You can't make this up.... Pitbull story

Maybe I'm wrong but I can't think of any other breed of dog that requires a support group to convince the public how safe the are.
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Being a positive influence on a breeds reputation and helping the community spay/neuter/educate is nothing new.

In raleigh:
German Shepard Resuce
NC rotties
The positive pit bull

Dobermans have many groups fighting for the education about their breed.

The media steers minds. If you've ever watched CNN vs Fox News should be well aware of this. If not then your ignorance is your own bliss.

PS I bet the trout groups and tree huggers have alot to say about silly people riding around in the woods in lifted vehicles destroying precious trout grounds. Sound familiar?
 
But it is kind of Ironic the women who was killed in the article that started this thread was a pit bull advocate. I'm sure she spent a lot of time doing the same things you other pit bull owners are doing and blaming the owners. I just wonder if while the Pit was killing her and her baby if she kept telling it I was a good owner I was a good owner I treated you right. I also wonder how the husband/father feels about pits now? I wonder if he is willing to get rid of his friendly well raised Pit now.
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Obviously something went wrong but the story is unclear. It says it was her dog but could have been a foster, an untested stray, etc. Just b/c she was an "advocate" does not mean she was intelligent or handled the situation correctly. There is a pit bull group in NC that I would love to see burned to the ground b/c they harbor dangerous dogs that could get somebody hurt. There's people who drunk wheel and get their passengers killed, there's race car drivers that drive 130mph on city streets, and gun owners who put one in their own head by accident.

Prime example: How many people voted for obama? Do you think they were qualified to make damning decisions such as they did?

The hell with pit bulls. I want a ban on liberals
 
All I am saying is that I'm tired of Pit bull owners trying to convince the world that there dog breed is the same as all others. When they should just accept there dogs for what they are and enjoy them scratch there heads and throw the damn ball already !
 
All I am saying is that I'm tired of Pit bull owners trying to convince the world that there dog breed is the same as all others. When they should just accept there dogs for what they are and enjoy them scratch there heads and throw the damn ball already !
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I'll admit all day that my dogs can be trained and abused to be far worse dogs than a min pin. It takes a good owner to have a good pit bull as comes with any responsibility. I just never understand why all hell is raised over pits while crackheads can breed 15 kids that will prob rob/kill and we pay for it.
 
Petey the Pit (mix) lives in our home with 2 Pekignese, my wife and kids. He was rescued from death's door when a :poop:head down the street moved out and left him in the basement to starve to death. After 3 IV's, hook worm treatments, a week at the vets, he survived. He is a great dog who loves to play with all the kids and other dogs. He knows he was saved/rescued and it shows. With that being said, I dont kid myself, Petey could do big damage to someone if he wanted to. I have raised him to be a member of the family and to listen. but thats no guarantee he wont change one day.
My sister was almost killed by a Collie/Shepard mix when she was 4. We had played around that dog for years. It went for her throat but she threw her arm up. she had 150 stitches and a crushed arm. Almost bled completely out before we got her to the hospital. Turned out the dog had a brain tumor and just went crazy. He was big enough to do some serious damage.
With that said, I have seen and respect the crazy, pissed off, fighting side of Pitts and Plott hounds that chase bear and wild hogs down. Being from the country, I dont have a Walt Disney view of animals. Petey could be dangerous if he got into a rage. He is protective of his family and I wouldnt want him to really "loose it" on someone, unless they were coming in through a window. Fact is, that a dog that size with that type of strength can be put into a bad situation and it will live up to it's breeding. There are way too many morons and wanna' be thugs out there with pits. The dogs arent the problem, but they will suffer for thier owners stupidity.
 

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wrangler00 said:
heres my pit he'll eat your face off i know some of yall are stuck in your ways and wont listen but i think aggressive is a bad word to explain the breed of the dog protective is better what more could you want that a animal that loves the people he knows no matter what and tells the people who he dont know to back off i love my dog and anyone who dont like it can kiss my butt
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nice brindle!
 
jds97Wrangler said:
It's time to let this thread die because my opinion isn't going to change the Pit owner’s minds and the pit owners aren't going to change my mind.
But it is kind of Ironic the women who was killed in the article that started this thread was a pit bull advocate. I'm sure she spent a lot of time doing the same things you other pit bull owners are doing and blaming the owners. I just wonder if while the Pit was killing her and her baby if she kept telling it I was a good owner I was a good owner I treated you right. I also wonder how the husband/father feels about pits now? I wonder if he is willing to get rid of his friendly well raised Pit now.
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I hate to say it...but you my friend have got to be mentally retarted. YOU HAVE NO FIRST HAND EXPERIENCE!!!! YOU ARE GOING BY THE MEDIA AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TOLD YOU! I am not saying that all pits are nice and playful...I am simply saying don't judge every pit based on what you hear. Like I said before...billions of dollars were spent on the research of global warming...and it was all a lie...millions of people believed in it because they read it and it must have been true.... I am telling you that NONE of my pits have ever snapped at me or anyone around them...I tell people who seem a little timid around them...to not be scared and just play with the dogs like you would any other dog...this results in the person laughing and being licked.
Thank you to all the other pit bull lovers on here that believe in this breed and are not kicking them to the curb like alot of people are....if you choose not to own a pit..that is your choice, just as I would not own anything OTHER than a pit..its my choice
 
My question for the Pit advocates is, do you guys not agree that Pits have a predisposition to being more aggressive/protective/whatever word makes you feel better? Most folks buy dogs based on general personalities, sure there are bad apples for all breeds, but on the whole, you know what kind personality you're getting with a breed. I'll buy the nature/nurture defense to an extent, because I know pits are a status symbol in some demographics, and with the upbringing those pits have, it exposes their aggressiveness...so the data can be skewed because there probably are more bad owners of pits...which result in bad dogs. However, I don't believe the victim in the original post, or most of the stories that make the local news are all bad owners.
 
^^not all of us buy dogs, there are a great many of us that save these dogs from cruel deaths and abandonment to give them a second chance at life. I saved a pit that was thrown from a moving car....hundreds of dollars and months later i fostered him out to a guy driving a semi across the country, the dog is his road buddy and alarm system for his peterbuilt. I recently saved another from certain death from a pound in cabarrus county( thru a rescue group named justice for bella). He was to be put down the day after we went to pick him up. My feist is meaner than he is.
 
My question for the Pit advocates is, do you guys not agree that Pits have a predisposition to being more aggressive/protective/whatever word makes you feel better? Most folks buy dogs based on general personalities, sure there are bad apples for all breeds, but on the whole, you know what kind personality you're getting with a breed. I'll buy the nature/nurture defense to an extent, because I know pits are a status symbol in some demographics, and with the upbringing those pits have, it exposes their aggressiveness...so the data can be skewed because there probably are more bad owners of pits...which result in bad dogs. However, I don't believe the victim in the original post, or most of the stories that make the local news are all bad owners.
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depends on what kind of dog it is. I've had very gamey dogs that had a high prey drive. They would eat a squirl or cat if they got the chance. My dogs are not aggressive at all except for some carried away rough housing with each other. I have had dogs that were extremely protective but that can be with any dog also. Pits are extremely loyal and that attribute can be brought to a dangerous level by irresponsible owners.
^^not all of us buy dogs, there are a great many of us that save these dogs from cruel deaths and abandonment to give them a second chance at life. I saved a pit that was thrown from a moving car...
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ding! I adopted one 5 year old that was due to be gassed, 1 puppy pulled from a shelter, and one foster fail that was at wake county shelter. I used to "buy" dogs until I realized theres a million waiting for a family in shelters.
 
raleighjeepguy said:
depends on what kind of dog it is. I've had very gamey dogs that had a high prey drive. They would eat a squirl or cat if they got the chance. My dogs are not aggressive at all except for some carried away rough housing with each other. I have had dogs that were extremely protective but that can be with any dog also. Pits are extremely loyal and that attribute can be brought to a dangerous level by irresponsible owners.
ding! I adopted one 5 year old that was due to be gassed, 1 puppy pulled from a shelter, and one foster fail that was at wake county shelter. I used to "buy" dogs until I realized theres a million waiting for a family in shelters.
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I love hearing this because it is so true. I applaud you two for saving a dog.

The last thing I will say on the matter is this: In the pit world, there are bloodlines that are different from most. Most of your "aggressive" pits are mixed or there are just not of royal blood. Most of the pits that Vick faught were bred to be just that... They were not of a good bloodline and were basically just lab dogs for experimentation. Just as there are certain bloodlines of german shepards that can go for upwards to 20k, (don't believe me? pick up an issue of Dupont Registry :) ) there are certain bloodlines of pits that can range up to 10k. The bloodlines such as Remyline are not your average pit, they are physically different and are "more" domesticated and for that very reason. Most serious pit owners work to breed this "naturally aggressive" trait out of their dogs, which I do as well.
 
Cherokeekid88 said:
I love hearing this because it is so true. I applaud you two for saving a dog..
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But using the argument that most have been using about crappy owners, these dogs that have been saved should have born and bred killers.

Cherokeekid88 said:
The last thing I will say on the matter is this: In the pit world, there are bloodlines that are different from most. Most of your "aggressive" pits are mixed or there are just not of royal blood. Most of the pits that Vick faught were bred to be just that... They were not of a good bloodline and were basically just lab dogs for experimentation. Just as there are certain bloodlines of german shepards that can go for upwards to 20k, (don't believe me? pick up an issue of Dupont Registry :) ) there are certain bloodlines of pits that can range up to 10k. The bloodlines such as Remyline are not your average pit, they are physically different and are "more" domesticated and for that very reason. Most serious pit owners work to breed this "naturally aggressive" trait out of their dogs, which I do as well.
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I won't argue with you there...blood lines are key, but how many 10k Pit Bulls do you know of in your neighborhood, city, region even???


Honestly...I don't have a dog (pardon the pun) in this fight, I'm more or less just curious. I've been around pits, and trained them, but I still don't care for them. But I also stay away from herding dogs for the same reason...they're nippers and I flat out won't tolerate a dog that has a predisposition to biting.
 
But using the argument that most have been using about crappy owners, these dogs that have been saved should have born and bred killers.
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we do full temperment testing for weeks before any dogs are adopted out put through a ringer of tests with people, food, toys, etc. I am always skeptical of older dogs and test them vigorously before they leave my house. For the most part I avoid pulling any dog from the shelter that even resembles aggressive.

Sadly most of the time you will know when an older dog comes into the shelter what their purpose was unless they are pups.
 
As much as I love Petey...
I would have to let him go for ten grand! Or 2 five thousand dollar beagles.
 
My only distaste for the pitbull breed comes from listening to their owners say the exact same thing.... every time someone is killed by one.... for the last umpteen years...

  • "Only bad pits come from bad owners. A good owner's pit would NEVER attack someone."
  • "My pit is the sweetest dog in the world. Literally. No other dog breed on this planet is sweeter than my pitbull."
  • "The only death my pitbull could cause would be by licking to death."
  • "It's all the medias fault. Poodles bite more people than pits, how come people aren't scared of poodles? It's just not fare."

More people are bit by catfish than Great White sharks, yet I am still more comfortable in Lake Norman than in the waters off the coast of South Africa.


Unlike like Vick, I have no dog in the fight. However, here is a little fun fact:

We had so many pitbull attacks leading to deaths in the county I lived in a law was passed to make it illegal to own one. The cops had a right to confiscate and destroy anyone's pit that refused to move out of the city limits or get rid of their dog. This was about 5 years ago in the 17th largest city/market in the country.

In a strange coincidence, Taco Bell sales dropped 34% in that same county.
 
fawk this again?!?!

The only thing I want to add, dogs of any breed make horrible security devices. Anyone who comes onto your property to cause you harm will not be unarmed. They will most likely be willing to hurt humans, as we have established they are there to do you harm, you can assure yourself they will care less about a dog than they do about you.

So lets recap.
People who mean harm will be armed.
People who do not mean harm may or may not be armed but the chance or being armed is drastically lower statistically.
If the dog attacks people who mean harm the dog will most likely be dead.
If the dog attacks people who do not mean harm the dog will most likely hurt the victim.

Great logic there.
 
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