, it had to be put in transport mode locked up as soon as I was there. It could not be removed until off of the property. It's been a few years ago that I took it. Not sure if that is legit or not.

This.

And again, in SC, it is illegal to have a gun on school property. Regardless of loaded/unloaded or locked or concealed or or or...if you are not an LEO no gun on school property.

Few, had I do it over again, I'd have parked on the road and walked up to the school.

 

[shawn]

This.

Frankenstein and shit head would strip every idea of the 2nd amendment is they could.

Yeah, honestly surprised this isn't getting more attention.

 

[tlucier]

You mean the Concealed Carry bill that's sponsored by Dianne Feinstein and Chuck Schumer? The entire purpose of that bill is to expand the NICS database. The word on the street is that the reciprocity provisions will be stripped out of the final bill.

GOP Gun Control? | GOA News

Thank you for posting this link. Shame on me for not thoroughly researching the details of that bill. It was eye opening (to say the least) to see the BS that's included and I too am surprised this is not getting more attention.

 

[JSJJ388]

This.

And again, in SC, it is illegal to have a gun on school property. Regardless of loaded/unloaded or locked or concealed or or or...if you are not an LEO no gun on school property.

Few, had I do it over again, I'd have parked on the road and walked up to the school.

Ron, in your case being in SC I understand that the laws seem to be vastly different. Here in nc you can keep it locked in your vehicle. The only place you are not allowed to lock it in the car is the post office. Anywhere else you can at the least, leave it in the car. The laws here in NC greatly favor the gun owner. I would advise anyone who likes to carry, or even just wants less hassle and more knowledge when buying guns to get their CCW in NC. It is worth every penny.

 

[Jeff B]

Ron, in your case being in SC I understand that the laws seem to be vastly different. Here in nc you can keep it locked in your vehicle. The only place you are not allowed to lock it in the car is the post office. Anywhere else you can at the least, leave it in the car. The laws here in NC greatly favor the gun owner. I would advise anyone who likes to carry, or even just wants less hassle and more knowledge when buying guns to get their CCW in NC. It is worth every penny.

Wrong.

Cannot carry in or on school property. Can lock in car.

State property, DOT facility, court houses, sheriffs stations ect, ect.. not sure about locking in car on state properties.

 

[JSJJ388]

Wrong.

Cannot carry in or on school property. Can lock in car.

State property, DOT facility, court houses, sheriffs stations ect, ect.. not sure about locking in car on state properties.

What is wrong? I just said that you can lock it in your car on school property. The ONLY place that you are not allowed to at the minimum lock it in your car is the post office. You are not even allowed to have it in the car at the PO. On school property, you may carry on your person if you are in your vehicle. If you leave the vehicle, the gun must be locked in the car, or a locked container securely affixed to the the vehicle. I just went through the class and have read the pertinent codes a dozen times.

 

[JSJJ388]

here is the code pertaining to school grounds. Full code here: https://www.ncga.state.nc.us/gascripts/statutes/statutelookup.pl?statute=14-269.2

(k) The provisions of this section shall not apply to a person who has a concealed handgun permit that is valid under Article 54B of this Chapter, or who is exempt from obtaining a permit pursuant to that Article, if any of the following conditions are met:

(1) The person has a handgun in a closed compartment or container within the person's locked vehicle or in a locked container securely affixed to the person's vehicle and only unlocks the vehicle to enter or exit the vehicle while the firearm remains in the closed compartment at all times and immediately locks the vehicle following the entrance or exit.

(2) The person has a handgun concealed on the person and the person remains in the locked vehicle and only unlocks the vehicle to allow the entrance or exit of another person.

(3) The person is within a locked vehicle and removes the handgun from concealment only for the amount of time reasonably necessary to do either of the following:

a. Move the handgun from concealment on the person to a closed compartment or container within the vehicle.

b. Move the handgun from within a closed compartment or container within the vehicle to concealment on the person.

EDIT:
Also here is the code that permits you to use said weapon should the need arise

(l) It is an affirmative defense to a prosecution under subsection (b) or (f) of this section that the person was authorized to have a concealed handgun in a locked vehicle pursuant to subsection (k) of this section and removed the handgun from the vehicle only in response to a threatening situation in which deadly force was justified pursuant to G.S. 14-51.3. (1971, c. 241, ss. 1, 2; c. 1224; 1991, c. 622, s. 1; 1993, c. 539, s. 164; c. 558, s. 1; 1994, Ex. Sess., c. 14, s. 4(a), (b); 1995, c. 49, s. 1; 1997-238, s. 2; 1999-211, s. 1; 1999-257, s. 3, 3.1; 2003-217, s. 1; 2004-198, ss. 1, 2, 3; 2006-264, s. 31; 2007-427, s. 6; 2007-511, s. 12; 2011-268, s. 4; 2013-360, ss. 8.45(a), (b); 2013-369, s. 2; 2014-119, s. 9(a); 2015-195, ss. 2, 3.)

 

[Jeff B]

The only place you are not allowed to lock it in the car is the post office. Anywhere else you can at the least, leave it in the car.

State property, DOT facility, court houses, sheriffs stations ect, ect.. not sure about locking in car on state properties.

 

[JSJJ388]

Right out of the regs. Link: http://www.ncdoj.gov/getdoc/32344299-a2a7-4ae5-99fd-9018262f64ac/NC-Firearms-gun-Laws.aspx

3. State Buildings It is also unlawful under State law, for any person to possess or carry a weapon not used for instructional or officially sanctioned ceremonial purposes, in the State Capitol Building, Executive Mansion, Western Residence of the Governor, or on the grounds of these buildings, including any building used to house any court of the General Court of Justice. Possessing or carrying a weapon in these areas is a misdemeanor. Of note, a person may possess an ordinary pocket knife (as defined in 14-269 (d) and Section III. A. of this publication) in the State Capital Building or on the grounds of the State Capital Building. Persons exempted by the provisions of N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-269(b) are not bound by this prohibition. These persons are set forth in Paragraph III. A. of this publication. Also exempt are persons in possession of weapons for evidentiary purposes, or who are delivering the weapon to a law enforcement agency, or for purposes of registration. Additionally, this prohibition does not apply to firearms carried in courthouses by detention officers employed by and authorized by the sheriff to carry firearms. District and Superior Court Judges may also possess firearms in courthouses when in the performance of their duties and the Judge has a valid North Carolina concealed carry permit. Also, any magistrate may possess a concealed handgun in any courthouse if the magistrate (i) is in the building to discharge the magistrate's official duties, (ii) has a North Carolina concealed handgun permit, (iii) has successfully completed a one-time weapons retention training substantially similar to that provided to certified law enforcement officers in North Carolina, and (iv) secures the weapon in a locked compartment when the weapon is not on the magistrate's person. This prohibition further does not apply to State-owned rest areas, rest stops along the highways, and State-owned hunting and fishing reservations. Additionally, this prohibition does not apply to a person with a permit issued in accordance with Article 54B of this Chapter, considered valid under N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.24, or who is exempt from obtaining a permit pursuant to N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.25, who has a firearm in a closed compartment or container within the person's locked vehicle or in a locked container securely affixed to the person's vehicle. A person may unlock the vehicle to enter or exit the vehicle provided the firearm remains in the closed compartment at all times and the vehicle is locked immediately following the entrance or exit. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-269.4 and N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.11(c).

 

[ckruzer]

South Carolina Code 16-23-430. Carrying weapon on school property; concealed weapons
Current as of: 2016 | Check for updates | Other versions
(A) It shall be unlawful for any person, except state, county, or municipal law enforcement officers or personnel authorized by school officials, to carry on his person, while on any elementary or secondary school property, a knife, with a blade over two inches long, a blackjack, a metal pipe or pole, firearms, or any other type of weapon, device, or object which may be used to inflict bodily injury or death.



(B) This section does not apply to a person who is authorized to carry a concealed weapon pursuant to Article 4, Chapter 31, Title 23 when the weapon remains inside an attended or locked motor vehicle and is secured in a closed glove compartment, closed console, closed trunk, or in a closed container secured by an integral fastener and transported in the luggage compartment of the vehicle.

 

[Jeff B]

Gen. Stat. § 14-415.25, who has a firearm in a closed compartment or container within the person's locked vehicle or in a locked container securely affixed to the person's vehicle. A person may unlock the vehicle to enter or exit the vehicle provided the firearm remains in the closed compartment at all times and the vehicle is locked immediately following the entrance or exit. N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-269.4 and N.C. Gen. Stat. § 14-415.11(c).

Fair enough. I stand corrected. This has changed since my class.

 

[Jeff B]

Im not really a stickler for rules, but when it comes to my freedom, I take it seriously. I dont want anyone to end up in trouble.

You gave me forest Whitaker eyes...