Burrellsjeep Project: Eugene

burrellsjeep

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You could do that, but cutting the old brackets off/cleaning up an axle then welding new ones on sucks as it is...no need in doing it twice. And what I was getting at is there are a couple HP44/ ford 9" sets for sale currently. You certainly save money in the long run replacing less balljoints/unit bearings/etc. as well as have much stronger axles...

Don't get me wrong, Your correct

I just don't have the lump of cash it takes to do a full front swap right now, I needed to get the D30 wheelable.

How much do you think total for a "better" front axle and keep the rear 8.8. with 5 on 4.5, could do a spacer if needed.
 

burrellsjeep

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Upper Link

I am in the process of getting the upper link layed out.

Should I keep the upper link parallel with lowers (Side To Side) or should I have some angle in it, I know the axle end of the link will need to have a angle in it to fit the mount properly. Should I try to get more or less angle. Just not sure whats best.
 

braxton357

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should try and keep it parallel. The track bar does all of the lateral locating, if you try triangulating the links and using a panhard...shit will bind.
 

burrellsjeep

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should try and keep it parallel. The track bar does all of the lateral locating, if you try triangulating the links and using a panhard...shit will bind.

Thats my take on it also, I am planing on getting as close to parallel as I can.

You got me thinking about the front axle, Thanks i think

What do you think about a HP30 out an Cherokee, maybe one day with 37s?
 

burrellsjeep

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Well on the upper link I going to keep it parallel with the lowers.

Still waiting on my Link Brackets, Dan said he is having troubles getting them.

I am leaving for the beach on Saturday, So It will be Memorial Day Weekend before I can get any more done, Hopefully my brackets will be here by then.

Hopefully I will be at the 4x4cross on Saturday the 23rd watching some locals race.
 

mileshigh

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Wow mike its come along way since i took a ride in that tj, The good news is i got my tetanus shot so i can start working on the CJ!
 

burrellsjeep

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Frame Link Mounts

Well got my brackets, and man there beefy

3/8 thick material
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Thanks Dan, @ Ruff Stuff

Clamped it in place
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Anyone see any issues, The hang a little low, thats my concern.

I can go in front of the skid or I can notch the skid, I have enough link material. Not sure it would make that big of a difference. looking at a 34 inch link compared to a 37 inch.

The brackets will handle getting beat on, Just hate to have some thing getting hung up.

Has anyone ever notched lower side of the frame and recessed mount?

Just an Idea.
 

92yotaman

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thought about it, the brackets for my chevy springs on my yota hang low like that. Notching the frame would be pretty easy, and the new mount could fill the hole with no extra metal
 

burrellsjeep

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thought about it, the brackets for my chevy springs on my yota hang low like that. Notching the frame would be pretty easy, and the new mount could fill the hole with no extra metal

Thats what I was thinking, with the thickness of these it should hold up well.

Would Moving them up a few inches make that big a of difference.
 

burrellsjeep

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The more I am under the jeep looking at clearances, I guess I am going to get a 2 inch Body Lift.

I know some are better than others, Anyone got a good BL suggestion?

This would allow me to run the brackets a little higher, I am looking at building a skid with front and rear LCA mounts built in, Kinda like a RE skid. I will have the middle be removable to allow access.
 

braxton357

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The more I am under the jeep looking at clearances, I guess I am going to get a 2 inch Body Lift.
I know some are better than others, Anyone got a good BL suggestion?
This would allow me to run the brackets a little higher, I am looking at building a skid with front and rear LCA mounts built in, Kinda like a RE skid. I will have the middle be removable to allow access.


It never ends. That jeep will be on jackstands for another 6 months. :flipoff2:

The "might as wells" will get you every time.
I like the idea of the link mount structure/skid though.
 

burrellsjeep

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i dont really see that you need so much separation that u need a body lift just get it to the top of the rail one little cheat is to shorten the upper it will have the same effect as raising the mount.


I wanting to raise the skid plate also to get some more clearance, If I do that the the mounts will be tight, So the Body lift would help.
 

burrellsjeep

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It never ends. That jeep will be on jackstands for another 6 months. :flipoff2:
The "might as wells" will get you every time.
I like the idea of the link mount structure/skid though.

Actually its wheelable now, I wheeled a couple weekends ago, I just don't have it the way I want it.

But your right, It never seems to end, I guess thats why I like it.

Just know that I will be racing against you next year it will be hard to live with getting beat by a 4 banger :flipoff2:
 

burrellsjeep

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I am looking at mounting the frame mounts for the lower links to a skid/cross member i going to build. I am looking for so input on which is better.

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I am on the fence with which is better looking for some opinions.

Skid A would be built to hang down like an RE skid.

Skid B would be a flat skid with the mounts on the bottom of the skid, Which would give more clearance in the center, but the mounts might be rock hangers.

I hope you can understand my mspaint.
 

burrellsjeep

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Well I starting on my Body Lift. I know, I know, A body lift, but I need to the extra room to clear my upper mounts and tuck the skid up higher.

After looking at BLs i came to the conclusion that there way over priced. :eek:

After searching and a little help from "TJVigilante" I decided to do a puck lift.

Here is what I am starting with.

11 - Hockey Puck - Hockey Giant $0.99 each
6 - 1/2 inch bolts 4 1/2 inch long w/ Washers - Course Grade 5
5 - 7/16 inch bolts 4 inches long w/ Washers - Course Grade 5

I get my hardware at the Industrial supply house, they sale to the public at the counter and the 1/2 bolts at ACE are $1.20 and At the supply house there $0.25. The washers were like $0.02 each.

I have about $36 in every thing. That includes shipping on the pucks.

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I drilled holes in the center of the pucks.

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Took like 5 mins to do.

I have no need for the linkage drop bracket, due to the fact I raising up my skid, I am also putting a 1 inch MML on. I have sourced some solid 1 inch plate to make some spacers, As soon as it gets cut I will work on it. I already have bomb proof mounts.

Now I got to start pulling the old bolts out and get to putting it on. Maybe I will get this done by the end of the weekend, Wifes out and I have the boys so, not right now.
 

burrellsjeep

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The hockey puck lift is all but done. I broke one bolt off in the mount, But its soaking in some blaster so I believe it will come out. But besides that I just need to do a finale tightn.

I really like the way it turned out, Its hard to believe how much room just an inch of BL will give you. I should be able to clear my mounts just fine.

Some pics
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Now I just need to get my MML lift on, I am using some 1 inch flat stock and making it my self.

And then get the shifter back working until I get the skid where its going to sit.

Then maybe I can start linking the front.

Its always something. Oh course its a jeep.
 

burrellsjeep

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Well I am scraping the skid plate/link mount design. I am going to mount the links in front of the skid, this will allow for a much cleaner design, It will also allow me to keep wheeling and not have the jeep down for a long period of time.

I am having MudPro (local shop) cut me out and bend up some 1/4 inch material to mount my lower link mounts to, I just don't have enough room on the bottom of the frame rail to get to the mount where it needs to be.

The brackets Scott at Mudpro is doing are pretty much L brackets that wrap around the frame rails. I am going to bolt the brackets to the frame, which will allow me to build them off the rig and bolt them on. I going to sleeve the rail with some 1 inch tube, then use a two 3/4 grade 8 bolts to mount them.

He is also bending me up a upper link mount for the frame. I plan to have 3 - 4 positions to mount the upper link.

These mounts will be close to the poly 3 link mounts. Kinda where I got the idea.

He should have them done tomorrow and I will post pictures as soon as I get them in hand.
 

burrellsjeep

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Well I got my material from Mud Pro today.

What a great guy to deal with. Scott did a great job. Talking with him is like talking to one of your wheeling buddys. Hes been wheeling all his life and under stands what your talking about, and I couldn't be more happy.

Here is what I sent him (I know its in paint but thats all I got)
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And heres what he sent me.

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Mocked Together

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With the link hanger on the bottom to get an Idea of how I going to use them.

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burrellsjeep

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I had him bend me up an upper link bracket while he was at it.

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Turn out just like I wanted it.

Here is how I plan on using it, Maybe

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He also cut me out some gussets

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can't wait to get started on these,

Again thanks to Mud Pro for the great work, you guys should call him with your metal needs.

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Mudpro Metalworks
171 Loudonya Lane
Hickory, NC 28601

(828)612-1199

mudprometalworks@yahoo.com
 
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