Discussion in 'Tow Rigs and Trailers' started by ghost, May 24, 2019.
I was 12 when my truck was made
And that explains why you’re going to die towing that load you posted before, unless you go out and buy a medium duty truck. Frickin kids.
I mean....the thought crosses my mind every time I tow it. It'd be some Final Destination type shit!
So the answer is no....dont do it.
That's a great idea. You should go get your learn on.
I would bumper tow three jeeps with a 1972 Chevy Luv all day!
Ooooo...ooooo...oooo...is this where I get to say ‘red herring’. But this is your sandbox, you win. You can tow however you’re comfortable and I’ll look at the weight rating deltas and tow how I’m comfortable.
Y’all don’t stop now, it’s just getting good.
Since this thread has crossed THAT threshold may I make a recommendation?
Honda Ridgeline. It’s even got a trunk so your beer doesn’t fly out when you’re rolling down the mountain with your 2 Jeeps. If you don’t die, you got beer at least.
Shhh...let the elders continue telling us stories about how Y2K caused an explosion in trailer ownership and invented the ability to tow more than 8,000lbs without a medium duty truck.
Cause nobody ever towed cattle or a tractor before those days.
Back in those days they understood speed regulation...today we don’t.
All I’ve got is someone in this thread is a DICK! You ain’t seen sketchy towing until you grew up in Haywood county farming.
For the record, I’m not advocating sketchy towing. I agree the weight the OP proposed would be the upper limit. But I’m also saying most guys wouldn’t hesitate towing the weight of the OP’s load if he would have said it was pre-2003 (to Shawn’s point) 3/4+ ton diesel...as apparent in our tow pig thread. Just so happens the OP’s 09 150 has better tow ratings in a lot of cases than those pre-03 3/4+ ton diesels. That 09 150 has a similar curb weight and wheelbase to a lot of those pre-03 3/4+ ton diesels. So if that 150 is overloaded, those pre-03’s most are comfortable with, certainly are overloaded as well. What’s good for the goose, is good for the gander (am I too young to say that?). I agree there are better/safer tow vehicles now that it’s 2019, but saying folks weren’t towing that weight pre-03 or buying medium duty trucks or aren’t towing with pre-03 trucks still today, just isn’t true.
You're telling me!
reguardless of what you are working with,you still have to work with what god gave you above your shoulders and do it with caution and total commitment. No cell phone bullshit,no smearing peanut button on a slice of bread,no head under the wheel. Old unit ten was a 92f350 crew cab and utility bed truck that hauled a 6200 pound bobcat on a 4 thousand pound trailer with 100 gallon fuel tank plus 5 fat asses and all the crap they could stuff in the bins and bed. Over taxing the 5.8 and 5 speed...hell yea it was.Break the frame...naaaa. Did it stop? Not too good since the trailer brakes hardly ever worked and the rear brakes were out of adjustment. But now if everything was doing as it should,and the driver drove with some sence, she did wonderfully. The world was built using single axle dump trucks with 100 horse motors or less. They hauled equipment with those same open ass cab trucks that used linkages to actuate brakes.
I say screw the naysayers...you won't be the first to do this nor the last. Somebody had to eat the first oyster. Somebody had to be the first to go faster than a horse(discussion when trains first appeared)Somebody had to be the first strapped to a jet engine or rocket. You sir could be the standard by which all other tows are measured by.
I think a lot of it has to do with comfort level. I've towed plenty of things in the past that in an emergency stop I'd be shit out of luck. I also own a 97 f250 and f350 and they both absolutely suck pulling anything or stopping anything more than a mower trailer. Obviously thinking ahead and keeping your distance usually works but not always...
So that being said, can you pull that trailer with an f150? Sure. Could you pull it to Harlan without being that turd slow cunt that also has no chance of stopping on a downhill? No. Are car hauling trailers 500x more prevalent today than 20 years ago, absolutely. Did people in the past just not know any better? Sure.
Can you pull that 10 ton 3 mobile home axle equipment trailer with no brakes and a backhoe behind your 1955 10 speed death trap single axle dump? Sure. Do you have any sort of control of the 15 tons of shit you're rolling down the road? Fuck no
I think I’m going to take my 34’ camper to Harlan in August. The TJ will tow it just fine.
Ben has supplied facts, and Shawn can’t stand that. So the pissing contest continues.
I agree that today’s half ton trucks outperform 3/4-1 ton trucks of the past by far. Now could you do that tow with a modern half ton? Most likely. Would I do it? No.
Think about someone using an 85 F250 or a Chevy of the same year with a TBI 350 and drum brakes out back. Those were THE trucks of their day, and people were still hauling tractors and cattle and stuff then. Again I wouldn’t do it and think it would ask a lot off the truck, but it probably would do it much better than a 1 ton truck from 85-95.
I guess I'll be the turd pulling 30mph on a uphill grade holding everyone up. Might do a little better than that tho. Old unit ten would do 40 going up the mountain to Boone.
How old were you in 1989 when I was working at Carolina Country RV pulling 34ft 5th wheels from the dealership to the Greensboro Coliseum for the RV show in a sketchy ass 1984 C3500 SRW long bed regular cab red and white (had the Cheyenne trim package) with a clapped out 454, with a brake controller that MAY or may NOT work depending on the model trailer I was pulling
I always thought it ironic that they'd let me take 20 trailers out ther but never drive a bus chassis
Btw, no nuns nor buses were harmed with said teenage behind the wheel
I was 30 damn years old in 1999 so y’all can just calm down. We had to walk up hill in 3 feet of snow, both ways, to get to school/work. We used to ride in the back dashboard (spot behind the rear seat up against the back window) and when dad slammed on the brakes, we’d come flying up and smash the front, steel/plastic, dashboard. We just knew how to take a hit better than you young whipper snappers!
I’ve had a few beers while smoking ribs today, and all this “internet cock waggling” as I believe @jeepinmatt so eloquently stated, struck me as funny. I am a 50 year ole ‘effer though, so I got that going for me.
This the long bed pickup saf-t-scissors used in the late 90s to tow his FSB up hanging dog rd and it was the bare minimum. A bronco II you might chance on a limp-dick 2500 but not a full-size bronco on tons. No radio either, didn't need the distractions.
I beg your pardon?
I explained in great detail to Ben why this is a relatively new phenomenon, and what shit was actually like back in the 80s and 90s. All Ben has done is repeatedly misrepresent what I said.
If he thinks it's such a great idea to pull a 14k trailer to Harlan with an F150, I say we should let him try. We'll have to refer him to the Harlan directions thread, though. Im not sure he knows where it is.
I didn't have that kind of scratch.
No AC, windows down, Cypress Hill Black Sunday on repeat because it was stuck in the deck...
All the way to Leadville, CO, and back.
And Moab and back 3 and 4 years later.