How to get drivers license for pulling trailer over 10k?

Discussion in 'Tow Rigs and Trailers' started by thecarman, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. thecarman

    thecarman Well-Known Member

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    I have a 14k gooseneck trailer (stamped for 14k), so that means I need something above the normal class C drivers license. I need class A, right?

    I wanted to see if anyone else has experience getting this license. I think Rich said he gave up trying to get it because the DMV sucked. I just want to get everything lined up, and know all the details, including the things that the DMV screws up.

    Also, it is my understanding that since I do not tow commercially, all I need is the license, no log books, health check, etc. Is this right?

    Thanks!!!

    (And yes, my tow rig is plated for enough weight to cover truck and loaded trailer)
     
  2. BRUISER

    BRUISER silent.. but deadly Moderator

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    talk to Kimball I think he did it
     
  3. PoPo

    PoPo New Member

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    I do believe your trailer will put you into the class A range for sure. Looking at NCGS 20-4.01(2a) you would fall under section b "Has a combined GVWR of less than 26,001 pounds and includes as part of the combination a towed unit that has a GVWR of at least 10,001 pounds.
     
  4. kaiser715

    kaiser715 Doing hard time

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    Time to build a toter home and license it as an RV. :)

    Dig a lot on the DMV site _and_ the federal motor carrier safety site (http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/).

    I was recently frustrated by an exemption for the medical requirement (I have CDL w/P for church and Scout bus). Finally found it on the fmcsa site, and best of all, they have plain-english interpretations of many of the regs. (For the record, medical is NOT required for that. If it affects anyone here and you want a link that proves it, PM me.)

    NC follows the fmcsa rules and regulations.

     
  5. Rich

    Rich Asshole at large

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    You should be good to go. Make sure the trailer reg. is current (and with you), there is a VIN tag on the trailer stating the capacity, and your vehicle is fully current, you should have no problems.

    One of the above got me every dang time.
     
  6. BUCKETOBOLTS

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    I know a couple guys that bought a pair of Volvo's with sleepers to tow with. They are registered as private RV's. They pull a triple axle wedge that hold 3-4 rigs. They fella from NC has an endorsement to drive a bus. But the guy from PA just has regular license. Though he had to register the rig in another state because PA didn't recognize it as an RV because it used to be a road tractor. If it had came from the manufacturer as an RV it would have been okay.
     
  7. thecarman

    thecarman Well-Known Member

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    My tow rig is just a plain old 1-ton 4x4 Chevy truck, so cannot be licensed/titled as an RV. If we need to have a discussion about RVs, let's take it to a separate thread. :)
     
  8. 91oneton

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    u will need a dmv physical from a doctor .. then u can go get your permit. u will need to take the class A TEST with the trailer endorsement. then after u get your permit u can call the dmv and make a appointment to get your license, which will be a road test and a pre trip inspection. thats what i had to do to get my cdls
     
  9. 91oneton

    91oneton Well-Known Member

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    also the licsese will probally cost over $100
     
  10. NC_Mog

    NC_Mog Eurotrash Driver

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    Richard its not that big a deal. No you don't need a physical and it doesn't cost big bucks. What you are getting is a Class A non-CDL license.

    First you go and take the exam. You need to study the same stuff the commercial drivers study. They'll even ask you about air brakes. The exam is taken on the computer. Download the info from the NC DMV site and study it.

    Second you will have to schedule a time to get the driving test done. You will need a truck with a trailer. They may or may not ask you how it got there. They didn't with me. They are supposed to take you on an extended driving test to include the highway, so watch your lane changes, etc.

    Study up on what you are getting. Some of the DMV folks will not know what you are talking about. Be patient and persistent. Only one guy in the DMV office where I went knew what I was talking about. The lady that took me on my driving test didn't do the extended, but the regular test with a trailer tagging along. I did the computer test one day, then the driving test another day. Now that I think about it, I didn't schedule it but I had to come in earlier in the day or something like that. PM me if you need and we can chat on the phone.
     
  11. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

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    If you can find the link, I'd appreciate it. My license expires next year, and I'd rather not have to deal with the DOT physical.
     
  12. kaiser715

    kaiser715 Doing hard time

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    Here's the info as I sent it to our Scout leaders at the church:

     
  13. 1BIGAZZBURBN

    1BIGAZZBURBN There's a DUMBASS on your keyboard between Y & I..

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    NC Mog is correct. If your trailer has a GVWR of 10,001 # or more you DO need a non commercial class A which does not require a DMV physical. The test is the same ole BS with trick questions but if you do a quick read through the book you should have no problem. IIRC Ms Battle here in Sanford rode with me for the road test. Also it does not matter if you are pulling commercially or not it is the GVWR on the trailer. A class C is not good enough even if the trailer is empty. I learned the hard way
     
  14. rocktoy4me

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    class "A" classified (i think that was what they called it) would be a good idea. Like everyone has said...dont worry about the CDL part. That is only if you are pulling "for hire"

    There is a book on line that you can download...it was a 25 question test and a drive around the block when i got mine. Mine wasnt $100. Dont remember exact price...mainly because i got reinbursed by the firedept.:driver:

    Seth
     
  15. 91oneton

    91oneton Well-Known Member

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    mine was $100 but i did get the cdls .. had to have them for my job.. probally be alot cheaper if u go non cdl
     
  16. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

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    Yeah, CDL is fawking expensive. Mine was about $100 the last time I renewed, too. You've gotta pay like $5 per endorsement, per year, or something to that effect, plus the license fee per year... it added up quick.

    Thanks for the link, Kaiser. I'll hang on to that.
     
  17. Futbalfantic

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    Are y'all sure he needs an A class? I was thinking he only needed a B class.
     
  18. bigwaylon

    bigwaylon Well-Known Member

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    assuming the non-CDL is split like the CDL...the deciding point is the trailer rating...

    >10,000 = A
    <10,000 = B

    Greg
     
  19. NC_Mog

    NC_Mog Eurotrash Driver

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    Again, yes for 10k+ trailer GVWR.
     
  20. Futbalfantic

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    Ahh good to know... that seams interesting. I would think and excavator would weigh well over 5 tons.
    I say that b/c a friend of mine has a grading company and hauls his excavator on the behind his dump truck with a B class
     
  21. 1BIGAZZBURBN

    1BIGAZZBURBN There's a DUMBASS on your keyboard between Y & I..

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    Class A A combination of vehicles that is exempt from CDL requirements when the towed unit has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more. Your friend with the dump truck only has a class B that is good for the truck and a trailer with a 10,000 pound or less. When the trailer has a 10,001 pound or more GVWR with out air brakes that is when you need a class A non CDL liscense. turn over your liscense and read the top
     
  22. 87GMCJimmy

    87GMCJimmy Well-Known Member

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    I hate to resurrect an old thread but, I was looking at it and got confused and worried. Here's my set up: 07 Chevy Silverado Classic 2500 HD Dmax/Alli 4x4. I have a weighted tag rated at 20,000 lbs (I posted about the tag in the weighted tag thread but now, I posted here since it seems more appropriate a thread for license inquiries). Do I need to get an A class license now, or only when I get the 12,000 lb rated trailer I intend to get (or whatever rating the trailer may turn out to be, at any rate, in excess of 10,000 lbs)? Before that trailer, is there any need for me to get a special license in order to tow below 10K say, 8K, or will my weighted tag by its mere presence necessitate an A class license? What all is needed to get an A license and, does it have any stricter of rules than a normal C license? Sorry for all the questions, I appreciate any info y'all can provide, thank you!
     
  23. cumminsdzl

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    As long as your trailer does not have a GVWR of over 10,000lbs, you do not need a class A. As long as your combined GVWR is not over 26,000 you do not need a CDL.

    To get a class A, go to the drivers license place, take the 50 question written test, then take the driving test, then get your new license. The rules for having the class A are the same as a class C. Only when you get a CDL does the strictness of the rules change.
     
  24. thecarman

    thecarman Well-Known Member

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    How hard is the driving test? I'm trying to decide if I should take my crew-cab and 32-foot goose, or try to borrow a smaller trailer.
     
  25. lomodyj

    lomodyj Well-Known Member

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    Also know that, if you go for your CDL the BAC allowable level is about 1/2 the allowable for non CDL. Even if you get pulled driving your car, your BAC has to be under the CDL limit.
     

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