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dude got assaulted and thats a lesson learned from a harmless gesture??? The day its allowable to choke someone because of a hand gesture from someone in a car on the road is the day we are all screwed!


I mean really, I flip people off on the road every day and I also get flipped off with zero expectation that its OK if I or someone else chokes the other. WTF yall?


Lesson learned? Likely, but that doesn't mean the choker was right and gets away with what he did. What if the kid had some physical condition that caused him to be seriously injured? Would your opinion change then? Regardless of the seriousness (or lack there of), of the result of the assault (mental/physical injury, etc.), flipping anyone off for whatever reason is not the green light to assault someone.

Next time one of yall flip me off, I guess its ok for me to choke you out...
 
rockcity said:
dude got assaulted and thats a lesson learned from a harmless gesture??? The day its allowable to choke someone because of a hand gesture from someone in a car on the road is the day we are all screwed!


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I agree.... although, you do need to draw the line in the sand somewhere....

for example - if he had called him a "poopy-pants", then THAT would have called for an extreme beat-down enforced by the wedgie option.
 
My guess is kid bro did more than flip the guy off. brake check, blocking, several gestures, yelling at the dude, etc. I guarantee he didn't simply give the guy the bird.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
Ok so, guy decides to be as ass by riding my brothers tail for like 2 miles, then my brother gives him a little brake check to get him to back off and then the guy speeds in the other lane and gets beside him long enough to see that my bro is flipping him the rod and then proceeds to get back behind him and follow him all the way to work and then chokes him....
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Just for teh record there was a little more than just the one-finger salute.

Not that I haven't, and would again in the future given somebody a brake-check for following me too close - I hate that shit
 
rockcity said:
Next time one of yall flip me off, I guess its ok for me to choke one out...
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really? Go for it!

(I can't believe nobody has inserted this euphemism yet)

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RatLabGuy said:
really? Go for it!

(I can't believe nobody has inserted this euphemism yet)

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I was but I didn't want this sent to the garage...
 
rockcity said:
dude got assaulted and thats a lesson learned from a harmless gesture??? The day its allowable to choke someone because of a hand gesture from someone in a car on the road is the day we are all screwed!


I mean really, I flip people off on the road every day and I also get flipped off with zero expectation that its OK if I or someone else chokes the other. WTF yall?


Lesson learned? Likely, but that doesn't mean the choker was right and gets away with what he did. What if the kid had some physical condition that caused him to be seriously injured? Would your opinion change then? Regardless of the seriousness (or lack there of), of the result of the assault (mental/physical injury, etc.), flipping anyone off for whatever reason is not the green light to assault someone.

Next time one of yall flip me off, I guess its ok for me to choke you out...
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If you cant do the time don't do the crime. He was lucky the guy only choked him out, besides we have only heard one side of the story. I ber there is more to it than we have been told.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
My brother will call the company tomorrow because he did confirm that it was indeed that van was the one.He will tell them of the situation in hopes that they find out who did it and that something will be done about it.
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Well how'd it go?
 
rockcity said:
dude got assaulted and thats a lesson learned from a harmless gesture??? The day its allowable to choke someone because of a hand gesture from someone in a car on the road is the day we are all screwed!
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No...in today's society it is not allowable, but if you're going to instigate a negative situation, be prepared for the consequences. Whether the guys reaction is equal or not is moot, he'll have his own set of consequences to deal with. You can only worry about you and what kind of situations you get yourself in to and how you handle those situations. If you instigate a problem...you deserve everything coming to you and the guy that retaliates will have to live with the consequences. There are few things I hate worse in this world than sniveling bitches that piss and moan after they fail or get their asses handed to them, then instead of dusting themselves off, they want to escalate the situation because their pride hurts and they feel the need to save face.

On edit...had the brother not gotten choked out and the role was reversed, chances are the majority of these posts would be a pat on the back and the OP would be beaming with pride. But some egos were bruised, so lets play the victim and revenge was the innate reaction. Seems like a double standard to me.
 
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http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/03/middlefinger.pdf

Give the finger, go to jail.

While extending your middle finger is not specifically illegal, and in the past has been protected as free speech a lot of courts are now seeing it as one or more of the following: communicating a threat, disorderly conduct, disturbing the peace, or inciting civil unrest.

i would say the driver of the van responded to a threat, which led to both engaged in disorderly conduct, now the action has riled a community (nc4x4), leading to a potential civil unrest charge.

On top of that, there are road rage charges with braking (failure to avoid collision etc..)

Sure, it's throwing spaghetti against the wall and some of it is a stretch....but if you throw enough charges at the situation one or two are likely to stick. But if you got a eager cop and a pissed off judge things could go seriously bad for you.

The last thing you want to do is fuck up your record over a bad driver.
 
Many many years ago when I was about thirty I had a VW beetle, it was all hot rodded out, big motor, running Hoosier 12' tires and Michilin 135's up front, lowered and all, a way bichin VW. Anyhow, I cut a guy off, something I couldn't help, as I remember. I think it was an on ramp or a turn or something, I don't rightly recall now, but he was pissed. He kept waving me over once he caught up with me so I pulled over ahead of him, and him a few car lengths behind me. He jumped out and walked up to my door, and I said I hadn't saw him or was sorry or some such, but was saying 'I'm sorry Dude' I'm sorry, I'm sorry, several times and it was an accident. Thing was this guy was about 5'9" or so and came walking up thinking me a small guy. My VW had lowered seats, so I sat quite low in it, but I was 6'2" and buffed, being a Block Mason, I was a big dude, big guns (Biceps) powerful muscled chest, but you couldn't see any of this driving past and casually looking from another car. Well anyway he had intended to run up and drag me out and pound on me I believe, but when he did come up and actually could look down into the seat and see me a Pro Wrestler type, he quickly changed his tune, yet I still profusely apologized, I had after all been in the wrong. Looking at me with the realization I could fold him in half with one hand, he changed his tune, finally saying 'don't do it again' and walked back to his truck and sped off. It was kind of funny really, but the good guy I was, I just apologized and let him vent till he was satisfied.......... or scared of what he had come up upon mistakenly. Never saw him again. But He had every reason to be pissed, I did do the wrong, and was honestly sorry...... lol...
 
Gohot sounds an awful lot like a european, dutch maybe... Just the way he talks lol.
 
I think a good lesson was learned. The older I have gotten, the less I let things get under my skin. With that said, I think if you flip someone the bird, brake check, etc, you have to be prepared for the consequences. That guy jumping out of the van also had to be prepared the other guy had a gun, or was a better fighter than him. Both exhibited poor judgement and both could have let cooler heads prevail. I would just let it go and be thankful that all that happened was someone getting choked out and having their pride hurt.

I hear a lot of men my dads age talk about how everyone got in fist fights, and no one ever worried about the other guy pulling a knife or a gun. They also knew that after the fight was over, it was over, none of this crying and "I'll get you" mentality. More than likely after the two guys healed up they went and had a beer to laugh about it. Those seem like better days.
 
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