I have been waiting to see where this thread was going before I posted up.
I honestly do not think the flaming was so bad when he asked for help getting out. Actually I think everyone on here offered to help him out, except me I don't know where anything is nor is my jeep up to wheel anything except a paved road. The biggest problem he had was that he was on land that is considered illegal to wheel so a lot of people don't want to risk getting busted and having to pay the fine, and, if they got caught it would be just another ahole wheeler tearing up the land. This would just give the tree huggers more ammo to use making everyone with a modified SUV out to be some sort of monster.
When I was in SD a friend of mine called on me to help him and a guy he knew off a "legal" trail; I went out there and spent a good 6 hours getting them off the trail. On the way out he was being towed by a bronco that was out there and ended up rolling his truck over on his top. Needless to say he wasn't going anywhere after that. He was going to get it off the trail the next day but before he even had the chance it made front page news with a giant picture of his truck on it's top at the very end of the trail. I got chastised for this just because I knew him and helped him out and it was way worse than what was said in this forum, because the media basically blamed all wheelers for the incident saying we just didn't care about the land. So that just proves that even one person getting caught in an illegal place can get everyone in trouble.
Did he deserve the flaming? Yup, he sure did and so should everyone else that gets stuck in a place they shouldn't be. Once we have done so then we work on how to get him out of there before he gets caught so it doesn't make big/bad news for the rest of us.
To combat this I personally organized a clean up of a popular shooting/off-road area (Forest Service took all the credit)
here is the link.
http://www.fs.fed.us/r2/blackhills/news/2005/05/11berettavolunteers.shtml
and the article, my jeep club is highlighted.
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News Release
USDA Forest Service
Black Hills National Forest
Contact: Jeni Lawver or Eugene Bolka (605) 343-1567, or email us at r2 blackhills
webinfo@fs.fed.us
THANK YOU TO BERETTA ROAD VOLUNTEERS
RAPID CITY, SD: MAY 11, 2005
Cold weather couldn’t keep volunteers from cleaning up Beretta Road shooting areas on April 30 and Forest officials are grateful.
Volunteers removed trash and appliances that had been dumped along the road and in the forest. The Off Road Riders,
Black Hills Jeeps, Dakota Cruisers, Ellsworth AFB, Tau Beta Phi (SDSM&T), S.D. Gun Owners, Rapid City Rifle Club, and many others pitched in to clean the area. A group of work release volunteers, provided by the Pennington County Sheriff, also worked on the project.
The Rapid City Landfill accepted trash from six fully loaded dump trucks and two one-ton pick-ups and one truckload of tires free of charge.
The Forest Service sincerely appreciates the contributions of this highly motivated group of volunteers in cleaning up an area that had become an eyesore for residents and visitors to the beautiful Black Hills.
Officials are reminding the public to keep the area clean and if they pack it in, please pack it out.
If you observe anyone dumping items on public lands, please contact the Mystic Ranger District at 343-1567. Violators can be fined $250 and billed for the clean up costs. The maximum fine that can be imposed for this offense is $5,000 and/or six months in jail.
I guess the point of this big post is that it takes so much hard work from everyone in the off-road community to fix even the smallest infraction made by one person. So I'm glad he got help to get out and just hope this type of thing doesn't happen to much more often.