So who here got the dreaded Underage ticket in college?

SkyHiK5 said:
Infantry,
We are going to just agree to disagree on your authoritarian versus my Independent belief ideologies.
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Ok

if the board so chooses
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Those are you key words;)
So, for you to say it wont or cant impact his future is simply wrong. The fact is, like it or not, you have chosen to stay in the military and been successful at it because on some level you enjoy the structure and direction that comes from others telling you what/how/when to do.
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That is a big misconception of the military. You are given a task and you complete it, same as a civilian job. You are told that you need to be to work at a certain time, so you are there. It is, in a sense, nothing more than a job with a few more restrictions in place. And at my point in time, no one tells me what/how/when to do;)

Just this week, one of our Sgt's got selected for a commissioning program, yet, in his past, he's got two NJP's of which he was found guilty of UA drinking. Didn't seem to hold him back none, guess he should have given up since it would ruin his future.

It's all about what you do after the charges that will nullify them.
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
And up here you have to be 20 for it to be class 3 rather than 2, so i missed that by about 4 months.
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Let me say this again...there is no "up here". If you are 19 and you were charged with purchase, possession or consumption of beer or wine, then it is a Class 3 misdemeanor. If it was liquor, then it is a Class 2. That is the law in every single square inch of this state, it is not different for Boone or anywhere else. G.S. 18B-302, specifically G.S. 18B-302(i).
 
I have a question for all those who are preaching "do the crime, do the time":

Have you ever had a traffic citation during your driving career? If so, did you pay the ticket and deal with the increased auto insurance premiums for the following three yrs, or did you hire a lawyer to 'take care of it' so your insurance wouldn't go up?
 
drkelly said:
I have a question for all those who are preaching "do the crime, do the time":
Have you ever had a traffic citation during your driving career? If so, did you pay the ticket and deal with the increased auto insurance premiums for the following three yrs, or did you hire a lawyer to 'take care of it' so your insurance wouldn't go up?
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I paid the fine, increased Insurance, and did the time. Spank you very much
 
for what it's worth, i paid my tickets and let my insurance go up.

that said, if i were in his shoes, i would lawyer up and try to get the charge reduced or something. as corrupt as the system seems, i'm not gonna screw myself over while everyone else takes advantage of it.

the only thing i take issue with is his general attitude about the whole thing. "i'm not wrong because i don't think i should be wrong, and i deserve to get out of the trouble i'm in so i can hurry up and go and do the things i got in trouble for again, and screw anyone who disagrees."
 
drkelly said:
I have a question for all those who are preaching "do the crime, do the time":
Have you ever had a traffic citation during your driving career? If so, did you pay the ticket and deal with the increased auto insurance premiums for the following three yrs, or did you hire a lawyer to 'take care of it' so your insurance wouldn't go up?
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I paid my various tickets and dealt with the costs.
I was busted doing something I shouldn't have done, that was the chance I took when I decided to risk going over the speed limit. I'm not going to try and weasel my way out of it with some lame ass excuse like my speedometer wasn't working correctly...
 
drkelly said:
I have a question for all those who are preaching "do the crime, do the time"
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thats the problem, thats not the only choices.

1)DONT do the crime, you wont get caught.

My record is clean because I dont break laws, except for a speeding ticket which i deserved FOR SPEEDING. I dont drink underage, and i wont get a citation for it.

2)do the crime, don't get caught.

Maybe this isnt the most morale answer, but still, if you were dumb enough to get caught, you deserve the time.

3)Do the crime and dont tell us about it

because no one here on this board cares that you drink, so why advertise that you broke the law and will continue breaking the law? that makes you stupid, because you make all the people who like the law mad, and you make all the people who dont like the law mad because the more you break a law, the stricter it will get.



Civil Disobedience will not work. This isn't a morale issue, its just a rule that is there to govern people who cant handle drinking underage. people talk about breaking the law to try to abolish it, then whine about getting caught? thats stupid. Rosa Parks did the time. THAT was civil disobedience. She Didnt try to say she didn't do anything wrong. If you want to "make a change" then you cannot get a lawyer when you get caught, or else you are not a credible "victim of the law." also, Civil Disobedience IS STILL DISOBEDIENCE


If you hate the drinking age so much, go protest it. bottom line, a law is a law. You broke it and im glad you got caught. I hope you get caught next time too. quit ruining it for people that drink legally, or even for the smart people that dont get caught
 
Will@Rockbottom4x4.com said:
Looks like you're breaking the law right now from that essay...
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We'll discuss tomorrow.

RufusTheRam said:
sorry dude, oral sex is illegal in nc. i'm sure you'd "take it like a man" though.:flipoff2:
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I bet you could give it like a man too :flipoff2:

Macdaddy4738 said:
seriously, all you guys (and apparently girls) who keep stressing to me the point of "what i did was wrong" fuck you.
You cant say to me that youve never drank underage, and if you do, im going to say your a huge liar. I was one of MANY, and one of the unlucky ones who got caught, not because I was hurting anyone, but because I had a guy who felt he needed to do something to apparently get back at me.
I havent learned what i did was wrong, because I think having to be 21 to drink is a crock of shit. I can go to Iraq (or wherever the hell they decide to send me) and get my legs blown off, im trusted enough to vote for the next president of the united states, but im not trusted enough to drink a few beers now and then?
So all of you who keep trying to lay down the law, and complain that I should have known what I was doing was wrong according to law, get this through your thick head, IM FULLY FUCKING AWARE. What Im also aware of, is that I have a chance at a good job farther down the line. Just because YOU fucked up because YOU did something stupid, is no reason to be condescending and a general asshole.
So I ask, from this point on, if you have nothing worth while to post, just shut up and go back to being a regular stick in the mud.
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I'm not complaining that you should have known what you were doing was against the law. I'm complaining that you came on here bitching about getting caught, and the stupid cops doing there job. You got caught, deal. What would the reaction be if I came on the board and complained about getting busted for selling black tar herion to kiddies? Wouldn't it be the same thing you were doing if I thought the law against selling herion was stupid? ( I don't, its just for arguements sake)



Also, i found it kinda stupid for you to come on here and brag about spitting in some guys face, what was the point? We you just tryin to get your E-wang stroked?
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This thread warms my heart.
 
& who learned what from this thread?:confused:
 
One other point here, the officer wrote down a .03 blown on my ticket, which isnt true (correct value was a .05)

I dont plan on taking the .03, because thats not fair to try and take his mistakes to better myself on a ticket, if that says anything.

But I do plan on trying to get it dropped to a lower ticket (being its the first infraction)

The thing I am mostly mad about, is the fact that a room mate (a trusted member of the room) called the cops. THIS is what really gets me mad. The ticket, and the consequences that follow are of little value to me, as I already knew what I was doing wasnt a legal action (however, I felt safe doing it at the time) ya know?
 
Macdaddy4738 said:
One other point here, the officer wrote down a .03 blown on my ticket, which isnt true (correct value was a .05)
I dont plan on taking the .03, because thats not fair to try and take his mistakes to better myself on a ticket, if that says anything.
But I do plan on trying to get it dropped to a .00. i'd rather be a bitch than a man. my vagina hurts.
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it's late, i'm not being nice right now.
 
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