need electrical help please, thank you

Paul said:
No shit. I would rather jack off a bobcat with a hand full of briers than fuck with @trailhugger.
Trust me.
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Ive never met @trailhugger, but I think I would rather clean the mess after you were done with said bobcat than fuck with her
 
Well then.....this ended pretty ugly lol, carry on
 
What we're lacking here is clearly a big fat doobie.

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Y'all wanna hit this shit?
 
SO I go to bed a little early on a Saturday night and yet AGAIN I miss some funny chit!! :D

@marty79 If, and I mean IF you have the 100% approval from your landlord, then and only then, proceed, but for the safety of your family have an electrician look over your work. The land lord might even pay for the "inspection" from a licensed electrician so that he doesn't have to rip it out after you move out.
 
Your landlord should know that he'll end up having to rip out all you've done.
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obullfish said:
Maybe not. He could get lucky and the house could burn down.
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Not sure that'd be lucky, once the fire inspector finds the illegal wiring the insurance company won't pay.
 
Wait, you gotta pull a permit in NC just to add a 220v line in the garage for a welder? Or is that to add a new sub panel where there previously wasn't one.
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
Yes, as long as you own the home and get the permit.
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Also - be glad you guys in NC even have this option.
In most of MD, homeowners can't do their own.
And in the few counties where it's an option, they have to pass a written bitch of a test of the entire NEC code first.

(the result is, of course, a lot of illegal wiring occurring)
 
CarolinaHD said:
Wait, you gotta pull a permit in NC just to add a 220v line in the garage for a welder? Or is that to add a new sub panel where there previously wasn't one.
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Technically, yes. Any addition to the box...
 
Am I reading it wrong or are we talking about running 220v on a 120v welding machine?
 
BigClay said:
SO I go to bed a little early on a Saturday night and yet AGAIN I miss some funny chit!! :D

@marty79 If, and I mean IF you have the 100% approval from your landlord, then and only then, proceed, but for the safety of your family have an electrician look over your work. The land lord might even pay for the "inspection" from a licensed electrician so that he doesn't have to rip it out after you move out.
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Well thank you sir for 1: being mature in your response, 2: staying on topic. Yes of course I have permission, I'm not that guy as others may think. I always get permission before I even sign a lease..I won't rent a home if I can't have freedom to work on my stuff and hook up compressor/welders/plasma cutter. And I know my wiring pretty well, been doing it in every house for past 7 yrs..sure I don't know a lot but enough basic knowledge to do a simple outlet or such. This was little new stuff I looked up how to better wire up a 110 welder for maximum performance and I got it all figured out. Thanks again for a mature grown up response.
 
RHSCTJ said:
Am I reading it wrong or are we talking about running 220v on a 120v welding machine?
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No 220 (10/2) wire on 20amp breaker, 20amp outlet for full 140 amp welder ability, that's all, simple.
 
marty79 said:
Yes of course I have permission, I'm not that guy as others may think. I always get permission before I even sign a lease..I won't rent a home if I can't have freedom to work on my stuff and hook up compressor/welders/plasma cutter.
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John,
I am going good to try and say this as calmly and plainly as possible. I am not slamming you I am trying to educate you. The homeowner can not give you this permission. In the state of NC this work can only be performed by a licensed electrical contractor OR by the owner himself. The owner can't get a friend to do it for him that isn't a licensed contractor. That is illegal. And the person who does the wiring is performing contracting without a license.

You as someone who has openly admitted to having a sketchy past you are trying to grow out of, should know it isn't smart to brag in a pubic forum about illegal activity.

Now the second issue is what @RatLabGuy mentioned. If the house was to burn down, through no fault of your work. Let's say the stove is left on and it burns the place down. The fire Marshall will investigate, and when he finds wiring that isn't to code, or was un permited the insurance company can and has denied any claim. Meaning none of your family's stuff gets paid for. The homeowner gets no money to rebuild. You get to move on and find a new place to stay, the homeowner is screwed.

Part of being an adult is evaluating potential consequences.

marty79 said:
And I know my wiring pretty well, been doing it in every house for past 7 yrs..sure I don't know a lot but enough basic knowledge to do a simple outlet or such. This was little new stuff I looked up how to better wire up a 110 welder for maximum performance and I got it all figured out. Thanks again for a mature grown up response.
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This thread proves you don't know enough to do a simple outlet.
I'm sorry, you dont. Just because you screw wires down and a light bulb comes on doesn't mean it's right, or safe. The code is written to cover what if scenarios.
 
On the other hand....

My folks bought their house in 1969. Mom is still there. Over the years, there have been 3 electrical fires. 2 were caused by work done by a large (at the time) local electrical contractor (in one case we found out at the time of the fire, just a few years ago, that they had used an extension cord inside a ceiling run, evidently because it was what they had). The other fire was actually caused by the power company (Duke/Progress) -- they had re-run the drop to the meter from the pole. 24 hours later, due to poor workmanship, it arced and see a fire in the soffit.

That said, I'd still trust *most* electricians work over Harry Homeowner. (or worse, renter). I'll do my own, on my *owned* property, though.
 
RatLabGuy said:
Not sure that'd be lucky, once the fire inspector finds the illegal wiring the insurance company won't pay.
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CarolinaHD said:
Wait, you gotta pull a permit in NC just to add a 220v line in the garage for a welder? Or is that to add a new sub panel where there previously wasn't one.
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If I'm not mistaken, any wiring project at all has to be permitted. Including swapping out ugly fixtures or replacing that wobbly ceiling fan.
 
Kamel said:
Nothing to add other than:

@Paul *you're* :D

And @trailhugger If the hammer gets used; Please preserve this thread in the garage for the sheer amount of awesome involved, mostly your own doing.
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YOU'RE NEXT ASSWIPE!
Sorry i'm not a gooder speller like you n stuft lik dat.
In Da Hood day call me a kneegro. You bout a damn honky ass brotha hater. Piss off.
 
It's "yer" :flipoff2:

And I find it hard to believe that a forum of such independently minded people is so quick to cry foul about wiring a new receptacle in your own house. Don't worry, the government will protect you! :stupid::usa:
 
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