Man I hate my HOA

jfitz018 said:
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I agree with you partially. I did read the covenants when I bought the house, and I am fine with that, but the new rules they come up with on the fly, is not in writing in the covenants I originally agreed to. I don't know if that is illegal or not, but I have owned the home for about 8 years, and there are many things they say in HOA meeting that we need to do but have never signed an updated covenants and they do enforce those new laws. I am glad you have a cool HOA, makes life easier for sure. Its sad when I want to plant a Japanese Maple, or a Cherry Blossom in my yard, I have to get 5 neighbors signatures and approval from the HOA. I think that is extreme. Its not like I want to paint my house hunter orange, but the approval process is a hassle.
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Your covenants should state how the rule process is developed and approved. Usually, rules have to be proposed at a meeting of the members (homeowners), once quorum is met, only then can a new rule get approved. New rule approval process is usually required to be voted on and approved by a certain percentage of members. Ours is minimum is at least 75% approval at the meeting once quorum is met. You should have something similar. And, at any meeting, you have the right to bring up issues and the process. Typically the board can't just make rules without approval from all the members... If this is happening, bring it up and rally neighbors to have it changed. The Board works for the members (or at least it should...).

As far as legality, if your Board is making rules without proper procedures, the rules are null and void. Updated covenants are supposed to be filed with the Register of Deeds. Request the meeting minutes that caused the new and odd/restrictive rules to be developed. Its your right, look into it. Legally, you are only required to follow the covenants (and ammendments) as they appear at the Register of Deeds. If they are trying to enforce rules that are not filed, its a loosing battle. They won't (or shouldn't if they are smart) take you to court for not abiding by rules that aren't ammended properly as if you bring up the legal Covenants that don't have the rules, they are not going to win any lien, etc.


Is your HOA self managed or 3rd party managed? Many managing companies work off of base plus commission on fines or paperwork. so, they typically encourage fines and letters to be sent out; because they make more $.

Hope this helps.
 
Its 3rd party managed. My sister in law was in town from Maryland. She parked her car in front of my house and she got a parking ticket. I received a letter in the mail from HOA stating that I needed to pay the fine and they described my sister in laws car. I called them up and stated that wasn't my car, and they told me that I was responsible for the ticket. I lied and told them I didn't know who owned the car, and I wasnt paying the fine. They came back with a......we know who owns the car, we ran the licence plate and the last name is the same as your wifes....I was like...you dirty bastards. I cussed his ass out. I told him he could take me to court to pay the fine, and he stated that he would put a lien on my house. So that was when I decided to move to Person County, and fuck Hope Valley Farms. I hate that HOA, but the house we bought a couple years ago, we pay 300.00 a year, and we are our own HOA. We can do pretty much anything we want, plant whatever we want, I cleared an area in the woods where I park my truck, I love it out there.
 
I hate HOA's with a passion. When I bought my house, I found this neighborhood that didn't have an HOA; and I looked at every house for sale here, price range or not.

However, my next move is to get out of the city limits. I had a nosy neighbor starting trouble with city code enforcement and all that hassle. Interesting that all of that quit as soon as they got foreclosed on and forced out.
 
I just read through my covenants, bylaws, all my other papers. Nothing says I need to hide my trash can. Nothing even remotely close to it in them, nothing to be interpreted as it.

The trash can stays and they can kiss my ass. :lol:
 
Blaze said:
I just read through my covenants, bylaws, all my other papers. Nothing says I need to hide my trash can. Nothing even remotely close to it in them, nothing to be interpreted as it.

The trash can stays and they can kiss my ass. :lol:
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Be sure you have the most recent covenants as filed with the Register of Deeds. Get it, then fight back with it. If its not in the covenants as filed with the the Register of Deeds, there is nothing the HOA can do. If they continue to send you letters and hassle you, let them know its harrassment. They will stop.
 
I went directly to them and got a copy of all the papers. Bylaws, covenants, articles of incorporation, arch requirements, etc. Everything.

I am prepared for battle. :lol:

My neighbors were bitching because of the trash can issue. One moved theirs in to their garage and they said it smells like shit in there now, and the other put it behind the fence and they are complaining about how inconvenient it is, which for them it really is the way their house and yard are set up.

I'm going to inform them of my findings tonight.
 
there was a house across the street that was for sale a year ago. Kinda run down but was on the market cheap. I had many family ask me about it, asked about the hood, all that stuff but one family said they NEVER lived in a place without an HOA and was worried. I told them "unless you have trash n your yard that keeps blowing into ours we won't bother you. and if you do not like what you see, build a fence." problems solved.. No HOA is the best thing in the world
 
Not trying to take the HOA side on this, but trash cans should be out of view even if you live out in the country. When I lived in Mooresville, I supported the "trash can hiding" rule. Everyone had their cans beside the garage door. It was very dirty and tacky looking. I put up an eight foot piece of fencing and placed it behind it. The fence even hid my a/c box.
 
TheWarBeast said:
IF you obsess over the appearance and placement of trashy cans you may need to consult professional medical help. There are many more important things in life to worry about.
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Yea, no shit. If you don't like the look of a trash can, don't look at it.
 
Just like voting, if you don't go to the meetings you can't complain about the outcome. Vote the nazis out of office
 
my trash goes outside in the can beside the house, right beside my tires and skid plate for the buggy :lol:

In the interest of not embarrassing my wife (not so much the HOA), I have decided to plant a few gardenias to hide the trash cans and tires... :)

But, at no point will I put the trash inside the garage, EVER!
 
Blaze said:
I went directly to them and got a copy of all the papers. Bylaws, covenants, articles of incorporation, arch requirements, etc. Everything.

I am prepared for battle. :lol:

My neighbors were bitching because of the trash can issue. One moved theirs in to their garage and they said it smells like shit in there now, and the other put it behind the fence and they are complaining about how inconvenient it is, which for them it really is the way their house and yard are set up.

I'm going to inform them of my findings tonight.
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I'd be interested to see what the outcome from you reading up on your covenants and amendments. From outside, sounds like a HOA that is pushing an agenda that hasn't been approved...
 
Try selling your home when the entire neighborhood has carparts and trash in the front yards. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to pee on the HOA presidents front porch. But, if you get one that's run well, they aren't that bad. Seems like the jerks with nothing to do other than complain are the ones with all the free time to be on the board.
 
when we moved in, we put a fence up for the dogs, and also built a little nook to hide the trash cans from street view...per the HOA rules. No big deal, I had the foresight to know my chosen hobby might have me collecting valuable items that others might call junk.
 
Our trash is picked up on Wed morning, I haul the can down to the curb for emptying.
On any given week it might not get taken back around the back of the house until Fri morning when I take the recycling bins out...
then if the neighbors are lucky, I get around to picking up the recycle bin by Sat, more likely Sun or so...
 
jotage said:
OK I hate my HOA also, but I want to take action. I'm petitioning the NC house and Senate to change the law to restrict the power of the boards of directors. If they listen to us and change the law we can then live in peace. Go to the site, sign the petition and tell everyone you know to do the same. Thanks. Here's the URL http://www.change.org/petitions/the...rict-powers-of-bod-of-homeowners-associations
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If you are going to sign up just to put a link to your petition at least tell us about yourself?

do you own a 4x4?
why do you want to modify HOA's did you have a bad experience?
 
I have an issue where it isn't convenient to put my cans out back - even though I don't live in an HOA or City Limits. But for curtesy sake I'm looking into options. I was first going to do a small privacy fence until I saw what my local tire store has. They wrapped their cans with advertisement banners and actually pulled them to the VERY front. I'm thinking it would be a good place for my large sticker collection and call it good?

Good luck! Houses now days are becoming ever so hard to find without a HOA. Every single new development has one. Only privately owned houses sold from family land don't have one and they have every option to load it up with the same rules. The municipalities gladly accept rules such as these thrown into the deeds. See it regularly.

Our freedoms are being lost daily. It's becoming life in the good ole USA. :rockon:
 
I have never heard or read the words... I LOVE MY HOA.

that sheer fact alone is why I will never live in an area that has an HOA. you moved there, you deal with it. :flipoff2:
 
BRUISER said:
If you are going to sign up just to put a link to your petition at least tell us about yourself?

do you own a 4x4?
why do you want to modify HOA's did you have a bad experience?
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Yes. It's a Wrangler X. I want to modify HOAs so that future homeowners don't have to experience the bs we read about in the multiple complaints. But why just complain? I'm trying to do so something, how about you? If you disagree, don't do anything. Thanks.
 
jotage said:
Yes. It's a Wrangler X. I want to modify HOAs so that future homeowners don't have to experience the bs we read about in the multiple complaints. But why just complain? I'm trying to do so something, how about you? If you disagree, don't do anything. Thanks.
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I hate HOA's in general that is why I bought a house without one :)

my 1st response to you was directed that you signed up and immediately posted a link to your petition.. looks sort of like spam.. but by you replying to my post it helps validate you are real and legit..
 
For any of you or your friends looking for an outlet to vent or to potentially do something about it, I'm producing a series called HOA Wars. Contact me for more information. I'm looking for great stories currently going on that we can all relate to!
 
PeterH1972 said:
For any of you or your friends looking for an outlet to vent or to potentially do something about it, I'm producing a series called HOA Wars. Contact me for more information. I'm looking for great stories currently going on that we can all relate to!
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Oh snap. This should be good.
 
:popcorn:
 
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