Housing market trash

I really, truly don't get it either. I have my mortgage payment and equipment payments (more than pay for themselves, and I consider 'good debt'). I've mentioned several times now, I increased my plant floor wages 30-50% back in October. I still have several folks that still come ask for loans. I started having conversations with these people to try to determine if they're taking care of other family, if they're taking their new 'extra' and putting it towards retirement, or what the deal is? I do have one lady tell me she actually invested in a rental trailer on a beach somewhere. I was proud of her, the rest of them...the increase in wages just meant instead of stretching a carton of cigarettes a week, now meant they could buy two cartons...instead of stretching a case of beer for the week, now they can buy 2-3 cases of beer. I feel really bad for a couple of them, because they decided against applying $50 of the net $3-500/month increase in wages to short term disability (open enrollment was November)...and they're out of work for several weeks. It blows my mind, because I consider alot of the folks to be semi-educated or at least know what kind of environment they were brought up in.
i dont get it. i didnt get any help paying for college so i ended up in a pretty good amount of debit due to school. i see school as an investment in my future. Im making slightly more than i was before i went back to school BUT id be pretty much capped at my income level now, with my degree i should still be increasing in worth. All that said after the flood i realized stuff needed to change. since September ive payed off 30% of my debit. and once i finish the next side job it should be close to 75% payed off. it sucks to work my ass off just to pay off debit and not have anything to show for it but id rather do this for a year. then do a small job and decided to go out west for a week or so if i want and not put any of it on credit.
 
Guess I'll keep being the boat whore and provide gas and beer money for the friends that have them.
They're like pools, the best boat is the one your good buddy owns.
 
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it sucks to work my ass off just to pay off debit and not have anything to show for it but id rather do this for a year...
But you do have something to show for it, you just got it up front - that education.
 
I know several people like that. It blows my mind, 30yr note on a boat is downright insane. Back in 2007, you could buy a brand new Nautique 210 fully loaded for around 70-80k from the factory. Now that boat is 100+ with the G series pushing 150-200k.

Wife and I have wanted a Nautique for quite a while. Looking at 07 and up models, used to be around the 35k-45k mark, now those same used boats are 60-70k.

Guess I'll keep being the boat whore and provide gas and beer money for the friends that have them.

I got lucky. I got a 2008 moomba outback v in 2019 before Covid. Got it for 25k with like 250 hours. I could make money on it now. I want a newer one but this fits my needs and my spending appetite
 
@DSM Turbos Moomba's are great. I got to ride behind an outback on Falls a few years ago. Cant beat it for the price. Yeah you could probably sell it for 35k-40k right now...
 
Just saw a house in my hood sell for a CRAZY price. This shit is getting worse!
 
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Here's a graph of the 2yr rate of change in the M2 money supply. Can y'all point to the part where you think people are cash-strapped and living beyond their means?
 

Yall house market folks put this on someone decent. Been a tourist attraction since it listed. I need a good neighbor.
 
Not sure if I see a place where folks are necessarily cash strapped, but I do see a spot that looks very indulgent and drunk on cheap money.
The data disagrees with you
 
Isn't that the same company that lost it's ass flipping home based on their projected sale prices? .....

I think so…but right now, Zillow is $50k more conservative than my realtors and mortgage broker…as far as current market value is concerned on my home. Zillow is right in line with the appraisal I got 3 months ago. Both of which are/were about $15sq/ft lower than what the realtors and mortgage broker seem to think I could get. That said…if Zillow is confident their market projections, why they wouldn’t be investing in the areas with highest projected returns.
 
I think so…but right now, Zillow is $50k more conservative than my realtors and mortgage broker…as far as current market value is concerned on my home. Zillow is right in line with the appraisal I got 3 months ago. Both of which are/were about $15sq/ft lower than what the realtors and mortgage broker seem to think I could get. That said…if Zillow is confident their market projections, why they wouldn’t be investing in the areas with highest projected returns.
I can't say I have ever put any stock in a zestament. According to them, my house/property is worth $100k more than it cost me to buy and build 3yrs ago, but $150k less than what they valued it at 6 months ago. Best I can tell, they have no fawking clue what it's worth.
 
I can't say I have ever put any stock in a zestament. According to them, my house/property is worth $100k more than it cost me to buy and build 3yrs ago, but $150k less than what they valued it at 6 months ago. Best I can tell, they have no fawking clue what it's worth.
They also havet he advantage of only having to be right on average across a huge aggregate at any moment in time. They can be right some and wrong some, and long at the right happens a little more. An individual doesn't have that luxury.
 
They also havet he advantage of only having to be right on average across a huge aggregate at any moment in time. They can be right some and wrong some, and long at the right happens a little more. An individual doesn't have that luxury.
See also: weatherman
 
Wait. Haven’t you been screaming (making vague comments that you rarely elaborate on) about how the market will not collapse and this ain’t a bubble.
You don't understand what he does around here.
 
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