marty79
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Your exactly right sir and I totally agree. It's an employers call to do as they will with their business, pay whomever they want what they want because it's their show. Yes I completely am aware of that, not arguing at all. I just stated without naming anyone that, in general, I don't agree with this way of business/relationship for anyone who runs a business. That doesn't mean anything though because like YOU stated, they are entitled to that and so am I to my requests and thoughts.
So, my perspective in business is this: always has been, always will be and nobody will change that!!
I lets say am self employed running my own business...just me ...one man team...all alone.
ok, my labor rate is $100 per hour (for sake of argument)
I do good, get known, get clients blah blah blah I grow and now I'm too busy to take in more work.
So, now I (employer) have 2 options: Stay at my current level turning away new work and maintain the path of business and finances I am making or Option 2: look into hiring help to grow the business
When I (or any Employer) hires someone(s), I am inviting that person into my business to represent my business, represent me (the owner), represent my work or product, produce my work or product, take care of my work/product, and do all this to the best of their sincere ability as my employee. This is what I and any "employer" wishes to do when looking/wanting to grow their business. It's for growth of their product or service, growth in finances and with hopes to maintain the growth to provide long term residual growing and providing good product/service while providing constant growing income for such business owner.
This is where I will never understand the worlds perspective on this part:
The Problem I see: Employers don't realize they aren't just "hiring"...they are inviting that person or persons to be a part of their team, part of their business and part of their work. The "employee" is doing the work for the business to grow, therefor the "employee" should be well paid from the hourly rate because they (employee) is doing the new work load which brings the business owner that much more income yet the "employee" is doing most of the work that they are to do but whose getting paid...a lot? not the guy doing the work...that's the problem. I don't thing it should be 50/50 by no means but c'mon, should an employer really take 75%/80% of that "employee's" hourly charge rate and the "employee" only keep %20 even though he/she is doing the actual work...how's that fair or right.
This is where everyone says "well, the business owner came up with the business/product/service!, so they have the right to charge/pay according to how they see fit"
That's bs: Doesn't matter that I or "employer" designed it or made it. Fact is when you hire people, that employer is "relying on the Employee" to grow their business ....PERIOD. Without "employees" NO BUSINESS would ever grow but remain at the level they were when they had all they could handle. That's why really smart business people and even books on business tells you "employees make your business"...hello duh common sense.
Take any business out there that has employees, any one of them: Tomorrow NOBODY shows up..business makes $0 dollars that day. If Owner could handle that stress and kicks it into high gear could salvage and produce what he/she could to keep it afloat downsizing to what they were when they first started and could handle on their own. Employees is the reason why ALL business thrive, become big, popular, wealthy, sustaining and mass producing products/services. Take away the employees and that said business becomes an empty building full of echoes.
This is why business owners get rich and richer while the employees are the ones making them rich.
Still don't believe me, fine here's the math:
Employer charges $100 per hour: Pays employee 1 - $20 per hour ($80 p/h floating?)
Pays employee 2 - $20 per hour ($80 p/h floating?)
employee 3 - $20 per hour ($80 p/h floating?)
Floating $240 PER HOUR ....whose getting that money, the Employer!!!!
So the Employer is making $240 PER HOUR for every hour his 3 employees work,
So that's almost $2000 a day, $9600 a week, $38000 a month, $460000 a year WOW THIS IS AFTER EMPLOYEES ARE PAID...yeah whose getting rich, not the employees.
while they doing all the work go home with lousy $20 p/h and then to make it even better, those Employers are the same ones that love to always say, "I ain't making a whole lot more than you guys at the end of the day." I have worked for couple small business owners who I could say legitimately didn't make a whole lot but that was because they didn't have a clue of how to run a business and were wasting money all over the place. Not all people are made to "run" a business, no problem with that, it's too bad those that can't won't admit it and run themselves into the ground.
And spare me the bs on "shop bills and fees"??!!! Serioulsy, a business the size of the example above (3 employees) is not spending that much money to where he/she couldn't afford to pay those employees better wages considering THEY are the ones making that business all the money and that Owner doesn't have to do any work. Even at lets say $150K a year to keep the small business running, numbers still don't add up. That employer makes a six figure income while those 3 employees are barely getting off food stamps.
So there you have it, my business perspective. It's MY opinion, My views, my thoughts. YOU DON"T HAVE To like it, or agree or disagree. BUT please keep the discussion to a grown up manner and talk sensibly if you're gonna talk.
