RHSCTJ i saw those pics just now, damn that sucks poor guys man but i guess all in all we can all agree thats part of the sport, right? i'll admit some of those pics of where they broke really surprised me cause well, just does but i guess every jeep is different and decides when to go. maybe i will take it more easy but good thing i've got the 8.25 on the 98xj instead of the 35 and u know i admit, i do notice a little difference in the 8.25 as far as traction goes, seems to just perform a bit better before the 38s so we'll see.