Cheapo Tow Rig project

Discussion in 'Tow Rigs and Trailers' started by 77GreenMachine, Mar 2, 2018.

  1. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    Reflective tape and a decal I had made really set it off. It looks brand new now from 15’ away.
    5E8B855F-79F0-4FF1-8B7E-885310DA7C67.jpeg
     
    Last edited: Jun 28, 2020
  2. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt @ Rev Limit Fab

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Location:
    Winston-Salem
    I see you were unable to convince the wife that it should say "stupid hobby" however I'm much more in favor of freedom :usa:
     
  3. BigClay

    BigClay Knower of useless ZJ things

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2008
    Location:
    Winston-Salem
    I was hoping for another “Do It For Dale” sticker
     
  4. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Location:
    Stanley, NC
    We discussed "Stupid Hobby" at length Saturday morning and I thought it would be a winner. Now I'm sad. :(
     
    drkelly, BigClay, NCJeeplover and 3 others like this.
  5. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    So today was a fun day. I came home early and made sure to do this in the glaring sun while it was super hot.
    I got some tiny dollies and lowered the camper down into the back of the trailer.

    My wife helped me, and we only debated getting divorced twice. Getting her to help me with things like this are always a good time. After some yelling and adjustments, some bricks, and several bottles of water, we got it lowered.
    A07FF13E-1183-4477-B0EE-55BB7B24D535.jpeg 81967832-8796-47E5-9AC9-048AA5392083.jpeg 9D60911B-FEA5-44F4-944C-0818203F028C.jpeg

    After I got it lowered I disconnected the truck and used the winch in the XJ to begin pulled it forward.

    5E5D3F12-C5EC-436B-8F26-FC77F793AB44.jpeg

    The dollies were small so I staggered them with the front on the passenger side and the rear on the Driver. This make it a little tippy but I was easily able to pushed in the bunk and manipulate it.

    C7371645-2DD3-4CAF-B723-46B9C1BE804F.jpeg

    There was a point where it got pretty sketchy. The dolly did not want to go over the metal slat, so I had to gently let go and let my corner rest and use the floor jack to help it get over it.

    749E4485-25D5-446E-A3C4-FE11BE7068B3.jpeg

    We were taking our time and trying to keep it centered as we got closer.

    The wife worked the winch. First time for me telling someone to “bump it” and it not mean “give it everything you got”

    92035D9A-5FE1-445E-8D87-F0D3F37D4580.jpeg C36455FA-D141-42B9-B1F8-F1FE5578E003.jpeg D8A15BE8-8378-4120-B042-54D597C93AEE.jpeg

    Then we got it past the fenders and I put the jacks back on for the last little bit.

    B23C4B1C-B846-4F6F-9F37-2E77441EDB25.jpeg 42A0B2B3-D3DF-48F8-8B9D-3137F891D64C.jpeg
    A28C9BE1-1DAC-49ED-9169-0D094D7E55EB.jpeg

    I had to cut the side things just a bit to clear the front of the camper and the jacks.

    3FFDB6A8-9062-47D2-8072-C4ECD735A720.jpeg
    Then I loaded the XJ for some test fitmant and a tow test.
    8B1B35A3-5510-4BD5-AB4E-B58CFF60E406.jpeg EEE4D625-14A5-4C9A-9C0C-5AC424B4A269.jpeg
     
    Jason W., BigSouth, cufor98 and 10 others like this.
  6. CasterTroy

    CasterTroy Motarded

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2005
    Location:
    Wallburg
    You know....you coulda called a brutha
     
    cufor98, NickMaul, jeepinmatt and 5 others like this.
  7. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    The dove tail drug going out of my gravel, out of my driveway, and out of my road, along with a few other places.

    I have some rollers to weld onto the rear which I will do next week. The trailer also isn’t sitting level so I will drill another hole to lower the coupler a little.

    As for the truck, I made about 30 mile test tow up and down the highway and thru town. It towed amazing. I honestly feel like it pulls better than it did with the Jeep on the tag trailer and the camper in the bed.
    I can feel the extra weight make me get moving slower, but I swear once I’m going it’s like it goes better than before. I believe it has less wind drag like this, since the truck breaks the wind and then it goes up over the camper. That’s my theory at least.

    Trans stayed a touch under 200*, which worries me a bit cause it was already cooled off to 85* outside so it could easily get hotter when it was 95* and have more traffic. I already have a bigger auxiliary trans cooler, just gotta figure out how to make it fit and hook my lines to it. Gonna look into it more tomorrow.
     
    drkelly likes this.
  8. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    I also realized I need to adjust the trailer brakes. They were grabbing hard when I bought it but now that it’s loaded they ain’t helping me much.

    Also, I have the front axle driver side bearing getting warmer. It’s noticeably warmer than the others and I can only keep my hand on it about 5-6 seconds. I’m not sure if that brake is doing more work than the others or what. I just greased it Saturday and it felt fine, and I’m certain the spindle nut isn’t too tight, cause it spins freely with tiniest amount of play. The next notch on the spindle nut is too tight.
     
  9. Croatan_Kid

    Croatan_Kid How's your hammer hangin'?

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2007
    Location:
    New Bern
    Yep. Make the trailer level when loaded. Other than that, not much you can do.

    The trans being 100* over ambient is alright, but not toooo much more than that.

    I try to tell everyone that's never had a gooseneck how much better they are, but it takes hauling/owning your first one to really get it...
     
    skyhighZJ and Chris_Keziah like this.
  10. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    DUDE! The difference is crazy. I always knew that, but now I KNOW KNOW!
    It rides so good. Like my truck beats me to death empty and I just deal with it cause it’s a truck. It’s always felt better loaded. But now with this load it feels way better. The way the GN transfers energy to the truck is nothing like a tag along.
     
    shawn likes this.
  11. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    Drop the coupler some and see how much that helps the tail, but you might consider lifting the trailer some, too. 2-3" of extra height at the axles will help you get into all kinds of places.
     
  12. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Location:
    Stanley, NC
    I'd cut the dovetail off or make it straight. Its hurting more than its helping.
     
    NCJeeplover and Jody Treadway like this.
  13. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    Agreed.

    Since we're already off topic anyway, I've been thinking about adding a dovetail to my deck over. That, and a torque tube. It's probably more work than it's worth, though.
     
  14. jeepinmatt

    jeepinmatt Still Fat

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2005
    Location:
    Stanley, NC
    I might know where you can get a good deal on the materials :lol:
     
  15. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    The thought has crossed my mind and very well may happen.
     
  16. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt @ Rev Limit Fab

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Location:
    Winston-Salem
    Depending on how Ed added that dove one I don't think it'll be terribly hard to flatten out. Don't think I'd cut it off just to have room for a 4 wheeler or something for the youngins.
     
    77GreenMachine likes this.
  17. CasterTroy

    CasterTroy Motarded

    Joined:
    Mar 21, 2005
    Location:
    Wallburg
    Wouldn't it be a hellova lot easier to

     
    StretchASU, rcalexander105 and ncsutj like this.
  18. Chris_Keziah

    Chris_Keziah Joe Dirt @ Rev Limit Fab

    Joined:
    Dec 1, 2010
    Location:
    Winston-Salem
    Wait you're agreeing with Shawn? Are you sick or something?

    Imo not really no, if it were an enclosed with torsion axles yeah but it's sprung under leafs.
     
    CasterTroy likes this.
  19. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    I'm talking about cutting the spring brackets off and welding a piece of tube to the bottom of the frame. If it's anything like a lot of these other trailers, there's a weak spot in the frame there anyway. It might be worth considering shifting the axles aft 6-12" at the same time to get some more pin weight. It should only take about a half day to do.
     
  20. 77GreenMachine

    77GreenMachine Phillip Talton

    Joined:
    Mar 30, 2010
    Location:
    Trinity, NC
    So as far as the coupler, it’s already on it’s lowest setting, and I don’t have a great deal of room left to drill another hole. I meant to take a pic before I left for work but forgot. This is the best I have.
    3A87F435-208C-4044-B295-191933EE0380.png


    I would almost consider flattening out the dove like Chris mentioned.

    Not sure what I’ll do with it yet. I’d really like to get the trailer level. I don’t care if it drags a little here and there and if I put the rollers on it won’t be a big deal but it scrapes my drive way pretty good and I don’t like that. I’m starting to regret buying this trailer, but I can certainly get my money back out of it and go get what I want.
     
    CasterTroy likes this.
  21. k5-1402

    k5-1402 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2005
    Location:
    Burlington
    You just have to get your truck suspension right then it will work! Joking.
    carolina squat.jpg
     
  22. shawn

    shawn running dog lackey of the oppressor class Administrator

    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2005
    Location:
    Raleigh, NC
    Bogie wheels are fine, but they don't help if you high center the trailer. They also don't slide side to side very well. You want to be able to hop a curb or roll the trailer tires up on something without worrying that it's going to get hung on the frame when it comes down on the other side.

    How much weight is on the pin? Have you tried pulling the Jeep up tight to the camper and seeing if it levels out at all?
     
  23. NCJeeplover

    NCJeeplover Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 25, 2009
    Location:
    Claremont, NC
    I did a spring over on my old 18' car hauler back in the day. Just welded new perches and sprung it over. Worked well and took about 2.5 hours.
     
    shawn likes this.
  24. StretchASU

    StretchASU Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2006
    Location:
    Creedmoor, NC
    +1 for the trailer lift kit. A few feet of 2x2 or 2x3 tube and a few hours of time, done.
     
    77GreenMachine likes this.
  25. paradisePWoffrd

    paradisePWoffrd Recovering Project Junkie

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2005
    Location:
    Newton, NC
    x2. Id prefer to leave the dove, for loading other vehicles/items. As Shawn mentioned, I would take a long piece of tubing, that is the length of the spring mounts. Weld new mounts to it, and weld it under the existing frame.
     

Share This Page