MOTD (Meme of the Day)

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Like the manchurian candidate?
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UTfball68 said:
I r dispoint, figured coming from you, we’d get a small dissertation on Pavlov to really drive the point home.
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thats different
 
UTfball68 said:
Innate response to an auditory trigger, isn’t Pavlovian?
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Yea beachside the response is actually because of the dopamine cycle of the reward. There isn’t a pleasure center reward with the clean up
 
UTfball68 said:
Innate response to an auditory trigger, isn’t Pavlovian?
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No.
First of all "innate" is completely the wrong term here. Its conditioned, not innate... which is the point.
Second of all I don't feel like writing this dissertation when I should be fixing the AC in the pickup.
Third I generally fucking hated conditioning / reinforcement learning in classes bc it oversimplifies reality.
But here's the brief version.

Pavlovian conditioning is based on the notion of an unrelated thing becoming a trigger for some other action. The. bell before feeding, salivation later when the bell happens. Bell was never intended as the trigger for eating, has nothing to do with eating, its just coincidentally associated.
In this case the God-fosaken Cleanup song was literally made for this very purpose, the signal its time to clean up. So yeah, you hear it and it reminds you its time to clean up. There's nothing coincidental about that.
Now if they gave a cookie every time they finished cleaning, and you smelled those cookies and suddenly hadt he urge to clean, that would be more akin to the idea.

And now that you've ruined this wisecrack I have to admit the Manchurian Candidate is not the same either. :flipoff2:

EDIT: plus yes @Ron is right. Except that sometimes little kids enjoy praise from teacher and that is enough to be the conditioning reward.
 
RatLabGuy said:
No.
First of all "innate" is completely the wrong term here. Its conditioned, not innate... which is the point.
Second of all I don't feel like writing this dissertation when I should be fixing the AC in the pickup.
Third I generally fucking hated conditioning / reinforcement learning in classes bc it oversimplifies reality.
But here's the brief version.

Pavlovian conditioning is based on the notion of an unrelated thing becoming a trigger for some other action. The. bell before feeding, salivation later when the bell happens. Bell was never intended as the trigger for eating, has nothing to do with eating, its just coincidentally associated.
In this case the God-fosaken Cleanup song was literally made for this very purpose, the signal its time to clean up. So yeah, you hear it and it reminds you its time to clean up. There's nothing coincidental about that.
Now if they gave a cookie every time they finished cleaning, and you smelled those cookies and suddenly hadt he urge to clean, that would be more akin to the idea.

And now that you've ruined this wisecrack I have to admit the Manchurian Candidate is not the same either. :flipoff2:

EDIT: plus yes @Ron is right. Except that sometimes little kids enjoy praise from teacher and that is enough to be the conditioning reward.
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See…that’s why you don’t need to worry about your AC, and type out dissertations. It’s Maryland after all and only breaks 80* like 3 times a year. And now you’ve educated the dumb masses or dumbasses or whatever.
 
UTfball68 said:
See…that’s why you don’t need to worry about your AC, and type out dissertations. It’s Maryland after all and only breaks 80* like 3 times a year. And now you’ve educated the dumb masses or dumbasses or whatever.
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I fucking wish,. It's 86 here right now.
 
YJJPWrangler said:
This is very true....just don't make it an every day habit as it will and does get flagged.
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Not illegal to drive with your tailgate down, though. And it isn't our fault that their cameras suck and can't take good camera angles. :lol:
 
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