Owed money from gearjammer80

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The deal was finished when we left each others sight, ur mistake not mine. You should have made any adjustments before you left. Like I said You made the price 2 times, not just once. Not my mistake.
 
Dude, seriously? Why did you as me via the little 'chat' thing on nc4x4 if my paypal address had 1 'e' or 2? Why did you tell me on the phone you weren't 'that kind of guy' and you would send the $100 via paypal? If this were on craigslist I would expect this, you KNEW when you bought it that I wanted $550, if you want to be that way fine, keep the $100. This 'defamation of character' crap isn't going to work though, anyone here can see you had every opportunity to make this right, not gonna shed any tears over $100, I'm just glad to finally get an answer out of you, no matter how horrible of an excuse it was...
 
gearjammer80 said:
The deal was finished when we left each others sight, ur mistake not mine. You should have made any adjustments before you left. Like I said You made the price 2 times, not just once. Not my mistake.
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Very bad dude very bad... If you said you pay,You need to man up and pay up.
This is going haunt you on here for awhile unless you make it right. No one will deal with you again, So just make it right save face.
 
Papa_Jon said:
Very bad dude very bad... If you said you pay,You need to man up and pay up.
This is going haunt you on here for awhile unless you make it right. No one will deal with you again, So just make it right save face.
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My thoughts exactly, if he hadn't agreed to pay it on the phone things might be different (mainly, I'd feel it was 100% my fault), but since he agreed to pay it, this is 100% on him...
 
That's shitty you say your going to pay then you need to keep your word and pay. In the long run it will cost you more when you more. I've got some great deals on this site and would not want to be in your shoes just pay the 100 and go on with life. Saying you will pay and not paying is the same as stealing and would and should be able to expect more from a low enforcement officer.
 
I had my whole family with me when I talked to him on the phone. They never heard me say anything about paying anyone. People can side my way or his dosen't really matter to me. I did not make a mistake and get down the road and oh shit, I need more money. Not my fault.
 
I've bought and sold and borrowed stuff from tacoma747 always been a nice stand up guy and I don't think he would make anything up and cause trouble over 100. I don't know you but his story seems legit yours seems like you know your in the wrong and know you need to pay and your trying to justify what your doing to yourself that's what I see from your post. Should have stuck with the original title seems it was dead on.
 
I'm telling my side of the actions taken. I'm sorry you are taking his side because you know him personally. I can only tell my part not his.
 
Why on earth did you ask if the spelling was 1 'e' or 2 on my paypal address then? Or are you going to say now that you never asked that (since I have no proof since it was 'chat' and not PM?).

You can say all you want that you didn't say you would pay the $100, you specifically told me on the phone when I asked if you still wanted it that you 'were not that kind of guy' ('to back out of a deal over a mistake' was my interpretation). If you would have said you didn't want to pay the $100 don't you think I would have asked to meet up on your way back through town to trade back? This whole deal makes me think you KNEW you were shorting me $100.

Keep MY $100, I am not going to go broke over $100, if you feel you can't be a stand-up guy and stand by your word that you would send me the money, then keep it, all I have got to say is, if there is such a thing as 'karma', it'll be coming your way...

I'm done with your sorry ass, the original title definetly should not have been changed, crooked cop definetly fits the bill now that you have actually responded with your pile of crap...
 
gearjammer80 said:
I'm telling my side of the actions taken. I'm sorry you are taking his side because you know him personally. I can only tell my part not his.
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There is no side to take. You're wrong, hes right. Its as simple as that. Pay the 100 and be done with it, or suffer the repercussions that come from it. This forum is relatively tight knit, and you will most likely never be able to do business on here again.
 
Enough with the name calling. I am not crooked. I have been on here for almost 4 years and never had a bad deal. Sorry you made a mistake. Like I said before it is not my fault!
 
gearjammer80 said:
Enough with the name calling. I am not crooked. I have been on here for almost 4 years and never had a bad deal. Sorry you made a mistake. Like I said before it is not my fault!
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Oh thats bullshit and you know it. You BOTH made a mistake and you should man up for it. I never get involved in this type of stuff, but this one is all on you.
 
Both made a mistake? Maybe... Sounds like Tacoma747 made the same (math) mistake twice and he should've accepted his mistake in the first place instead of calling gearjammer80 up and telling him he needed another $100 on the deal. Implying that gearjammer80 "knew" it was worth another $100 more and intentionally didn't bring the math error up is disingenuous at best.

I'm still not clear on who agreed to what, when, or what was determined in that phone call or in any subsequent emails, PMs or chats... and at this point it is all he said, he said. If it were me and a seller showed up at the meeting and said he wanted $100 more, I'd have probably walked. If he'd called after the fact and said he wanted the $100, I'd have told him to take a leap.
 
Google "gearjammer80" and just look at all those forums that pop up.
 
trailhugger said:
Both made a mistake? Maybe... Sounds like Tacoma747 made the same (math) mistake twice and he should've accepted his mistake in the first place instead of calling gearjammer80 up and telling him he needed another $100 on the deal. Implying that gearjammer80 "knew" it was worth another $100 more and intentionally didn't bring the math error up is disingenuous at best.

I'm still not clear on who agreed to what, when, or what was determined in that phone call or in any subsequent emails, PMs or chats... and at this point it is all he said, he said. If it were me and a seller showed up at the meeting and said he wanted $100 more, I'd have probably walked. If he'd called after the fact and said he wanted the $100, I'd have told him to take a leap.
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I agree with this. If I were the seller I wouldn't ask the buyer after the fact to pony up more cash due to my mistake. But if that's what happened, and the buyer agreed (which seems to be the case), then the buyer needs to pay up.

Either way, I'm scratching gearjammer80 off my list of people to do business with. Why bother with trying to sort it out, dude comes off as enough of a douche bag for me not to bother with him.
 
We had agreed on $550, just our math was wrong, so regardless, he knew it was a $550 deal, I was just the one that figured it out first.

Like I said, he can keep the $100, it's not worth fighting about, at least now I know he had no intentions of paying even after he said he would. If I would have said gun (220) + $230 cash and nothing else, sure I guess it would be my fault, but I had already told him $550, so obviously $550-$220 is $330 not $230, he was as much at fault as I was for not adding correctly. Plus, the bottom line is, he agreed AFTER the trade to send money via paypal.

He has yet to say why he asked if the spelling was correct on my paypal address if the thought hadn't crossed his mind to pay the $100... (Just waiting on him to say he didn't say that as well, then I'll really know his crooked)
 
And to be clear, yes, I really only made the math mistake once, I had told him the night before $230, just never crossed my mind the next day until after we traded and I actually 'thought' about what I had just done. And like I said before, sure, it was my fault, only after he AGREED it was $100 short does the blame fall on him for not paying. If he'd have told me 'tough luck' on the phone, there wouldn't have been much I could say other than I screwed myself out of $100...
 
Let's not forget. Michael started this thread by trying to impugn gearjammer's professional reputation. Now he admits he was the one that screwed up in the first place.

Now he doesn't even want the $100. This is my surprised face. So apparently all he really wanted was to drag somebody else's name through the mud.

As for all the guys talking about how "this is a small community and you should pay up just to be fair," that's true to a point. But three or four stories just like this involving tacoma747 come immediately to mind, and nobody has stopped doing business with him yet.
 
shawn said:
Let's not forget. Michael started this thread by trying to impugn gearjammer's professional reputation. Now he admits he was the one that screwed up in the first place.

Now he doesn't even want the $100. This is my surprised face. So apparently all he really wanted was to drag somebody else's name through the mud.

As for all the guys talking about how "this is a small community and you should pay up just to be fair," that's true to a point. But three or four stories just like this involving tacoma747 come immediately to mind, and nobody has stopped doing business with him yet.
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