KOH discussion thread

4472 Dustin Iscenhour - former NC guy. He is on lap 3 now
Just finished. 15th. Busy week for him and his team.
He mentioned he was not running tireballs.
 
Looks like Jay hasn't moved in a while, but was on lap 3.

What did Jessi pitch? Savvy/Currie sets up a pretty awesome rig.
PSC & BFG mainly. But she listed off a ton of stuff.

Her and the Campbell's mentioned LeadNav system on an ipad. Apparently it was really accurate and would tell the turns to you.
 
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I'd like to see more on that build, anyone know names or info? I would love to do a build like that, if I had the money and knew what actually worked off-road. That was a dream project that me and my friend in Colorado would bullshit about over beers. He's a Jeep guy and brilliant engineer, and could probably make it work pretty well. I'm pretty sure what we were talking about was like a SXS that was built well enough to take abuse and not break and had larger tires, but this was before SXS got popular. So kinda like a lighter weight KOH buggy.

Gomez bros racing build, built by UFO fabworks.
 
The IFS/IRS buggy that they kept saying was supposed to be a game changer was the Lasernut IFS/IRS buggy from last year. It was really hyped up coming into last year but broke. I think it crapped a trans or case. He came through 8th this year. But one of the Gomez Bro's have a new UFO Fab buggy that has a crazy rear end setup that has the rear diff built into the "passenger" lower A-arm and RCV's throughout.
 
The IFS/IRS buggy that they kept saying was supposed to be a game changer was the Lasernut IFS/IRS buggy from last year. It was really hyped up coming into last year but broke. I think it crapped a trans or case. He came through 8th this year. But one of the Gomez Bro's have a new UFO Fab buggy that has a crazy rear end setup that has the rear diff built into the "passenger" lower A-arm and RCV's throughout.
Sounds like a cross between SLA & Twin-I beam
 
The live feed was incredible. It felt like a professional production with better commentary than ever before. Miles' chirpy voice stayed in the pits for short term live action while the Australia/English dude did all the color commentary from the main stage. The race was filled with classic racing drama.
Loren Healey shot out to an early lead in a single seater and caught fire in the first lap. Shannon Campbell had two flats by pit one.
Tom Wayes led for a while with Wayland on him close and Eric miller and slawson stayed around the top ten.

At the finish like @trailhugger said Waylon had physical first, Shanon came in half a minute later missing a front left tire and had timed 1st.
The Now Three time champ Shannon Campbell couldn't stop gushing during his interview over how well Waylon did with his finish as they shared the stage by at least 3 minutes before third place.
 
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Looks like Jay is hanging it up. Tracker shows him off course heading back to hammertown across the desert.
 
Had to go out for the evening. Left about the time the feed went down. Congrats to Shannon. When I left, Wayes had a pretty good lead and had been on the gas all day.
 
Ol' girl still has it. Totally the fire chicken. I made some of those dents up front. Don't know why someone tried to wedge 16" shocks on what was built for 14 but whatever. Looks like the back was cut up some to hold a spare. Fun stuff.

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@Dylan W. said he was going to help me in a 2018 effort.
 
So why not just put the diff in the middle... like a normal independent suspension rig

Bc then you can only get the a arms so long and the diff from flange to flange only so narrow.

This way allows longer a arms, more ground clearance, and better geometry through travel.

Only center width necessary would be to mount the arms and get a carrier bearing for the driver side shaft between the first two of 3 cvs.
 
Ol' girl still has it. Totally the fire chicken. I made some of those dents up front. Don't know why someone tried to wedge 16" shocks on what was built for 14 but whatever. Looks like the back was cut up some to hold a spare. Fun stuff.
@Dylan W. said he was going to help me in a 2018 effort.

I'll throw down too. And even blast a self tapper right through the computer 24 hours before it goes in the trailer for old times sake.
 
Ol' girl still has it. Totally the fire chicken. I made some of those dents up front. Don't know why someone tried to wedge 16" shocks on what was built for 14 but whatever. Looks like the back was cut up some to hold a spare. Fun stuff.

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@Dylan W. said he was going to help me in a 2018 effort.

I saw the finish line interview with that car. He said he didn't know who originally built it but he had cut the top and back off and reworked it.
 
Jay Posted on Facebook he had a car fire. I'm assuming he burnt something he couldn't fix

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He posted that from the side of the course at RM 5 on the third lap.

The biggest loss from the fire (other than the trans cooler line that caused it) was the radio wiring. Nobody could get in touch with him on any parts or fluids he needed. He did end up riding another 10 miles after a cobble job, but the transmission wasn't having any of it with the cooler line crimped.
 
So why not just put the diff in the middle... like a normal independent suspension rig

Travel. Clean travel. Ground clearance.

Bc then you can only get the a arms so long and the diff from flange to flange only so narrow.

This way allows longer a arms, more ground clearance, and better geometry through travel.

Only center width necessary would be to mount the arms and get a carrier bearing for the driver side shaft between the first two of 3 cvs.

I'm pretty skeptical of that design, just from looking at the one picture. It's a clever setup, but not without some compromises for everything but crawling.

It seems the only advantage would be to to limit the axle joint angles by spreading the angle over multiple joints, and maybe the secondary benefit of offsetting the driveshaft to the side of the chassis (if that's even an issue). Everything else is a detriment on that setup it would appear. The driveshaft location doesn't even matter that much, because you still have a stationary shaft with a fixed diff housing in an IRS setup.

You're adding a shitload of unsprung mass to the arm on that side only (from the housing, carrier, and some percentage of the driveshaft), so you've now got an asymmetric suspension setup, with different spring and damping requirements for the left and right, and inherently different response. That's mostly a problem at mid to high speeds, and not for crawling obviously.
I'm trying to wrap my head around what is happening with the torque reaction on the right side versus the left as well.

You're also trading center ground clearance for right side ground clearance. You've still got a housing that limits ground clearance, you've just moved where it is and changed where the clearance problem is during suspension travel. The housing is still going to be the lowest point between the wheels during many combinations of wheel travel.

I can't see what there is for trailing arms or whatever in side view, but hopefully there is something to adequately protect the driveshaft. Else it could be very, very exposed. It's almost always going to be higher than a solid axle setup at most points in the suspension travel, but it is very far to the right of the vehicle which means it needs protection from below and from the right side.

If the housing is centered like a standard IRS setup, you can move the arm pivots forward or back to clear the housing with no effects on geometry. Then the biggest problem is axle joint angles, which is a pretty big problem with that much travel.
 
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He posted that from the side of the course at RM 5 on the third lap.

The biggest loss from the fire (other than the trans cooler line that caused it) was the radio wiring. Nobody could get in touch with him on any parts or fluids he needed. He did end up riding another 10 miles after a cobble job, but the transmission wasn't having any of it with the cooler line crimped.
I saw he posted from the race course but when I looked he hadn't said what caused it or what was damaged and never checked it again

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